Confirmed with Link: It's Started! (Management firings)

[Flying Dego]

SOOO if FSG & New GM shitcans them that makes the SC Champs again right, Because it is not thee players fault

Listen Bubba. I don't know what they'll do under a new coach. But I sure as hell know what they've been doing under the current one.

I don't live in my fears as another famous coach says.

 

[metalan2]

So the penguins finished 13th overall?

 

[Josey Wales]

People saying the job is undesirable are just being wieners. It absolutely isn't - I think it's clear the job description is to get back to a process. Hextall got fired ultimately not because the team missed the playoffs but because they missed the playoffs in large part because he had no idea WTF he was doing and why. A good process is a good process whether you're in a contention window, rebuilding or on the bubble.

On Sullivan, pretty sure he stays unless the new hire is really unimpressed with him, but he will be on a short leash if the team is inexplicably doing the same stuff they did this year and if he's as uncreative and soft again.

SOOOO having a core that is flying down the darkside of the mountain, Huge ?? in goal, On Defense, bottom 6 Forwards & might not be able to have the HC & Staff you want

Listen Bubba. I don't know what they'll do under a new coach. But I sure as hell know what they've been doing under the current one.

I don't live in my fears as another famous coach says.

Mike Johnson! Beavis

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

See ya in 2027 lol

Totally fine for me man, I've been a fan for a long long time but you get what you give. I don't agree with the shit on ICE... I got other teams.

1/2 Season of the Kraken, 20 games of the Mariners.

I haven't watched the Steelers and will not until Tomlin is gone and believe me... it's pretty easy to not watch a shitty uninspiring product. Too much good content to spend my time with.

A few others on here will be much better if they did that too.

Like I said at the beginning of the year, I told you they wouldn't make the Playoffs. Sullivan is not a great coach.

 

[Flying Dego]

SOOOO having a core that is flying down the darkside of the mountain, Huge ?? in goal, On Defense, bottom 6 Forwards & might not be able to have the HC & Staff you want


Mike Johnson! Beavis

O! You're right. We should be scared of our shadow and not take any risk to improve a situation we know is toxic.

What has Sullivan done in the past 5 years to deserve fans loyalty. Coaching is not for the faint of heart. Getting attached to them is a big no no as well.

 

[Turin]

SOOOO having a core that is flying down the darkside of the mountain, Huge ?? in goal, On Defense, bottom 6 Forwards & might not be able to have the HC & Staff you want


Mike Johnson! Beavis

Let's use Dubas as an example. If FSG REALLY wants Dubas, and Dubas for some reason wants to leave Toronto, but Dubas says he wants his own coach - do you think they keep Sullivan? I don't. The new GM is gonna have a lot of autonomy. That the core is old barely matters because they are relatively cheap. There are only 32 GM jobs and not that many franchises as stable or with the history of the Penguins.

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

O! You're right. We should be scared of our shadow and not take any risk to improve a situation we know is toxic.

What has Sullivan done in the past 5 years to deserve fans loyalty. Coaching is not for the faint of heart. Getting attached to them is a big no no as well.

Man if we change the coach... we may get blown out in the Playoffs or maybe not even make them?

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Not how I heard that. They said the coach and his staff are great, not that they're the right fit for this team. The ownership group are not a bunch of idiots, they know Sullivan's playoff losing streak predates GMRH.

That being said, we better hope we get a GM that isn't afraid of making some waves.

I think this will be the direction with a GM. Despite the core ageing they are still really skilled can play. Obviously the idea is to compete and win and RH didn't make it happen, especially if your big move was Granlund, that was just a desperation "I didn't get anything I attempted out there" might be RH biggest mistake he made. He had the green light and lost.

If they want to compete and be winners (the way I see mgmt. wants) moves will be made, I dont see it any other way and expect some big splashes. I dont know what that looks like but its going to happen. I just dont know how long Sid and Geno can still be healthy and be high level.

 

[Josey Wales]

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Also, it was FSG that wanted Malkin and Letang back. So, there’s that. SOOOOO Gerbil Boy why did you knot report that back last offseason ! Such a f***ing Drama Queen

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Laviollete was let go…Flyers.

Woiuldn’t be surprised if Sully ended up there .

*edit*
I’m an idiot…I meant Caps not Flyers :/.

 

[Josey Wales]

Man if we change the coach... we may get blown out in the Playoffs or maybe not even make them?

NUH UH ! is it going to make Sid, Geno & Letang become mid 20's again ?

Laviollete was let go…Flyers.

Woiuldn’t be surprised if Sully ended up there .

Caps

 

[The GM]

Just saw breaking story sully has been relieved of his duties……story said decision was made quickly once ducks indicated Eakins is now available

 

[Pittsburgh1776]

This needed to happen last year. Two botched years, and an offseason that almost turned disastrous with Malkin and Letang until FSG stepped in. Hextall had no vision for this team and was content to watch the slow decline instead of going for it with the few years we had left of one of the best cores in NHL history.

Guys like Rust, Jarry, Granlund et al, need to be off this roster. Completely retool the team around core three plus Guentzel. Everyone else can and should be considered expendable, there were way too many passengers this season as there have been since 2018.

Sullivan will not be picking the GM. I expect FSG to hire great managers who will mold the team according to their vision, and that includes the coaching staff, even if FSG loves Sullivan. I would not have been disappointed to see Sullivan move on, but I'm not bothered by him staying. I don't like any coaches that are currently available.

 

[Andy99]

Whoever comes in doesn't get full power. No doubt about it. They need to be at peace that a coach is cemented to work around here.

