Is the Bruins loss the biggest choke job ever?

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The answer is yes. Yes it is.

It's not that. Much of the regular season wins and points is a function of a third of the league tanking. Nevertheless, it was a formiddable regular season that compares to recent ones. But what makes it bad is being up 3-1 and then losing. And what probably also stings is they were up 3-1, get Bergeron back, then proceed to go 0-3 to lose the series.
 

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I'm a Leaf fan, there's nothing karma can do that hasn't already been done

Now I understand your behavior. You think you’re justified in running around like a troll because your experience as a leafs fan is miserable? Funny. I don’t remember ever seeing cubs fans act like that.

Don’t take sports so seriously, it’ll help improve how you carry yourself as a person when your team inevitably loses. Go ahead and laugh at the post instead of replying with substance, I accept and forgive you for your lack of humility and grace.
 
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Now I understand your behavior. You think you’re justified in running around like a troll because your experience as a leafs fan is miserable? Funny. I don’t remember ever seeing cubs fans act like that.

Don’t take sports so seriously, it’ll help improve how you carry yourself as a person when your team inevitably loses. Go ahead and laugh at the post instead of replying with substance, I accept and forgive you for your lack of humility and grace.
This is all good and valid advice. I've gotta say, though, that somehow "humilty and grace" are simply not terms that I in any way associate with the Boston Bruins (media, fans, organization, etc.). That may be a sweeping generalization, but it's the case even so. I'm just sayin'...
 
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Just put a poll with all the 3-0 comebacks and 82 oilers, 93 pens, 2019 lightning, 2023 bruins and see what people think.
 

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I'd still go with Tampa Bay in 2019.
I think Boston's resume will still ve written by how the Panthers perform.
Even if I think the Leafs will win over them, they have proven me quite wrong already.
 
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Boston will win Stanley Cup 2024. Why Caps best team 17 Stanley 18, Tampa best team 19 Stanley 20 , Colorado best team 21 Stanley 22, Boston best team 23
 
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This is all good and valid advice. I've gotta say, though, that somehow "humilty and grace" are simply not terms that I in any way associate with the Boston Bruins (media, fans, organization, etc.). That may be a sweeping generalization, but it's the case even so. I'm just sayin'...

I think if you make that argument, you make it for *all* sports fanbases

Over the years I’ve been one of the more positive/optimistic fans on HF bruins, and in general I really appreciate talking hockey with anyone, regardless of the team they cheer for. We’re all United by the fact we love hockey. I became good friends with my long term dental hygienist who is a habs fan. I’ve had great conversations with leaf fans, ranger fans, Pittsburgh fans, flyer fans, Buffalo fans, devils fans …I think that’s the extent of one’s I’ve met in person.

What I don’t like is;
-Kicking someone when they’re down
-Entitlement

That goes for all fanbases. Patriots. Lakers. Bruins. Whoever.

I think we as people need to remember to address our specific complaints with specific people instead of painting with a broad brush. I don’t wish the leafs success against my own team but I think the amount of fans that have loved them despite their failures is really commendable and you gotta feel for those fans, I respect them and even hope for them to see their team win - I have no respect for people that just wait in the weeds to stick the knife in and twist it at low moment for a fanbase. It’s toxic and unnecessary. There are so many fans out there that look to their favorite sports team for comfort in tough times. When the bruins lost to the blues that was a really tough loss for me as a fan because it ended up being the last time Bergeron, chara, Rask, Krejci , Marchand were all together and that close to the finish line - I especially felt for Rask because he really deserved better. But, I really appreciated that blues fans got to enjoy that after so many missed chances, and what it meant for Laila made it a lot easier for me to digest as a fan.

So, that’s where I’m at. Maybe it’s easier for me because I have gotten to see the bruins hoist a cup and they’ve had a lot of success overall, but I don’t really understand the need to kick people while they’re down, it’s just a game and it’s supposed to bring joy to people, not pettiness and one more thing to feel negativity about
 

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I think you can break it down even further: Biggest upset vs biggest choke.

