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Management Is it time for Delaware North to give the Golden Parachute to Cam Neely?

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DKH said:
There is no human who would be acceptable as Bruins GM or President

No matter who gets the job within 1 year they will be despised

Sure get rid of Sweeney - why not

An acceptable guy does not exist

Neely next to Orr was a hockey God more popular than Bergeron but as he gets older and fabs never saw him play he’s just a boob

Bergeron will age be 60 and a whole new generation will not have seen him play or barley and give 2 shits about him

This magical next guy to do everything right doesn’t exist but in your minds
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We don’t expect a magical person who will do everything right but these two, particularly Sweeny, have done very poorly. Their being former players is not really relevant either way. Cam was a godlike player; Sweeney above average but not a god; either or both could’ve been great executives (or not). The only thing that’s clear (to me) in retrospect is that they’ve not done well in their respective roles.
 
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TheReal13Linseman said:
We don’t expect a magical person who will do everything right but these two, particularly Sweeny, have done very poorly. Their being former players is not really relevant either way. Cam was a godlike player; Sweeney above average but not a god; either or both could’ve been great executives (or not). The only thing that’s clear (to me) in retrospect is that they’ve not done well in their respective roles.
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They need to be split.
 
Scouting amateur and pro has been below average to awful the last 15 years. 2015 as much as we want it to stop, set this franchise back, quite a bit. The revisionist history is just too strong.
Connor, Aho, Konecny, Chabot, Barzal, Boeser, Hintze, the hits go on and on. The 1st 2 rounds are historical for fulltime NHL'rs. Jake is decent due to his inconsistencies; Carlo is legit and now Lauzon seems to have found his ground as a full timer. But to have 2 1st round misses of that magnitude in that draft, just shows how bad our evaluation of talent has been
 
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smithformeragent said:
What does he even do?

PR? Face of the franchise?

Won’t appear on the highest rated afternoon drive radio show on the club’s flagship station.
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I think he does more than I thought he did.

As noted elsewhere, it was Cam who directed Sweeney to turf Cassidy, according to the Herald's Steve Conroy.

If you recall, Sweeney initially told Butch it was business as usual.

I don't know for certain - perhaps someone here does? - but I suspect Neely was also behind canning Claude.

I believe Cam more or less left player personnel and drafting to Sweeney and his staff, save agitating for big bodies that didn't work out.

That is, Neely issued a general edict. Sweeney whiffed.

They made the correct decision in dismissing Montgomery and giving the interim gig to Sacco who will, I believe, right the ship in the short term.

Other than that, it's time for both to be shown the door.
 
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Mad-Marcus said:
Scouting amateur and pro has been below average to awful the last 15 years. 2015 as much as we want it to stop, set this franchise back, quite a bit. The revisionist history is just too strong.
Connor, Aho, Konecny, Chabot, Barzal, Boeser, Hintze, the hits go on and on. The 1st 2 rounds are historical for fulltime NHL'rs. Jake is decent due to his inconsistencies; Carlo is legit and now Lauzon seems to have found his ground as a full timer. But to have 2 1st round misses of that magnitude in that draft, just shows how bad our evaluation of talent has been
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Pretty strong to say that a draft from nearly 10 years ago set this franchise back "quite a bit"

Since 2015...

- 1st in points
- Two President Trophy wins
- NHL record breaking season
- SCF run

That to me doesn't scream a franchise that's been set back. They've been strong contenders in almost every season. Let 2015 go already, it's done and gone.
 
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PB37 said:
Pretty strong to say that a draft from nearly 10 years ago set this franchise back "quite a bit"

Since 2015...

- 1st in points
- Two President Trophy wins
- NHL record breaking season
- SCF run

That to me doesn't scream a franchise that's been set back. They've been strong contenders in almost every season. Let 2015 go already, it's done and gone.
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agree to disagree. no pipeline of top end talent. Any those guys would be 28 YO in their prime and we would not be talking about how incomplete this roster is.
80% of my list cures the scoring issues this team has had since last year.

All your accolades were due to having guys over 30, Bergy, Rask, Krecji, Chara driving the leadership bus
 
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Mad-Marcus said:
agree to disagree. no pipeline of top end talent. Any those guys would be 28 YO in their prime and we would not be talking about how incomplete this roster is.
80% of my list cures the scoring issues this team has had since last year.

