Is it time for Lou to get his walking papers

[Wingman77]

Chris is probably the last person on Earth that I would want to replace Lou with by the way.

Why?

 

[billingtons ghost]

Please open your eyes, yes 15 games this season but a continuation of last season. Neither is acceptable. Scoring has been an issue for the NJ Devils how many years? In consistency has been an issues for the NJ Devils for how many years. I say since 2005. The goaltending and defense has saved many a game during that 7 years spread and some luck with the shoot outs and that's not hockey that's entertainment to get the game over early.

Scoring has been an issue for the NJ Devils even when we lead the league in scoring. So- you're GM now - answer the question:
What do you do?

He went out and got:
Ryder (sniper)
Brunner (sniper)
Jagr (most goals of any active player)

That should be 75+ goals right there.

Do you think Malkin or Crosby or Tavares or Kane or Toews or the Sedins were coming here in exchange for Salvador and Tedenby?

 

[billingtons ghost]

Remember this guy?

I seem to remember an albatross contract....

Uh, 2.5m a year at the age of 32 isn't really an albatross. We bought him out - so, yeah, not a _great_ contract, but THAT is what keeps you up at night looking for a Lou replacement?

 

[sbresistor]

Scoring has been an issue for the NJ Devils even when we lead the league in scoring. So- you're GM now - answer the question:
What do you do?

He went out and got:
Ryder (sniper)
Brunner (sniper)
Jagr (most goals of any active player)

That should be 75+ goals right there.

Do you think Malkin or Crosby or Tavares or Kane or Toews or the Sedins were coming here in exchange for Salvador and Tedenby?

and those 3 guys with their short term contracts are attractive to trade at the deadline if things fall apart. Lou aint no fool, playoffs would be great, but he bought some insurance in case

 

[Bleedred]

Uh, 2.5m a year at the age of 32 isn't really an albatross. We bought him out - so, yeah, not a _great_ contract, but THAT is what keeps you up at night looking for a Lou replacement?

That contract was definitely an albatross, and Jay turned 34 the year that contract started.

To be fair though, he may have been worth it had he not declined so heavily at such a young age. Wasn't in his prime anymore, but he aged about 10 years in just that one year.

 

[Bleedred]

Why?

I can't answer for BP, but I'll answer for myself. What makes people think he'd be a good NHL GM? I don't wanna take the chance. I would rather get someone with experience in there. I really don't think Chris has what it takes to be an NHL GM.


You also will probably see some of the same stuff people are getting on Lou for now. And I really don't think Chris will make up for it with all the good that his old man has done either.

 

[R8Devs]

Why?

Because there are so many better options than him-in terms of success and experience. This does not need to be a family organization. It's not like Albany does well enough in development or on-ice success to warrant Chris to become an NHL gm.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Just for fun - here are the top 10 GMs from 2007 according to the all-knowing hockey news:

1. Brian Burke <Ducks> crash and burn. went on to better things with Phil Kessel
2. Lou
3. Ken Holland (well duh)
4. Bob Gainey <habs> fired Julien. made a mess of the habs.
5. Darryl Sutter - flames are just a model franchise after his tenure.
6. Doug Riseborough - fired for Fletcher?
7. David Poile - still ZERO playoff success in 15years
8. Brett Hull/Les Jackson - nice pickup of Avery...
9. Doug Wilson - 10 years, nice bankroll, Thornton, Heatley, Marleau - no cups.
10. Paul Holmgren - bwahahahahhahahahhahahhahahaha

So - who is our next GM?

 

[billingtons ghost]

That contract was definitely an albatross, and Jay turned 34 the year that contract started.

To be fair though, he may have been worth it had he not declined so heavily at such a young age. Wasn't in his prime anymore, but he aged about 10 years in just that one year.

He was born in 74, and I thought that contract started in 2007 according to capgeek, so I think your #s are a little off.

That said - 2.5m for 3 years isn't a killer if his decline isn't so bad.

I'd liken it to the Salvador ThankYou contract, which I should have added to the list.

 

[apice3*]

I really don't think Chris has what it takes to be an NHL GM.

Based on what?

 

[glenwo2]

Uh, 2.5m a year at the age of 32 isn't really an albatross. We bought him out - so, yeah, not a _great_ contract, but THAT is what keeps you up at night looking for a Lou replacement?

Hey Bill, no need to get all snippy.

I was merely ADDING to that "list" of yours :

So far - the 29th pick fiasco, the Clowe contract, the Rolston contract and???

You follow?

 

[Bleedred]

Because there are so many better options than him-in terms of success and experience. This does not need to be a family organization. It's not like Albany does well enough in development or on-ice success to warrant Chris to become an NHL gm.

I agree and I'm getting tired of this ''Family business'' stuff too.

 

[Bleedred]

Based on what?

I just do not believe he has what it takes, but even if he does, I don't wanna find it. He could very well have what it takes? Has he really done anything to warrant being an NHL GM? If you really believe he has what it takes then I'd like to hear why.

I don't want him though. Like EliasR8 said, we should have better options. Why let Chris take over? You'll continue to see a lot of the things that people are complaining about Lou. And he probably won't make up for it by doing good things that Lou does either.

 

[apice3*]

I just do not believe he has what it takes, but even if he does, I don't wanna find it. He could very well have what it takes? Has he really done anything to warrant being an NHL GM? If you really believe he has what it takes then I'd like to hear why.