Columbus vs TB was a bigger upset, but I wouldn't label it as big of a choke job as Boston. The reason being that the 2023 Bruins are, statistically, the best team in regular season history. They went into the playoffs injured, still managed to get a 3-1 series lead, and then their captain comes back for the final 3 games and they blow it. They had 3 chances in a row to eliminate Florida, but couldn't seal the deal. They even had a 1-goal lead in the waning minutes of game 7.

The 'Lumbus/TB series could be labeled as a bigger upset, but I don't think I'd count it as a bigger choke job than Boston. TB never had Columbus on the ropes, they just got out-played from beginning to end.
 
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If it's not the 2023 Bruins, then it's the 2010 Bruins. With the 2013 Leafs close behind.

Eh idk, 2010 they had a meh roster offensively and then lost Krejci in that turning point game. 3-0 in game 7 is probably the kicker, as much as the Panthers earned that game 7 win something tells me if this year’s bruins went up 3-0 in the first period on the panthers it might have been tougher for them to come back as opposed to a 1 goal deficit late in the game

I’d say 2014 was probably the biggest “choke” overall as the bruins had an excellent roster, and just fell flat against montreal in game 7 and showed no life at all.

At least in 2023 the Panthers played really tough but simple playoff hockey and kept clawing back, and the bruins showed life/fight in all three losses. But a team with a prime Bergeron, Krejci, Rask, Chara, Boychuck (can’t remember if seidenberg was out with an injury) Eriksson, as well as a still very good Iginla and Lucic somehow looked like a soulless corpse in that deciding game at home.

I’d also put 2019 game 7 right up there for a similar reason, however in that game at least the bruins came out in period 1 on fire. Mental mistakes just cost them and then they ended up playing soulless and scared after it was 2-0
 

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Sure feels that way especially if you’re a Bruins fan.

I’d put in slightly ahead of Tampa getting swept in 2019 simply because it was 3-1 and you had 3 games to win 1 and close it out. That’s the definition of a choke to me.

3-0 down in 2010 was erased from my memory rather quickly thanks to the following seasons cup win, but that roster was fairly weak and once Krejci went down the writing was on the wall. Still a pretty impressive choke job considering game 7 was 3-0 as well.

Still 2019 was worse for me personally because the cup was in the building. It’ll haunt me every day until they win a cup again (might be awhile).

Hockey is the worst isn’t it? :laugh:
 
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Sure feels that way especially if you’re a Bruins fan.

I’d put in slightly ahead of Tampa getting swept in 2019 simply because it was 3-1 and you had 3 games to win 1 and close it out. That’s the definition of a choke to me.


3-0 down in 2010 was erased from my memory rather quickly thanks to the following seasons cup win, but that roster was fairly weak and once Krejci went down the writing was on the wall. Still a pretty impressive choke job considering game 7 was 3-0 as well.

Still 2019 was worse for me personally because the cup was in the building. It’ll haunt me every day until they win a cup again (might be awhile).

Hockey is the worst isn’t it? :laugh:

Yeah, I think a lot of people aren't fully understanding the subject of biggest choke vs biggest disappointment. The fact that the Lightning couldn't take a game is definitely a bigger disapointment but after the first period of game 1 they never led in that series.
 

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This Bruins core got a TON of mileage out of 2011. Outside of that, they've had some notable collapses:

- Blowing a 3-0 series lead in 2010.
- Getting scored on twice in the final minute to lose Game 6 of the SCF's in 2013 on home ice.
- No showing in Game 7 of the 2019 SCF's on home ice.
- Losing to the Panthers after being up 3-1 this year.

Possibly one of the more overrated cores ever, IMO.
 

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This Bruins core got a TON of mileage out of 2011. Outside of that, they've had some notable collapses:

- Blowing a 3-0 series lead in 2010.
- Getting scored on twice in the final minute to lose Game 6 of the SCF's in 2013 on home ice.
- No showing in Game 7 of the 2019 SCF's on home ice.
- Losing to the Panthers after being up 3-1 this year.

