Rumor: "Islanders exploring the market on Mat Barzal..."

[Mnsportsfan22]

Knowing how Guerin operates, I expect him to be pretty aggressive for Barzal. What do the Wild have to trade though?

Yurov 27 1st and Hartman wild say yes islanders say no though

 

[Glorydays22]

Barzal to Seattle would make a lot of sense. Eberle as your top winger is a decade too late. Shane Wright might be a good trade candidate there.

Seattle doesn't have the pieces

 

[Glorydays22]

Yurov 27 1st and Hartman wild say yes islanders say no though

that would be an easy No from the isles.

 

[seafoam]

Any team that pays a 1C price for this guy is going to be very disappointed when they get a winger/2C

He's a secondary scoring piece you add if you feel you are one move away from being a Stanley Cup contender. His best year was behind Tavares, it's true he's not a top flight guy but as a secondary player he is still very valuable because he can cut up second / third pairings like a hot knife through butter.

 

[seafoam]

NO. Barzal is too old. Not giving up Hage for him.

MTLs core is ready right now, Barzal is in his prime and signed for another 5 years. He is not too old, you just want to hold onto shiny toys.

 

[mlie1984]

Barzal to CHi for 2026 1st ( 4thOA) + Boisvert/Moore

I’d prefer Moore over Boisvert

I would LOVE Barzal on a line with Bedard, but you're not getting the 4th overall for him at 29 years old when the Hawks have the potential to draft someone 10+ years younger and likely a better player long term.

That said, I would do 2027 Edmonton 1st + 2027 Florida First + Boisvert/Moore (preferably Boisvert) If that isn't enough, the Hawks can take on one of the bad contracts that were stated earlier (preferably Engvall) as a sweetener.

 

[periferal]

What do the Islanders need?

Youth to build around Schaefer.

That means picks and prospects (or decent/good players that are under 25, but they are rarely traded).

 

[Glorydays22]

I would LOVE Barzal on a line with Bedard, but you're not getting the 4th overall for him at 29 years old when the Hawks have the potential to draft someone 10+ years younger and likely a better player long term.

That said, I would do 2027 Edmonton 1st + 2027 Florida First + Boisvert/Moore (preferably Boisvert) If that isn't enough, the Hawks can take on one of the bad contracts that were stated earlier (preferably Engvall) as a sweetener.

Isles pass....sorry there is no need for us to take less. Everyone wants to bash Barzal, yet everyone wants him.....sorry to get you have to pay.

 

[crashthenet]

Oh I dont disagree. The C market is especially thin. But with so many teams looking for a 1C, he's not going to be the answer, hence my comment.

A team like Dallas who could rotate him at winger and C, and isnt relying on him to be their best forward, is a team thats going to get the most out of him. The teams you named? Not so much

I think the Hawks have options. I also think Seattle has to make a move. The are as vanilla as they come. At some point fans stop showing up.

DeBoer's assessment of him is correct. He is a better center than wing. For the Islanders, that 2C spot should likely go to Ritchie. Size down the middle is needed and he had a good second half. The Isles may be better equipped to retool than folks think. If Darche makes the decision he has to get a roster player, prospect and pick. Could really move things forward.

 

[periferal]

NYR makes sense but for obvious reasons would never happen

How in the world do the rangers make sense? They're in more of a rebuild mode than the Islanders.

 

[ACLEVERNAME]

Something built around Pinto makes too much sense. Not sure if I'd 100% want to go down that road but there is something there. Add a young RHD in Yakumchuk and this could be a potential blockbuster.

 

[Chockey22]

Seattle doesn't have the pieces

I'm not sure about that - O'Brien, 7th overall this year, Wright

 

[SI90]

I would LOVE Barzal on a line with Bedard, but you're not getting the 4th overall for him at 29 years old when the Hawks have the potential to draft someone 10+ years younger and likely a better player long term.

That said, I would do 2027 Edmonton 1st + 2027 Florida First + Boisvert/Moore (preferably Boisvert) If that isn't enough, the Hawks can take on one of the bad contracts that were stated earlier (preferably Engvall) as a sweetener.

that’s a legit package. And taking on Engvall would be great.

 

[Glorydays22]

I'm not sure about that - O'Brien, 7th overall this year, Wright

Don't like wright as all....he's at best a 3C and we don't need another 3C....

 

[periferal]

I just really don't understand why the Isles would move their best forward who is still relatively young, at a point where their team is configured to try to make noise right now. Especially while you've got Schaefer wildly outproducing his dirt cheap ELC as a huge point of leverage in the market and team building.


Kinda calling bullshit on this being credible. Especially given the source.

You must be letting the hype behind Schaefer and the exceptional play of Sorokin distract you from the fact that the rest of the roster would be a lottery team. Not sure what "noise" you think the Isles would make unless this is what you mean...

 

[periferal]

No way the Islanders would entertain trading him within the Metro.

If the Islanders were even considering trading him, I would think the return would be similar in structure to the Dobson deal but with slightly higher value.

Doesn't make sense though to move him given the Islanders weren't far from the playoffs. Only reason would be if they had another move lined up for a bonafide 1st liner and wanted cap space.

Way too many people confuse being in the playoff hunt with actually being a contender.

The Isles have a very broken roster with basically any success being due to Sorking and Schaefer. Plus they're one of the oldest teams in the league so they need a a massive makeover that includes adding more top-end talent and young talent at that.

 

[crashthenet]

The same GM and President in Boston rumored to not have drafted Barzal due to his poor interview with the team aren't going to trade for him 10 years later for a young C prospect and 1sts when Barzal has not shown he is the #1C on the Islanders which is currently the Bruins' biggest long-term need.

Bruins prospects are brutal.

 

[periferal]

Oh, Isles starting another rebuild?

Whatever the exact opposite is of having an objective constructive conversation...Is what you are.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Reinbacher + Hage

 

[ManByng]

MTLs core is ready right now, Barzal is in his prime and signed for another 5 years. He is not too old, you just want to hold onto shiny toys.

That's a problem with most team's fans that don't realize that their teams rebuild is over and now adding good and experienced pieces will cost some youth. It's really OK to do this as Montreal's #1 goal now is to win a cup and not hold onto every shiny new toy in the system !

 

[Natey]

Reinbacher + Hage

Not Reinbacher please.

Engstrom (or Pickford) and a 2nd would be the equivalent. Give that.

Unless you really don't trust his injuries.

 

[periferal]

4th overall for Barzal is quite a dream.

...For the Blackhawks?

 

[seafoam]

Seattle doesn't have the pieces

O'Brien is not a worthy piece?

 

[Glorydays22]

O'Brien is not a worthy piece?

He's the only prospect in their system I have any interest...but that's not enough

 

[Chockey22]

O'Brien is not a worthy piece?

exactly, he's a significant piece, and if Verhoeff is still there at 7, that's not a bad start