I don't want him though. Like EliasR8 said, we should have better options. Why let Chris take over? You'll continue to see a lot of the things that people are complaining about Lou. And he probably won't make up for it by doing good things that Lou does either.

I don't know if he'd be a good GM but I'm not passionately in favor or against it. I know for a fact that he's been trained by one of the best ever for a long time which is a lot better than some random schmuck that Harris might eventually hire.

 

[Bleedred]

I don't know if he'd be a good GM but I'm not passionately in favor or against it. I know for a fact that he's been trained by one of the best ever for a long time which is a lot better than some random schmuck that Harris might eventually hire.

I think if Lou really is pushed out or ''Retired'' by ownership (And I don't think he will be. Or at least I don't think he's in danger of it yet) then Harris and Blitzer likely won't promote Chris.

I'm not sure who they'd bring it. Like I said though, I honestly don't believe we're near the point that they're considering relieving Lou.

 

[glenwo2]

Random Schmuck = Hugh Weber.


Point taken.

 

[NJDevs26]

I can't answer for BP, but I'll answer for myself. What makes people think he'd be a good NHL GM? I don't wanna take the chance. I would rather get someone with experience in there. I really don't think Chris has what it takes to be an NHL GM.


You also will probably see some of the same stuff people are getting on Lou for now. And I really don't think Chris will make up for it with all the good that his old man has done either.

When does nepotism ever work in sports management anyway? It hasn't panned out with the Steinbrenner or Wilpon owners in baseball. It didn't pan out with Weeb Ewbank promoting his son-in-law to be the Jet head coach way back when.

 

[Benedict Parisechuk]

When does nepotism ever work in sports management anyway? It hasn't panned out with the Steinbrenner or Wilpon owners in baseball. It didn't pan out with Weeb Ewbank promoting his son-in-law to be the Jet head coach way back when.

I mean the whole "lets keep it in the family" thing is cool to an extent but hiring Chris would be WAY to big of a decision to stick with the family mantra. Its one thing to bring in Anthony Brodeur, Darcy Zajac, Mike Pandolfo, Jordan Parise, and Stephen Gionta but its a WHOLE new ballpark when talking about someone who would run the team. I cannot imagine whatever type of experience he has would be transferable to the NHL. Not that I want Harris picking some jabroni off the street that he barely knows but I think a meeting of the minds between everyone (Lou, Harris, Blitzer, etc.) would have to take, place assuming it gets discussed at some point and Lou doesn't get ****canned, which I don't even think Harris would do in the first place but who knows.

 

[apice3*]

When does nepotism ever work in sports management anyway? It hasn't panned out with the Steinbrenner or Wilpon owners in baseball. It didn't pan out with Weeb Ewbank promoting his son-in-law to be the Jet head coach way back when.

You can throw the Buss's and the Lakers in there as well.

But all those names are irrelevant. Owning a team and being a GM are two different things.

 

[Wingman77]

Nobody has any idea what capabilities Chris would have as an NHL GM so to say there are better or worse options is telling us you don't know what you're talking about

Guess what guys, Lou was just some Providence college AD before he got hired, we didn't know a damn thing about how capable he was of running the on ice product of an NHL franchise

 

[Bleedred]

Nobody has any idea what capabilities Chris would have as an NHL GM so to say there are better or worse options is telling us you don't know what you're talking about

Guess what guys, Lou was just some Providence college AD before he got hired, we didn't know a damn thing about how capable he was of running the on ice product of an NHL franchise

But there are likely better options. Why should we keep this ''Family business'' stuff going? I want someone with experience. Not Chris Lamoriello.

There may be worse options, but there will likely be BETTER options when the time comes. How can you say there won't be? There's a very good chance there will be better options, depending on who's available.

So if a good established NHL GM is out of work when it's time for Lou to hang them up, would you pass on them for Chris frickin Lamoreillo?

 

[R8Devs]

You honestly don't think there are better options?

I think an assistant GM that has been part of a team that is successful for a long time and drafts well/develops players well and has players on good contracts is a good step in the right direction.(Look for someone from San Jose,Anaheim,Pittsburgh(draft well even with late picks), and even Tampa(nice stable collection of prospects and doesn't rush anyone)).

 

[billingtons ghost]

Hey Bill, no need to get all snippy.

I was merely ADDING to that "list" of yours :



You follow?

yeah, sorry glen.

 

[Wingman77]

But there are likely better options. Why should we keep this ''Family business'' stuff going? I want someone with experience. Not Chris Lamoriello.

There may be worse options, but there will likely be BETTER options when the time comes. How can you say there won't be? There's a very good chance there will be better options, depending on who's available.

So if a good established NHL GM is out of work when it's time for Lou to hang them up, would you pass on them for Chris frickin Lamoreillo?

Where did I say there wouldn't be, and how can you say there will be? Good established GMs usually aren't available, because, well they're good established GMs so banking on that is silly

We don't know if there are better options if we don't know what Chris is capable of in the NHL

Chris has been the GM of our AHL affiliate for 13 years which has allowed him around to watch plenty of varieties of young talent - to say he has no experience is once again, silly

All GMs start off somewhere, take a look where successful GMs like Ken HollandDoug Wilson, Dave Poile, and Doug Armstrong all started off - in similar roles and areas that Chris did and about all of them did not have the fortune of being surrounded by some of the best leaders in the industry

 

[Devils Dominion]

Chris L has been hated by Albany and Lowell fans for his entire tenure.