Possibly one of the more overrated cores ever, IMO.

I’m far from a Bruins fan, but it’s tough to win in this league. A Cup and two finals in 12 years is still pretty damn impressive.

Boston has enjoyed an incredible run in sports since the Patriots’ first Super Bowl. Most cities can only dream of the success they’ve had across the four major North American sports.
 

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Said it in different thread but when you look at the roster and look at their record, it doesn't add up. Light the torches. A bunch of old guys with two goalies splitting the job. Then look at the opponent, last year's presidents trophy team with arguably a better player then huberdeau added, it's really not that unthinkable.
 
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I think if you make that argument, you make it for *all* sports fanbases

Over the years I’ve been one of the more positive/optimistic fans on HF bruins, and in general I really appreciate talking hockey with anyone, regardless of the team they cheer for. We’re all United by the fact we love hockey. I became good friends with my long term dental hygienist who is a habs fan. I’ve had great conversations with leaf fans, ranger fans, Pittsburgh fans, flyer fans, Buffalo fans, devils fans …I think that’s the extent of one’s I’ve met in person.

What I don’t like is;
-Kicking someone when they’re down
-Entitlement

That goes for all fanbases. Patriots. Lakers. Bruins. Whoever.

I think we as people need to remember to address our specific complaints with specific people instead of painting with a broad brush. I don’t wish the leafs success against my own team but I think the amount of fans that have loved them despite their failures is really commendable and you gotta feel for those fans, I respect them and even hope for them to see their team win - I have no respect for people that just wait in the weeds to stick the knife in and twist it at low moment for a fanbase. It’s toxic and unnecessary. There are so many fans out there that look to their favorite sports team for comfort in tough times. When the bruins lost to the blues that was a really tough loss for me as a fan because it ended up being the last time Bergeron, chara, Rask, Krejci , Marchand were all together and that close to the finish line - I especially felt for Rask because he really deserved better. But, I really appreciated that blues fans got to enjoy that after so many missed chances, and what it meant for Laila made it a lot easier for me to digest as a fan.

So, that’s where I’m at. Maybe it’s easier for me because I have gotten to see the bruins hoist a cup and they’ve had a lot of success overall, but I don’t really understand the need to kick people while they’re down, it’s just a game and it’s supposed to bring joy to people, not pettiness and one more thing to feel negativity about
Very good post............but you are 1 in 10K when it comes to Boston fans....not just HF Boston fans, but in general.
The city of Boston has some of the most amazing sports fans, and some of the most amazing sports teams, the city has been spoiled in all of the four major sports.....that said, they also have some of the most terrible and annoying fans, in the world.

Once again, very good post...........you are a gem. Especially considering, you are a B's fan.
 

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I think if you make that argument, you make it for *all* sports fanbases

Over the years I’ve been one of the more positive/optimistic fans on HF bruins, and in general I really appreciate talking hockey with anyone, regardless of the team they cheer for. We’re all United by the fact we love hockey. I became good friends with my long term dental hygienist who is a habs fan. I’ve had great conversations with leaf fans, ranger fans, Pittsburgh fans, flyer fans, Buffalo fans, devils fans …I think that’s the extent of one’s I’ve met in person.
Absolutely. At the same time, I think that it's important to maintain some perspective as well. This is just a discussion board that focuses on a very competetive sport. We aren't discussing the current climate crisis or solving world hunger here. IMHO, a certain amount of razzing/chirping/ribbing/etc. is simply a part of hockey culture. The key is for it to remain good-natured. Sadly, there's also something about this remarkable game that seems to bring out the worst in some folks (hence the adage, "Instant @sshole - just add skates." I've played with my fair share of guys like this - super great guys until they put skates on, at which time a Jekyll-Hyde transformation occurs). When all is said and done, it still really is just a game - and a really enjoyable one to ponder, debate, pontificate, expound upon, etc.


What I don’t like is;
-Kicking someone when they’re down
-Entitlement

That goes for all fanbases. Patriots. Lakers. Bruins. Whoever.

