Isles Prospect Talk 2020-21 Pt. II

[TMI]

So Räty wasn't allowed to attend the WJC but he has continued to play well in Finland, registering an assist today in a 2-1 road win against his own club, Kärpät. His current team has the 2nd best form in a 10-game span with Räty being one of the leading players.

As Isles fans, gotta love seeing this. And can't help but feel, with all due respect to BT, that sometimes giving the kids some more rope to prove themselves is a good thing.

 

[Skip To My Lou]

So Räty wasn't allowed to attend the WJC but he has continued to play well in Finland, registering an assist today in a 2-1 road win against his own club, Kärpät. His current team has the 2nd best form in a 10-game span with Räty being one of the leading players.

Man, did Karpat ever do us a favor by not utilizing this kid to his full potential. We got him at incredible value in the second round.

I can't get over how much I loved watching him in preseason. He just knows what he's doing out there and he's so slick with the puck. Really excited to watch his development.

As Isles fans, gotta love seeing this. And can't help but feel, with all due respect to BT, that sometimes giving the kids some more rope to prove themselves is a good thing.

It would be nice to see Barry give the youngins some more burn, especially with this season being thrown to the dogs. I think this year we're starting to see how Barry isn't a perfect coach. We love him, and I'd love for him to be our coach moving forward, but he's gotta be a little more flexible with the young players.

 

[molotce]

Of anyone has seen raty’s live play id love to hear it ! What i can also see is that hes above 50% on faceoffs most nights (53% last game, 58% today) which is great to see

 

[xECK29x]

 

[The Real JT]

Yawn.

I hope he continues to produce long enough for him to gain some value as a chip in a larger deal for a different player with current NHL talent or realistic potential to get here.

 

[SI90]

 

[doublechili]

Makes sense that he'll be playing in the mountains.

 

[SI90]

Makes sense that he'll be playing in the mountains.

good one!!

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Not sure how this is possible.

He's got 34 games of pro hockey under his belt.

As I've understood it, any pro or major junior hockey makes you uneligible for college hockey.

 

[SI90]

Not sure how this is possible.

He's got 34 games of pro hockey under his belt.

As I've understood it, any pro or major junior hockey makes you uneligible for college hockey.

That had crossed my mind as well. He’s playing in the USHL which is fine but he was in pro leagues in Czech. I’d like to look into this further.


Maybe it’s the last league you’re in? Because he’s in the USHL currently that’s a possible loophole?

 

[xECK29x]

Not sure how this is possible.

He's got 34 games of pro hockey under his belt.

As I've understood it, any pro or major junior hockey makes you uneligible for college hockey.

North American pro hockey

 

[Metallo]

Outsider coming in for a question.

Your 2015 draft pick Misha Song is supposed to be playing for Cornell for the past 4 years but hasn't played a game yet. Did he retire from hockey or have a personal issue?

Misha Song at eliteprospects.com

Just curious. Thanks in advance.

 

[CupHolders]

Outsider coming in for a question.

Your 2015 draft pick Misha Song is supposed to be playing for Cornell for the past 4 years but hasn't played a game yet. Did he retire from hockey or have a personal issue?

Misha Song at eliteprospects.com

Just curious. Thanks in advance.

He was never a legitimate prospect/player. He was a vanity pick for owner Charles Wang and likely his efforts to grow the game in China.

He should be playing on the same team as goalie draft pick Cody Rosen. Another out of left-field pick likely due to off-ice interests.

 

[Metallo]

He was never a legitimate prospect/player. He was a vanity pick for owner Charles Wang and likely his efforts to grow the game in China.

He should be playing on the same team as goalie draft pick Cody Rosen. Another out of left-field pick likely due to off-ice interests.

Thanks for the feedback.

So, is he really with Cornell? Practicing but not getting into games?

Edit: Cornell does not list him on the roster anymore. He was listed last year but the season was cancelled. The prior two seasons he played one exhibition game and dressed for 2 reg season games but did not play so he has 0 NCAA games.

 

[CupHolders]

Thanks for the feedback.

So, is he really with Cornell? Practicing but not getting into games.

Not sure… totally fell off my radar as he wasn’t someone we took seriously around here.

Only news update on him was a promo piece from last January for the upcoming Olympics. Would seem that he has been strictly practice squad up until this year.

