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[periferal]

Baby steps.

Did Malkin take a "baby step" when he hired Lou?

Always aim for the sky...In every moment.

 

[BelovedIsles]

Did Malkin take a "baby step" when he hired Lou?

Always aim for the sky...In every moment.

You wouldn’t be happy w a 5th seed next year. The cup aspirations come in the seasons following.

 

[periferal]

You wouldn’t be happy w a 5th seed next year. The cup aspirations come in the seasons following.

I am well aware that all the Cup winners basically since forever had a core that needed at least a few years to grow into their eventual Cup champion.

All I'm asking for is that everything and anything you can do to make your franchise as "first-class" as possible you do as soon as possible. You can install a Cup-level front office in almost no time. That's all I've been asking for. Then a team needs to grow together.

Think about where we'd be if Malkin removed snow on day 1 of his ownership two years ago? I'd bet we wouldn't be missing the playoffs two years later.

 

[bioman22]

I am well aware that all the Cup winners basically since forever had a core that needed at least a few years to grow into their eventual Cup champion.

All I'm asking for is that everything and anything you can do to make your franchise as "first-class" as possible you do as soon as possible. You can install a Cup-level front office in almost no time. That's all I've been asking for. Then a team needs to grow together.

Think about where we'd be if Malkin removed snow on day 1 of his ownership two years ago? I'd bet we wouldn't be missing the playoffs two years later.

Yes, and a "below or average" GM at last years draft, would have told JT sign the contract or you're being shopped for assets we can control. It's just business. What did we get GS, who has JT going into July 1st a FA and McPhee winning GM of the year. Sorry, very dark...

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Dippin Dots!!!

OK, I take that back... Between now and the end of the month we may see Gomez as the new head coach, JT gone and no other moves made.

Or something in between...

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Yes, and a "below or average" GM at last years draft, would have told JT sign the contract or you're being shopped for assets we can control.

A below average GM would certainly do that because it would have been an idiotic move.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Think about where we'd be if Malkin removed snow on day 1 of his ownership two years ago? I'd bet we wouldn't be missing the playoffs two years later.

Certainly not defending Snow but each year 15 teams miss the playoffs. And the vast majority (except for a couple in full blown rebuilding mode) expected to make the playoffs. And many have competent ownership, competent GM's and competent coaches.

Building success is more than just "firing" people. Remember when firing Capuano was considered "the best move the Islanders have made in a long time?" Haven't made the playoffs since.

 

[YearlyLottery]

Certainly not defending Snow but each year 15 teams miss the playoffs. And the vast majority (except for a couple in full blown rebuilding mode) expected to make the playoffs. And many have competent ownership, competent GM's and competent coaches.

Building success is more than just "firing" people. Remember when firing Capuano was considered "the best move the Islanders have made in a long time?" Haven't made the playoffs since.

Well to be fair they have had one full season without him and this was with a rookie head coach. Yes, they have not made the playoffs since his departure in 2017.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Well to be fair they have had one full season without him and this was with a rookie head coach. Yes, they have not made the playoffs since his departure in 2017.

The point is that people are are enamored by knee-jerk, quick fixes. "So-and-so sucks! Trade him! It'd be addition by subtraction!" "An HF poster can be a better GM! " "The worst coach in pro sports! Fire him and ANYONE will be an upgrade!" How many times have you heard those comments? Rarely works out that way.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Certainly not defending Snow but each year 15 teams miss the playoffs. And the vast majority (except for a couple in full blown rebuilding mode) expected to make the playoffs. And many have competent ownership, competent GM's and competent coaches.

Building success is more than just "firing" people. Remember when firing Capuano was considered "the best move the Islanders have made in a long time?" Haven't made the playoffs since.

We didn’t make the playoffs in ‘17 because of Capuano. And then instead of conducting a real coaching search, Snow promoted his buddy who was just as bad. This team was going nowhere with Cappy, and he clearly wore out his stay with the way the team played before he was fired.

 

[Doshell Propivo]

We didn’t make the playoffs in ‘17 because of Capuano. And then instead of conducting a real coaching search, Snow promoted his buddy who was just as bad. This team was going nowhere with Cappy, and he clearly wore out his stay with the way the team played before he was fired.

Well they made the playoffs the year before that and the year before that. The team certainly struggled his last year and justifiably he was fired. Although they were starting to turn things around about a week or two before Weight took over. Probably because they were all but out of it and the games were essentially meaningless.

 

[leeroggy]

overtown and liberty city yes ... hoffman will probably keep her in the confines of Weston though ... lol

Boca and Wellington might work for her too . . .

 

[Le Grec]

God he's a moron...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...ild-taking-calls-on-Zucker-DumbaBuzz1/1/93475

 

[leeroggy]

Okay, here's my FINAL thoughts going into this week and I'll assume we re-sign JT for this since at this point we can't really adjust this approach until after the draft. And if all this happens and JT still leaves it truly was a decision he made before:

Hiring the coaching staff:

Barry Trotz or Jacques Lemaire as head coach, with Scott Stevens as Associate HC and an offensive mind also on the staff, name of which TBD

Find a way to reconstruct the 4th line by trading Cizikas and Clutterbuck, to open up cap room and spots for better penalty killers. Heck, I'd take a conditional 7th for Clutterbuck at this point, given his playing style he's pretty much done and why keep that slot filled at that salary if he can be dumped?