I think we as people need to remember to address our specific complaints with specific people instead of painting with a broad brush. I don’t wish the leafs success against my own team but I think the amount of fans that have loved them despite their failures is really commendable and you gotta feel for those fans, I respect them and even hope for them to see their team win - I have no respect for people that just wait in the weeds to stick the knife in and twist it at low moment for a fanbase. It’s toxic and unnecessary. There are so many fans out there that look to their favorite sports team for comfort in tough times.
I suppose that, ideally, fans of each and every team in sports would support and want the best for fans of other teams. But that also seems somewhat naive, given that rivalries are a very real element of sports - especially extremely competetive ones like hockey. Personally, what I most love to see in every sport is parity. I've been told by many of my buddies that I'm crazy, naive, etc. but it's true. I just love the idea of championships being spread around, rather than living through periods of dominance for various teams.


When the bruins lost to the blues that was a really tough loss for me as a fan because it ended up being the last time Bergeron, chara, Rask, Krejci , Marchand were all together and that close to the finish line - I especially felt for Rask because he really deserved better. But, I really appreciated that blues fans got to enjoy that after so many missed chances, and what it meant for Laila made it a lot easier for me to digest as a fan.

So, that’s where I’m at. Maybe it’s easier for me because I have gotten to see the bruins hoist a cup and they’ve had a lot of success overall, but I don’t really understand the need to kick people while they’re down, it’s just a game and it’s supposed to bring joy to people, not pettiness and one more thing to feel negativity about
That's a really imporant distinction to be mindful of. Of all the teams I cheer for, I cheer the heartiest for Vancouver :cheer: (I know!! Can you imagine?! I guess there has to be one on every forum eh, lol?! ;)). And I think it's fair to say that I came to disrespect the entire Bruins' organization during the 2011 finals. If I had to use one word to desribe the overall demeanor of Bostonians from my perspective, it would be "obnoxious." (Even Boston's mayor at the time came off as a complete idiot and an utter douche!) You mention disappointment. That series made me feel not only profound disappointment, but also complete and total disgust for the entire NHL organization. For years, we heard that the League was committed to removing the chippiness, dirtiness, etc. from the game. Dirty hits, head-shots, and attempts to injure were all going to be harshly penalized. We were moving towards a kinder, gentler, faster, more skill-based brand of hockey and away from the need to have goons on each team. Please understand that I've always really, REALLY enjoyed the physicality of the game. I LOVE hard-hitting, gritty hockey. But if that's where the NHL wanted to go, then fair enough. There seemed to be evidence that the League was, indeed, committed to implementing this new style of hockey. (Obviously, the Canucks' organization also took it seriously, as they assembled an extremely fast, skilled, smart - but not particularly tough - team.) And then the finals started and it was as if everything that the League had claimed and worked towards just disappeared. The Bruins were allowed to have their way with the 'nucks and the number of non-calls was positively outrageous. To say that I was stunned would be a monumental understatement.

For the record, I was okay with losing in game seven to the Rangers in '94. It was a well-played, close series and it felt like the Rangers won fair and square. But the 2011 playoffs was a shameful disgrace. Call me crazy, but I honestly believe that the League engineered a win for an O6 team.

When all is said and done, I do realize that it's just game. Whether or not the Canucks ever hoist a Cup will really have very little impact on my quality of life. But I do enjoy the game and I will always cheer the loudest for my hometown team - through thick and thin. And year after year, when Vancouver gets eliminated (notice "when," rather than "if," lol!), I have no problem cheering for other teams. The one team I will never cheer for, however, is the Bruins. I simply have no respect for Boston and don't believe that they need a Cup any time in the near future.

The fact that Boston has hung on to Marchand just strengthens my resolve. I'm not sure that I've ever said this about any other athlete before, but I will even go so far as to say that if they wanted a picture to put in the dictionary beside the term "human garbage," Marchand's mug would be the wise, obvious choice. I'm not naive - I realize that he's extremely valuable to the organization and that if Boston chose to trade him, there'd be line-up of other teams who'd love to sign him. But I guess my own personal code of ethics simply cannot come to grips with having a face-licking dirtbag like this on a sports team. He has crossed lines to the point where I don't believe he should even be allowed to play in the League.

