urbom claimed on waivers by the capitals. anyone here that thinks he wasn't offered for trade? perhaps lou just woke up and wanted to waive him, that's sounds about right.
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Guess what, we're now part of that horrible group you've just listed above for the past several years now if we remove our "fluke" cup run.
Why is it so painfull for some to say that the man who basically built this franchise in our glory days is now doing the opposite cause he has his hands in every single aspect of our team and his "old schooled" approach isn't getting any traction in today's game.
The man woke up 5 years too late when talking about generating offense from the backend. Granted, he's been drafting those type of blueliners in the past couple of drafts, the same type of d-men we've been requesting for god knows when but the bottom line is that he put this franchise on hold for not doing is homework earlier.
He was proactive regarding our goaltender situation but only half of the work is done cause now he needs to resign Schneider to a multi year deal and if we look at our previous track record regarding our pending UFA, it's nothing short of a MASSSSSSSIVE DISASTER.
You might say that the Clarkson signing by the Leafs is a joke but Lou managed to "one up" the Leafs by giving a similar contract to Clowe. We proceeded to sign Brunner and Ryder as well, who are known as snipers but we don't have a legit center who can feed both players, so they're looking like hot garbage as we speak and if both players aren't producing offensively, they're value to our lineup is almost on par with what Janssen gives us... ****ing nothing.
The point you make regarding other teams being in the crapper after losing their star players is the exact reason why certain fans are sick on tired of the 71 year old "genius". The question you should ask yourself is this... "Why aren't other teams losing their star players like we've had to deal with over the past decade+?". What did the Ducks do in the past several years that could convince both Perry and Getzlaf to resign long term instead of testing free agency? Ovy and Backstrom? Why didn't John Tavares decide to sign the shortest of deals in order to hit free agency faster instead of inking a LTC on a team that's been in the gutter for decades?
To me, those are the real questions that needs be to answered. If we've been this model of success for the past 20 years, almost like the Wings, why can't we keep our own studs?
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St Louis has won nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Chicago is only winning because the sucked to the point of netting two top 2 picks and sucked further to get other first rounders. They hit the jackpot with two great players. Take away Kane and Toews and they're a middling team.
Islanders and a few dozen other teams always trying to stick crap to the wall.
you like to give the islanders a pass for shaky ownership, uhh yeah what did the devils go through the last few years.
I can only go by who is running the team, name names to better people to run the devils. I'm open minded and intrigued to your list.
how's st Louis doing there? such whirlbeaters winning all of those cups and parades and what not. funny, you talk of how great st. Louis rebuild is in this modern era that has past lou.
how long was Chicago a joke of a franchise? they just woke up out of a 40 plus year drought and became relevant again. good for them, it's only one of the premier media markets in the country.
in the end, I really don't care about abstract rebuilds by mmqb on message boards. what happens in reality matters and he has put this team in a position to win considering what he has to work with.
i'll take the ll era over most or all other nhl franchises situation. but that's just my opinion. I'm not as negative about ll and his reign as you seem to be and your ilk around here.
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You are right, devils cannot hold on their studs.
where have you gone, Clarkson, Gomez, Rafalski, Martin, Rupp, Parise our nation cries for you.
Only one I ever lament getting away is Niedermayer.
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Simply Not true. We had one bad year because of Johnny Mac coaching-itis. If you remember correctly, the team that was put together by Lou had an incredible run under Lemaire to close out the season. If they had made the playoffs, who knows? Last year was a lockout year where we tanked when losing Marty and Kovy, our two best players, after losing our captain and best player.
Because, er... it just isn't true? His old-school mentality is build from the goalie out. It works. He got Schneider. He has drafted Gelinas, Merrill, Larsson, Severson, Santini, Helgeson, Scarlett and Burlon. They are a work in progress.
We are losing one goal games and winning one goal games. We are 1 game under .500.
If ANYONE shows up other than Jagr on the offensive ledger, we can win a game. I guarantee you that you cannot say that with any of the teams I listed above.
Heck we lost about 5 games by blowing two goal leads.
This might be the funniest thing I've read.
So, he can't legally do anything about this right now. So, what is your point - he shouldn't have gotten Schneider? This is like saying, "Lou hasn't taken into account a potential meteor might hit the Rock. Then where would we play?"
Except a couple of goals, emotional lift to go on a winning streak and someone who hits people and frees up pucks on the forecheck. but hey.
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I love how fellow devils like to dismiss the cup run as a "fluke" to make themselves feel better on their narrative how the team sucks or they are in decline.
It reminds me of the trash talk after the devils won their "half cup" from rangers and flyers fans in 95. I don't remember that type of talk for Chicago from the devils bashers in the media and other trolls.
the hate for jannsen is pretty funny, the guy is on a two way deal and it's not like he's making anyone of note really sit.
I don't have a problem with stating that harrold/gionta have overplayed but pete has cut back harrold's minutes must of gotten a honing pigeon from the geezer stating for him to do it.