Maybe they can fire all his assistants AGAIN lol. Not sure a coach has lived longer with this amount of failed expectations.


Is FSG really gonna sign off on firing a coach and paying him out over 16M and paying for an actual coach? That seems like a non starter.

Edit: my mistake, over 18 million

They won’t be paying him…he’ll get a job somewhere else…

I mean any good GM candidate worth his salt would ask Sullivan straight up, "You actually think this PP is good?"

I can see no world where a good GM candidate does not come in and question all of these horrible systems and either change the Assistants and/or coach.

Key word “good GM candidate” lol

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

FSG Wants to Build Forward-Thinking, Proactive Hockey Operations Machine | Pittsburgh Penguins

It hasn't been a great day for hockey, to say the least.For the first time since 2006, Pittsburgh isn't preparing for the playoffs following their regular-season finale, which took place last night in Columbus… and this morning, the Fenway Sports Group announced that the Penguins had relieved...

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[Honour Over Glory]

Less truculence. More suck and fuculence at the B's orgy.

Clam Chowdah slathered all over them.

 

[Flying Dego]

They won’t be paying him…he’ll get a job somewhere else…

Ah terrific. That is wonderful news and I forgot about that tidbit. I really want to believe they'd let a new GM call the shots on the coach. No GM would look at Sullivan's body of work and say 'O ya, this is gonna improve'

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This front office job for Sullivan....tell me more.....

If FSG love him so much, boot him up there and give him his precious contract extension money where he cant hurt anyone. Sullivan will probably quit out of pride.


Its insane how teflon this man is. Look at the constant failure of the PP. Look at the useage. Look at multiple players breaking out as soon as they leave here. These are lineup/on-ice decisions, and that's his f***ing role.

Hextall bears his responsibility. The Jarry/DeSmith schizophrenia tandem tour this season was 100% on his shitty GMing, as were the awful depth moves. But acquiring a dud like Granlund didnt magically make the team unable to execute a simple zone entry, 5-on-4, did it?

More of this shit show is Sullivan's fault like it has been for 5 seasons.

My frustration is with that. I don't even care about the other shit.

 

[Jacob]

Let’s go with Botterill. Smart, forward-thinking, younger, analytics-based guy. Already familiar with the team and a lot of the players. Hopefully got all his F-ups out of his system in Buffalo.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Just saw breaking story sully has been relieved of his duties……story said decision was made quickly once ducks indicated Eakins is now available

What would one have to do with the other?

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Ah terrific. That is wonderful news and I forgot about that tidbit. I really want to believe they'd let a new GM call the shots on the coach. No GM would look at Sullivan's body of work and say 'O ya, this is gonna improve'

"I think the answer that is we think Mike Sullivan is one of the best coaches in the NHL. He was extended last season," he said. "Once we bring in a new hockey operations leader, he or she will be responsible for evaluating the coaching staff. We think Mike is terrific and we think his whole staff is terrific."

I mean that's exactly what I would expect them to say. Watch their interview, they seemed pretty straight up people...

We wanted change and we got some of it (and it's only been a day)

We'll know a lot more when we see the quality of the GM they hire.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's going to be hilarious if the Penguins sign Dubas as the replacement for Hextall. Dubas is the GM that traded for McCann in the expansion draft in 2021, just so he could prevent Kerfoot from being taken in the expansion draft

Who would you rather take, the GM who traded McCann before the expansion draft to instead lose Tanev in the expansion draft or the GM who traded for McCann before the expansion draft to explicitly lose him in the expansion draft?

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This is the dumbest f***ing article I have ever read. I want to comment in that article but I don't want to give that dipshit any more attention than he deserves for a shit article - Yohe: Ron Hextall, in the end, didn't have the backbone for the Penguins' GM job

 

[Turin]

It's going to be hilarious if the Penguins sign Dubas as the replacement for Hextall. Dubas is the GM that traded for McCann in the expansion draft in 2021, just so he could prevent Kerfoot from being taken in the expansion draft

Who would you rather take, the GM who traded McCann before the expansion draft to instead lose Tanev in the expansion draft or the GM who traded for McCann before the expansion draft to explicitly lose him in the expansion draft?

Yea I have massive reservations on Dubas (which is fine since he's staying in Toronto almost guaranteed). Got eaten alive by his core players' agents. That McCann deal to protect Kerfoot who is just McCann without the shot was bad as you said. Trading for Murray was definitely questionable. Getting a very old baby sitter every year was questionable to me. I think he might have gone a bit Shero this offseason with making too many moves just because he's all in (we'll see how that turns out). He's basically only ever had one coach as a professional, he seems very indebted to his past experience with players in the OHL.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yea I have massive reservations on Dubas (which is fine since he's staying in Toronto almost guaranteed). Got eaten alive by his core players' agents. That McCann deal to protect Kerfoot who is just McCann without the shot was bad as you said. Trading for Murray was definitely questionable. Getting a very old baby sitter every year was questionable to me. I think he might have gone a bit Shero this offseason with making too many moves just because he's all in (we'll see how that turns out). He's basically only ever had one coach as a professional, he seems very indebted to his past experience with players in the OHL.

This is why I don't want him more than anything. Granted, the Penguins don't have this issue to deal with, but I think Dubas caving to the Leafs star players and paying them whatever they wanted has been a massive detriment for the Leafs.

People criticize Hextall for almost losing Malkin, but I'd 100% rather my GM plays hardball with my star players and ends up getting a good deal over my GM caving and giving my star players whatever they want.