The funny thing is, I suppose that I might come off as bitter. But to be honest, I'm really not at all. I will always feel profound disgust for the way the NHL handled the 2011 finals, and I can't imagine ever cheering for the Bruins - under any circumstances, but I'm really just a hockey-loving goofball who has his teams that he usually cheers for. It just also happens to be the case that I am always happy to see Boston lose. I mean, it genuinely makes me happy. (Sometimes I wonder if that will change when they get rid of Marchand. I suppose it's possible, but probably not likely.) That probably makes me a bad guy in some peoples' minds, and I guess folks are fully entitled to feel that way if they want to. With 32 teams in the League, everyone has their own ranking. When push comes to shove, there's a #32 in everyone's ranking. In mine, it's definitely Boston.
 
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Very good post............but you are 1 in 10K when it comes to Boston fans....not just HF Boston fans, but in general.
Can I get an Amen?

The city of Boston has some of the most amazing sports fans, and some of the most amazing sports teams, the city has been spoiled in all of the four major sports.....that said, they also have some of the most terrible and annoying fans, in the world.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again, very good post...........you are a gem. Especially considering, you are a B's fan.
Yes, Yes, and Y-E-S!! You appear to be class act, Sir!
 
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Eh idk, 2010 they had a meh roster offensively and then lost Krejci in that turning point game. 3-0 in game 7 is probably the kicker, as much as the Panthers earned that game 7 win something tells me if this year’s bruins went up 3-0 in the first period on the panthers it might have been tougher for them to come back as opposed to a 1 goal deficit late in the game

I’d say 2014 was probably the biggest “choke” overall as the bruins had an excellent roster, and just fell flat against montreal in game 7 and showed no life at all.

At least in 2023 the Panthers played really tough but simple playoff hockey and kept clawing back, and the bruins showed life/fight in all three losses. But a team with a prime Bergeron, Krejci, Rask, Chara, Boychuck (can’t remember if seidenberg was out with an injury) Eriksson, as well as a still very good Iginla and Lucic somehow looked like a soulless corpse in that deciding game at home.

I’d also put 2019 game 7 right up there for a similar reason, however in that game at least the bruins came out in period 1 on fire. Mental mistakes just cost them and then they ended up playing soulless and scared after it was 2-0
I guess it depends on what you consider a choke. I think of a choke job as when a team has a game/series in the bag but then suffering an epic collapse. Bruins 2014 and Bruins 2019 at least lost in a back and forth series each of those years. But 2010 and 2023, they got to a point where they just had to not completely collapse.

I think 2010 wins because they blew it twice - 3-0 series lead and 3-0 game 7 lead.
 
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Absolutely. At the same time, I think that it's important to maintain some perspective as well. This is just a discussion board that focuses on a very competetive sport. We aren't discussing the current climate crisis or solving world hunger here. IMHO, a certain amount of razzing/chirping/ribbing/etc. is simply a part of hockey culture. The key is for it to remain good-natured. Sadly, there's also something about this remarkable game that seems to bring out the worst in some folks (hence the adage, "Instant @sshole - just add skates." I've played with my fair share of guys like this - super great guys until they put skates on, at which time a Jekyll-Hyde transformation occurs). When all is said and done, it still really is just a game - and a really enjoyable one to ponder, debate, pontificate, expound upon, etc.



I suppose that, ideally, fans of each and every team in sports would support and want the best for fans of other teams. But that also seems somewhat naive, given that rivalries are a very real element of sports - especially extremely competetive ones like hockey. Personally, what I most love to see in every sport is parity. I've been told by many of my buddies that I'm crazy, naive, etc. but it's true. I just love the idea of championships being spread around, rather than living through periods of dominance for various teams.