He also doesn’t show up on this year’s Cornell roster. Did last year

Now I’m curious to see if he is still playing and where. Anyway FYI (but not really an informative article)…

China's winter sports trailblazers: 1st NHL-drafted Chinese Song Andong

EDIT: I see you also checked Cornell’s roster while I was replying.

Also, any chance you’re an Oiler fan? Maybe we can just square away the inevitable McDavid for Andong “Misha” Song and second pick now?

 

[xECK29x]

Thanks for the feedback.

So, is he really with Cornell? Practicing but not getting into games?

Edit: Cornell does not list him on the roster anymore. He was listed last year but the season was cancelled. The prior two seasons he played one exhibition game and dressed for 2 reg season games but did not play so he has 0 NCAA games.

He got into the college on a athletic scholarship but likely didn't make the team, he is either on the club/JV version of the team or just listed because of the scholarship. It was purely a political pick to get some positive press for the NHL in China.

 

[seafoam]

Outsider coming in for a question.

Your 2015 draft pick Misha Song is supposed to be playing for Cornell for the past 4 years but hasn't played a game yet. Did he retire from hockey or have a personal issue?

Misha Song at eliteprospects.com

Just curious. Thanks in advance.

LinkedIn says he is graduating Cornell this year with a degree in Hospitality Management and was most recently an investment banking intern at a company called Nomura.

He was just drafted to be an ambassador for the game in China and was never a legitimate NHL prospect.

 

[xECK29x]

+ = on IR or just hurt

PLAYER	POS	ACQUIRED	HFB RANK	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Noah Dobson	D	2018 round 1 #12	1	New York Islanders	26	5	9	14	8	3
Oliver Wahlstrom	RW/LW	2018 round 1 #11	2	New York Islanders	26	8	7	15	29	0
Samuel Bolduc	D	2019 round 2 #57	3	Bridgeport Islanders	21	0	0	0	8	-7
Aatu Raty	C	2021 round 2 #52	4	Oulun Karpat	6	0	1	1	2	1
				* Jukurit	14	6	8	14	8	11
				Finland U20 (all)	11	7	13	20	4	1
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	5	Bridgeport Islanders	14	2	6	8	0	-1
				* New York Islanders	9	0	1	1	2	-4
Bode Wilde	D	2018 round 2 #41	6	Vasterviks IK	23	1	5	6	4	-6
Simon Holmstrom	RW/LW	2019 round 1 #23	7	Bridgeport Islanders	28	4	11	15	2	-4
Kieffer Bellows	LW	2016 round 1 #19	8	New York Islanders	14	3	5	8	9	1
William Dufour	RW	2020 round 5 #152	9	Saint John Sea Dogs	28	22	25	47	20	20
Ruslan Iskhakov	C/RW	2018 round 2 #43	10	Adler Mannheim	5	1	5	6	0	6
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	11	New York Islanders	12	0	2	2	0	-6
Alex Jefferies	LW	2019 round 4 #121	13	Merrimack College	15	3	6	9	8	-1
Reece Newkirk	C	2019 round 5 #147	13	Bridgeport Islanders	12	0	1	1	10	-3
				* Worcester Railers	1	0	3	3	0	2
Otto Koivula	C/LW	2016 round 4 #120	14	* Bridgeport Islanders	24	6	16	22	10	0
				New York Islanders	3	0	1	1	0	-1
Grant Hutton	D	FA	15	* Bridgeport Islanders	21	5	4	9	4	-8
				New York Islanders	5	0	0	0	0	0
Alexander Ljungkrantz	LW	2020 round 3 #90	19	Brynas IF	5	0	0	0	0	-2
				Brynas IF J20	16	2	7	9	2	-4
				* HC Vita Hasten	12	2	2	4	0	-1
				Sweden U20 (all)	8	1	1	2	0	-2
Matias Rajaniemi	D	2020 round 6 #183	20	* Lehden Pelicans	33	0	3	3	16	3
				Finland U20 (all)	8	0	2	2	2	0
Collin Adams	LW/C	2016 round 6 #170	HM1	Worcester Railers	8	1	3	4	0	-3
				* Bridgeport Islanders	14	2	2	4	2	-3
Cameron Berg	C	2021 round 4 #125	HM2	Univ. of Nebraska Omaha	19	7	6	13	4	3
Blade Jenkins	LW/C	2018 round 5 #134	HM3	Bridgeport Islanders	27	6	3	9	2	-4
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	HM4	Bridgeport Islanders	31	4	13	17	18	-6
Aleksi Malinen	D	2021 round 6 #189	HM5	* JYP	4	0	0	0	0	-3
				JYP U20	21	2	11	13	8	4
				KeuPa HT	1	0	0	0	0	1
				Finland U20 (all)	5	1	0	1	2	0
Eetu Liukas	LW	2021 round 5 #157		* TPS	24	3	0	3	20	-6
				TPS U20	13	10	10	20	14	5
				Finland U20 (all)	10	1	0	1	14	-1
Ben Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77		Providence College	16	3	1	4	21	1
Christian Krygier	D	2018 round 7 #196		Michigan State Univ.	20	1	5	6	39	-2
Jacob Pivonka	C	2018 round 4 #103		Univ. of Notre Dame	4	0	0	0	0	1
Tomas Machu	D	2021 round 7 #221		HC Vitkovice	10	0	0	0	2	-5
				HC Vitkovice U20	13	4	6	10	10	2
				Draci Sumperk	5	0	5	5	2	1
				Dukla Jihlava	1	0	0	0	0	1
				* Youngstown Phantoms	2	0	1	1	0	1
				Czechia U20	2	0	1	1	0	0
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201		Boston Univ.	17	1	2	3	2	-4
GOALIES					GP	GAA	SV%	SO	W-L-T
Tristan Lennox	G	2021 round 3 #93	17	Saginaw Spirit	13	2.91	.891	0	5-7-0
Jakub Skarek	G	2018 round 3 #72	17	Bridgeport Islanders	19	3.04	.902	1	7-8-4
Henrik Tikkanen	G	2020 round 7 #214		Kalpa	2	4.95	.765	0	0-2-0
				* MoDo Hockey	13	2.81	.896	1	9-2-0