Try to sign John Carlson. If not, nothing lost. I can not understand the dislike some have here for him. Big time offense, size, skating ability and better in the D zone than given credit for here. Anyone who watched the Stanley Cup run could tell he's a difference maker, as he showed even in Junior when he scored the WJHC OT winner against Canada. By signing him Boychuck can be slotted as a bottom pair RD, keeping him healthier and focused on killing penalties. A Leddy-Carlson pairing is an offensive juggernaut and it would allow Pulock to be the trigger on the 2nd PP without having the pressure to QB the 1st PP.

Without signing Carlson this becomes more difficult since the only FA who could fill out the spot is Green, and he's certainly not the long term answer. But if Bouchard falls, hallelujah . . .

Target Tyler Bozak as the 3rd line center, he's what we all hoped Cizikas would have grown into. Might as well sign the better version. He instantly becomes our D zone faceoff guy.

Make the final decision on de Haan. Can we re-sign him or not? If not, look at using the draft picks creatively, as I noted in the Draft Thread, to find that 2nd pair LD. A de Haan-Pulock pair would be ideal on the 2nd line but if the injury risk is too much look towards Alec Martinez or Jonas Brodin. The #12 pick plus a Vande Sompel should net either plus a swap of picks (LA at #20 or Minnesota at #24). If Minnesota wants more than #12 and MVS for Brodin and #24 we should be able to let Ho-Sang go if that is the ask. We could also maybe go Pelech since I think Toews is going to have the better career.

For a goalie we need to make up our minds on whether Greiss is worth the buyout or not. If we buy him out then I would look at offering Nelson to Nashville for Rinne (one year left at $7 million) and try to pry either Subban or Dansk from Las Vegas as a backup. And that would be my tandem for this season. If Soderstrom shows well in a full AHL year then we let Rinne go after the one year and have Soderstrom, Subban/Dansk and Sorokin down the line as the goalie depth. If Justus Annunen is available in the 4th round you can add him to the mix and we should be set for a decade.

If all this happens, going into the draft picks themselves we are sitting with:

Leddy - Carlson
Martinez/Brodin/de Haan - Pulock
Toews/Pelech - Boychuck

Rinne - Subban/Dansk

Lee - JT - Bailey
Beau - Barzal - Eberle
Ladd - Bozak - ??/Ho-Sang
??/Roussel/Richardson - ??/Brodziak - ??/Komarov

Assuming Bellows starts in the AHL and Ho-Sang is gone. If Ho-Sang is not gone he slots into the 3rd line with two responsible defensive players and can do his thing.

For the 4th line I would look at a Kyle Brodziak to start and a couple of penalty killer specialists. Keep adding to shut down offensive players who kill penalties and that frees the Top 6 to do their thing. How many years of late losses form not doing that have we endured? Maybe Komarov and Roussel/Richardson to round it off.

Let's go with Martinez for the purpose of this and we are sitting at #20, along with #11 and our two 2nd rounders to start.

The #11 pick is really key and the hope of one of Bouchard, Wahlstrom or Boqvist falling is the hope. I'm less sold on Boqvist so trading down if he's the the only remainder of those three is more attractive to me. Even trading the pick to Detroit for Athanasiou, #30 and #33 is something I'd offer. AA could slot into the 3rd line RW if Ho-Sang is traded and #30 and #33 are very good spots this year.

So now we are looking at:

#20, #30, #33, #41 and #43

One scenario is

#20 - Martin Kaut
#30 - Liam Foudy
#33 - Samuelsson or Alexeyev
#41 - Wise
#43 - Tychonick or Bernard-Docker

This looks like a pretty good balance of organizational needs and current possibilities for contending sooner rather than later.

 

[Le Grec]

 

[Le Grec]

 

[SI90]

I’d love Pagaue on the isles.

 

[Le Grec]

 

[webersshot]

Hey guys, I like leddy, Beauvillier, your first two picks

I have pacioretty, 3rd overall and a plethora of 2nds to offer. Can we make a deal? Lol

 

[PK Cronin]

Hey guys, I like leddy, Beauvillier, your first two picks

I have pacioretty, 3rd overall and a plethora of 2nds to offer. Can we make a deal? Lol

Doesn't sound like it.

 

[Le Grec]

Calgary might need a trade partner...

 

[CREW99AW]

Hey guys, I like leddy, Beauvillier, your first two picks

I have pacioretty, 3rd overall and a plethora of 2nds to offer. Can we make a deal? Lol

Each of Lee,Eberle and Bailey had more pts then MaxPac .
21 yr old Beau scored 4 more goals then MaxPac.
Isles do not need a scoring winger. They need a top 4D and goalie.

Isles would not move any of the pieces you want for MaxPac and 2nd rounders .

 

[CREW99AW]

Calgary might need a trade partner...

They are looking for scoring .
Gonna have to be a scorer on a cheap contract or a scorer whose team is willing to retain salary

 

[Doshell Propivo]

Calgary might need a trade partner...

Can we get Hamonic back?

 

[Macch]

God he's a moron...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklu...ild-taking-calls-on-Zucker-DumbaBuzz1/1/93475

I think he's a genius...

To feed hockey fans a bunch of crap and get the hits on his website he does. Kudos to him