That's a really imporant distinction to be mindful of. Of all the teams I cheer for, I cheer the heartiest for Vancouver :cheer: (I know!! Can you imagine?! I guess there has to be one on every forum eh, lol?! ;)). And I think it's fair to say that I came to disrespect the entire Bruins' organization during the 2011 finals. If I had to use one word to desribe the overall demeanor of Bostonians from my perspective, it would be "obnoxious." (Even Boston's mayor at the time came off as a complete idiot and an utter douche!) You mention disappointment. That series made me feel not only profound disappointment, but also complete and total disgust for the entire NHL organization. For years, we heard that the League was committed to removing the chippiness, dirtiness, etc. from the game. Dirty hits, head-shots, and attempts to injure were all going to be harshly penalized. We were moving towards a kinder, gentler, faster, more skill-based brand of hockey and away from the need to have goons on each team. Please understand that I've always really, REALLY enjoyed the physicality of the game. I LOVE hard-hitting, gritty hockey. But if that's where the NHL wanted to go, then fair enough. There seemed to be evidence that the League was, indeed, committed to implementing this new style of hockey. (Obviously, the Canucks' organization also took it seriously, as they assembled an extremely fast, skilled, smart - but not particularly tough - team.) And then the finals started and it was as if everything that the League had claimed and worked towards just disappeared. The Bruins were allowed to have their way with the 'nucks and the number of non-calls was positively outrageous. To say that I was stunned would be a monumental understatement.

For the record, I was okay with losing in game seven to the Rangers in '94. It was a well-played, close series and it felt like the Rangers won fair and square. But the 2011 playoffs was a shameful disgrace. Call me crazy, but I honestly believe that the League engineered a win for an O6 team.

When all is said and done, I do realize that it's just game. Whether or not the Canucks ever hoist a Cup will really have very little impact on my quality of life. But I do enjoy the game and I will always cheer the loudest for my hometown team - through thick and thin. And year after year, when Vancouver gets eliminated (notice "when," rather than "if," lol!), I have no problem cheering for other teams. The one team I will never cheer for, however, is the Bruins. I simply have no respect for Boston and don't believe that they need a Cup any time in the near future.

The fact that Boston has hung on to Marchand just strengthens my resolve. I'm not sure that I've ever said this about any other athlete before, but I will even go so far as to say that if they wanted a picture to put in the dictionary beside the term "human garbage," Marchand's mug would be the wise, obvious choice. I'm not naive - I realize that he's extremely valuable to the organization and that if Boston chose to trade him, there'd be line-up of other teams who'd love to sign him. But I guess my own personal code of ethics simply cannot come to grips with having a face-licking dirtbag like this on a sports team. He has crossed lines to the point where I don't believe he should even be allowed to play in the League.

The funny thing is, I suppose that I might come off as bitter. But to be honest, I'm really not at all. I will always feel profound disgust for the way the NHL handled the 2011 finals, and I can't imagine ever cheering for the Bruins - under any circumstances, but I'm really just a hockey-loving goofball who has his teams that he usually cheers for. It just also happens to be the case that I am always happy to see Boston lose. I mean, it genuinely makes me happy. (Sometimes I wonder if that will change when they get rid of Marchand. I suppose it's possible, but probably not likely.) That probably makes me a bad guy in some peoples' minds, and I guess folks are fully entitled to feel that way if they want to. With 32 teams in the League, everyone has their own ranking. When push comes to shove, there's a #32 in everyone's ranking. In mine, it's definitely Boston.

Here’s the kicker too - the bruins headed toward speed and skill after they couldn’t get it done following that cup - only to run into a team that used their blue print from 2011 in the 2019 snt louis blues. Talk about karma!
 

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Here’s the kicker too - the bruins headed toward speed and skill after they couldn’t get it done following that cup - only to run into a team that used their blue print from 2011 in the 2019 snt louis blues. Talk about karma!
And it was surreal for me to watch the Bruins changing their style of play. I'd always associated the team with a tough, gritty style of play - one that I really enjoy and appreciate. Funny how things work, eh?
 
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