Friedman: Islanders “testing the market” on Dobson

[samsagat]

I don't understand why there's rumors of Dobson being on the market.

Afaic, when you have that kind of a defenseman, even more so a righty, you keep him...

 

[seabass45]

Um what about the 9th+byram+rosen for Dobson and barzal that should be in the ball park for fair value

It is not in the ballpark.

 

[Thrasymachus]

They make no sense. They resign 34 year old Palmieri, but want to trade their best defenceman who is still young?

I think Darche resigned Palms because he was honoring the handshake deal made by Lou.

 

[Hookslide]

7th overall + McAvoy for Dobson.

Isles draft Hagens.

A double homecoming.

WTF.......

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I think some people are over reacting to how much he is asking for. It's negotiations of coarse you will ask for more than you actually hope/expect to get

At the end of the day he probably signs for 9-9.5M

Maybe. Is he asking for $11M so that he can sign for $9-$9.5M? Or is he asking for $11M because in 2 years it'll be the equivalent of $9-$9.5M?

 

[qcal1427]

I think some people are over reacting to how much he is asking for. It's negotiations of coarse you will ask for more than you actually hope/expect to get

At the end of the day he probably signs for 9-9.5M

I mean Chychrun just extended for $9M ... you'd think Dobson would be in the next tier up

 

[miscs75]

They make no sense. They resign 34 year old Palmieri, but want to trade their best defenceman who is still young?

Palmieri is also a short term depth signing for the forwards. He can still produce at 34. Rather have him then some upcoming UFA who’s 15 goal career high will cost the same with more term as Kyle did.

 

[ExtraLoveSauce]

It is not in the ballpark.

What about just dobson?

 

[Leafshater67]

The Sabres should be all over this. Maybe something around Peterka and/or Byram as a major piece. They are desperate for a RD

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

7th overall + McAvoy for Dobson.

Isles draft Hagens.

A double homecoming.

McAvoy is better, what is NYI adding to Dobson? The 7th overall would be excluded naturally.

 

[seabass45]

What about just dobson?

It’s fine value-wise but doesn’t seem to be much of a consideration of our needs. We’ll have Pelech, Romanov, and probably Schaefer on LD, adding Byram isn’t a good use of assets. #9 is fine but part of the appeal of dangling Dobson is to get Hagens, who likely won’t be available at that point. And if we can’t get that done the best trade option might be to get scoring help up front (Robertson has been mentioned in this respect).

 

[ExtraLoveSauce]

It’s fine value-wise but doesn’t seem to be much of a consideration of our needs. We’ll have Pelech, Romanov, and probably Schaefer on LD, adding Byram isn’t a good use of assets. #9 is fine but part of the appeal of dangling Dobson is to get Hagens, who likely won’t be available at that point. And if we can’t get that done the best trade option might be to get scoring help up front (Robertson has been mentioned in this respect).

Fair enough

 

[StreetHawk]

I mean Chychrun just extended for $9M ... you'd think Dobson would be in the next tier up

I have to agree. Hanifin/Hronek were extended for like $7.3 mill a year earlier. Now, that number appears closer to around $9 mill.
Question is whether Dobson will be worth $10-11 mill per season? What benefits Dobson is that he has Pullock ahead of him on the right side to handle tough Defensive matchups.
It's a new GM, so no ties to anyone. Nothing wrong with seeing what the market is for any of his RHD, be it Pullock, Mayfield, Dobson. If the new NYI gm was shopping for futures, he'd get a boatload of offers.

But, don't think he's looking for that.

 

[8thRoundPick]

7th overall + McAvoy for Dobson.

Isles draft Hagens.

A double homecoming.

This is an obvious troll, but if NYI's ultimate goal in this draft was to go home with Hagens and McAvoy, what would it actually cost? Here's my guess;

7th OA, 61st OA, McAvoy
For
1st OA, 42nd OA, Dobson (sign and trade)

Bruins would be getting worse on the backend here initially - Dobson isn't as good as Chuckie and Dobson will likely cost slightly more AAV based on this being a 2025 contract signing, and not a 2021 signing. To offset this value indifference, the Bruins upgrade 1st and 2nd round picks. This also assumes Hagens is around at 7 for NYI, and that's far from a given. Would NYI be just as happy to walk away from the draft with Desnoyers or Martin for example? Not sure about that.

TBH, I believe both teams say no to this proposal, just doesn't seem realistic. I think it's decently close value wise, however.

 

[67 others]

Is he that bad defensively where they shouldn’t just pay him 10 and be done with it? Bc idk why you trade him.

It was weird last year. It's like he massively regressed.

 

[majormajor]

Pinto and Yakemchuk, could Darche say no?

Maybe Pinto straight up.

Ottawa should steer clear of Dobson entirely, they don't need him and can't afford his next contract.

Pinto could be a really important player and shouldn't be bandied about in every deal.

 

[Glorydays22]

Um what about the 9th+byram+rosen for Dobson and barzal that should be in the ball park for fair value

That's a big fat NO.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

It was weird last year. It's like he massively regressed.

He definitely wasn't great. That being said, best defensive metrics on the team, still managed to put in 40 points on a team with no offense and plays a position most teams are looking for. Understand gauging his value but you won't find a RD with his current stats that's RFA or UFA without ponying up 10+ in the next couple of years.

If they could get the term under 8 years I'd give him 9.5 easy.

 

[Glorydays22]

McAvoy is better, what is NYI adding to Dobson? The 7th overall would be excluded naturally.

Isles don't want McAvoy. This is moot

 

[ICCARDZ]

Montreal should be all over this.

Dach, Mailloux, 16 + 17th overall

 

[Glorydays22]

Montreal should be all over this.

Dach, Mailloux, 16 + 17th overall

no thanks, it a weak draft, 16 and 17 don't have much value as usual and no interest Dach at all.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Montreal should be all over this.

Dach, Mailloux, 16 + 17th overall

More quality, less quantity.

 

[BB88]

Montreal should be all over this.

Dach, Mailloux, 16 + 17th overall

Dach has zero trade value

You don’t trade a franchise player for weak 1st round picks

 

[Castle8130]

Utah and Detroit should be throwing the kitchen sink at this kid. Exactly what both teams need and fits the timeline extremely well

 

[ICCARDZ]

More quality, less quantity.

Reinbacher + 16th