It reminds me of the trash talk after the devils won their "half cup" from rangers and flyers fans in 95. I don't remember that type of talk for Chicago from the devils bashers in the media and other trolls.
the hate for jannsen is pretty funny, the guy is on a two way deal and it's not like he's making anyone of note really sit.
I don't have a problem with stating that harrold/gionta have overplayed but pete has cut back harrold's minutes must of gotten a honing pigeon from the geezer stating for him to do it.
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What, like Ryan Suter?
These aren't RFAs we can match - they are UFAs, who can go wherever the wind will take them.
Who exactly did we lose, and miss, that was on the fault of the GM?
Gionta, Gomez, Holik, Clarkson etc - were all calculated bullet dodging. They weren't worth the money.
Rafalski, Madden etc were almost finished in this league - although those would be the only two I would make a case for.
Niedermayer, Parise, and Kovy WENT HOME!
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The devils have let signficant assets leave for nothing. Zilch. Nada. That's where the blame lies. The 'genius' with his backward negotiating skills lets premium talent leave, despite knowing that New Jersey is considered a secondary market for NHL talent. You don't have to be a veritable rocket scientist to deduct that devil players reaching free agency are most likely going to depart. But don't tell Lou this. The 71 year old sage knows all!
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not saying he should be there on a nightly basis.
Was it a bad callup at the time?
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The cup run wasn't a fluke but the core pieces of that team are long gone.
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With Gelly, Merrill, Boucher and Schneid's on the ice tonight, I don't see Lou being so much on the hot seat.
Yes 2 bad seasons in the last 3, yes no cup in 10, and yeah spinning wheels so far this year, but he still has 3 cups in his pocket, a Finals appearance 2 years ago and a solid foundation going fwd.
Yes 2 bad seasons in the last 3, yes no cup in 10, and yeah spinning wheels so far this year, but he still has 3 cups in his pocket, a Finals appearance 2 years ago and a solid foundation going fwd.
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Ok -
You trade your captain Parise mid-season and we don't get within a couple of games of winning the cup. Explain why to your fanbase, who believes he is coming back.
Ok-
You trade Kovy to ?? and the newly signed Devil-for-life contract because you think he's going to retire, and after all, we probably don't need his scoring. He then retires. What does the NHL do other than launch a probe to see if you had a priori knowledge of his planned retirement which would probably result in us losing more draft picks.
Ok-
You trade Clarkson because...aw heck...
What would you have done differently? The answer is- nothing.
you like to use a lot of hyperbole, it's ok you don't like lou and you don't have to. keep painting a picture of how nj is this secondary place or even hockey purgatory. all the more reason for a gm like lou. nj is what it is as a franchise, they play in the shadows of three other franchises and probably should existed as a team. nj hockey market they play is a better Hartford.
you are right, all pending ufas have bolted.
thanks to your kurt flood for that.
you are right, lou should of traded parise for futures prior to going to the playoffs a few seasons back or any season because after all he was leaving.
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Yeah- In a vacuum he's a terrible hockey player.
At the time, they said they were missing 'an element' - I think they were right. That line won three games for them - although Carter probably had the most to do with that.
If you can't admit his entrance to the lineup and goal scoring didn't give the team a lift at all, well... ok.
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I wasn't specifically discussing the Parise situation. But it's always the same nonsense from the guy who erroneously thinks he's a player away from the SCF.
The devils aren't a big market team that can watch players that they developed, walk away with nothing in return. That's the issue. Lou lets talent walk away, instead of converting it into something tangible. Wasting resources in this league will come back to bite you. That I can you assure you.
Could we have gotten something for Clarkson in his final year here? That's one I could have seen done. Writing was on the wall with him. Toronto was going to overpay.
Should he have seen that Kovy was going to bolt mid-contract? I can't fault him for that. But laying that contract out there which resulted in the loss of picks is on Lou. People like to blame Kovy for that one, but that is one Lou.
Stunk that we lost him, but I can't argue with how it was handled. With the injury the year prior, and then the playoffs run in his final year? Puck Farise on that.
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him scoring 2 garbage goals does not mean that calling him up was a good idea.
if you drive blindfolded but manage to get home safely, it does not mean it was a good idea.
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Don't understand why you say I'm spouting nonsense.
Seems to me I made a pretty good case, and you just don't have any sort of legitimate answer for your Lou hate.
The nice thing about the Devils is that they ARE only a player or two away from a SCF every year. Granted this year it might be Crosby
The UFA hits are coming regardless. I don't know what the percentage of players resign with their current teams, but I think that the Devils have a MUCH higher percentage of players that have played their career here than any other team in the league.
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Poor example. Not seeing the road does not help you get home. Those goals did help us win games.
Lou caught lightning in a bottle it worked. Agree it's time to put that bottle back in the cupboard, but it most def worked at the time of the callup.
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