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Osakahaus]

oh shit im back

guess i missed seeing raty start blossoming as of late

 

[thedonger]

He got into the college on a athletic scholarship but likely didn't make the team, he is either on the club/JV version of the team or just listed because of the scholarship. It was purely a political pick to get some positive press for the NHL in China.

Since when did Ivy League schools give out athletic scholarships?

 

[Osakahaus]

what even is our top 10 for prospects anymore? feels like we have like 4 NHL prospects at best, and 2 are probably staying in Europe for the future (Wilde, Ishakov)

We really need more picks soon. The farm is the weakest its ever been

 

[leeroggy]

Since when did Ivy League schools give out athletic scholarships?

They don't, poster is wrong. Academic scholarships and need-based only.

 

[leeroggy]

what even is our top 10 for prospects anymore? feels like we have like 4 NHL prospects at best, and 2 are probably staying in Europe for the future (Wilde, Ishakov)

We really need more picks soon. The farm is the weakest its ever been

Not even close to right. We had years where the 5th-best prospect was barely AHL level if you go back to the early-mid 2000's.

And there are always a few surprises.

Even if you are not counting Wahlstrom, Dobson, Bellows and Salo (the last two can still qualify for Rookie of the Year voting and all of them have a LONG career ahead of them):

Ratu looks like a home run
Holmstrom will be 3rd line at worst, think Pat Flatley
Hutton proved he can play 3rd pair right now, he's got no opening so far to get into the lineup.
Bolduc showed enough to get his ELC pretty early
Dufour is looking like the biggest steal of his draft year
And if you want a really interesting possibility we'll see if Krygier gets signed out of college as another stay-at-home LD.

Outside of these we have some interesting possibilities the last two years.

 

[SI]

Not even close to right. We had years where the 5th-best prospect was barely AHL level if you go back to the early-mid 2000's.

And there are always a few surprises.

Even if you are not counting Wahlstrom, Dobson, Bellows and Salo (the last two can still qualify for Rookie of the Year voting and all of them have a LONG career ahead of them):

Ratu looks like a home run
Holmstrom will be 3rd line at worst, think Pat Flatley
Hutton proved he can play 3rd pair right now, he's got no opening so far to get into the lineup.
Bolduc showed enough to get his ELC pretty early
Dufour is looking like the biggest steal of his draft year
And if you want a really interesting possibility we'll see if Krygier gets signed out of college as another stay-at-home LD.

Outside of these we have some interesting possibilities the last two years.

That is an atrocious list.

 

[leeroggy]

That is an atrocious list.

Jeez, if you think that's bad dig out the Hockey News Top Prospects issues from 15 years ago and go forward