All your accolades were due to having guys over 30, Bergy, Rask, Krecji, Chara driving the leadership bus
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And any would be making upwards of 8 million and would mean that 8 million in other players would be gone.

Yes I wish they would have taken Aho in 2015, that would have changed things, but they would have been killed on the board for reaching
 
JoeIsAStud said:
And any would be making upwards of 8 million and would mean that 8 million in other players would be gone.

Yes I wish they would have taken Aho in 2015, that would have changed things, but they would have been killed on the board for reaching
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I would trade Boeser and Connor for 1/2 our team. We might or might not have one a cup with more scoring. Zacha and Coyle, there's 10, add not needing E Lindholm another ~8.
I'll always take the better players. With 6-7 6-8M higher end players you CAN fill in around them with JAGS
 
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KnightofBoston said:
If the bruins don’t at least make the second round this year, because they did last year and supposedly got better with the additions ala Sweeney

I fire Neely and Sweeney

Hire Chara as GM and Bergeron as president
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What has Chara ever done to be GM?

Bergeron as President?

I hate to tell the under 40 crowd but Neely was a better player and more popular than 37 in his hey day.

No one has ever told me when I responded in person why Neely should be fired that I didn’t think was ridiculous
 
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DKH said:
No one has ever told me when I responded in person why Neely should be fired that I didn’t think was ridiculous
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I wish Cam would go back to dealing with Felger and Mazz weekly



We are dealing with a bigger unknown—life after Papa Jacobs. No one outside their inner circle knows Jeremy's health today.
 
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TheReal13Linseman said:
We don’t expect a magical person who will do everything right but these two, particularly Sweeny, have done very poorly. Their being former players is not really relevant either way. Cam was a godlike player; Sweeney above average but not a god; either or both could’ve been great executives (or not). The only thing that’s clear (to me) in retrospect is that they’ve not done well in their respective roles.
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Simply not true.

Sweeney was only above average as a player when Bourque was his partner.
 
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DKH said:
No one has ever told me when I responded in person why Neely should be fired that I didn’t think was ridiculous
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I don't know if he should be fired. What I do "know" (i.e. believe) is that the team is not served by having two bosses. If Cam wants to be involved in hockey ops and make the final decisions, then he should also be the GM and demote Don or let him go. If he wants to keep Don as GM, then Cam should stick to PR and the business side and let Don make the final decisions.
 
DKH said:
What has Chara ever done to be GM?

Bergeron as President?

I hate to tell the under 40 crowd but Neely was a better player and more popular than 37 in his hey day.

No one has ever told me when I responded in person why Neely should be fired that I didn’t think was ridiculous
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Idk what that last sentence was all about but I think my assertion makes total sense


And then in 20 years we can hire Brad Marchand as President and Charlie McAvoy as GM

Donnie Shulzhoffer said:
Thanks for the laugh this morning
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It’s not funny man, do you not see how serious the proposal is? Are you not paying attention to how serious the decisions are that are made by the Jacobs family?

My guess is 40 years from now Brad Marchand’s sister’s Uber eats driver can run goalie conditioning after Essensa retires
 
KnightofBoston said:
Idk what that last sentence was all about but I think my assertion makes total sense


And then in 20 years we can hire Brad Marchand as President and Charlie McAvoy as GM



It’s not funny man, do you not see how serious the proposal is? Are you not paying attention to how serious the decisions are that are made by the Jacobs family?

My guess is 40 years from now Brad Marchand’s sister’s Uber eats driver can run goalie conditioning after Essensa retires
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Just what I said - ridiculous

why not Andy Brickley or Rick Middleton
 
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Dr Hook said:
I don't know if he should be fired. What I do "know" (i.e. believe) is that the team is not served by having two bosses. If Cam wants to be involved in hockey ops and make the final decisions, then he should also be the GM and demote Don or let him go. If he wants to keep Don as GM, then Cam should stick to PR and the business side and let Don make the final decisions.
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Not really how it works

Neely is Sweeney boss - he’s not day to day but part of the process

It’s quite standard

Sather, Gorton, baseball like Friedman, Dombrowski etc

Neely weighs on significant moves but he’s not discussing signing Cole Koepke - but certainly would be involved in updates of contract negotiations and big FA acquisition

How it’s done especially in baseball and hockey organizations where there are layers to this
 
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KnightofBoston said:
Idk what that last sentence was all about but I think my assertion makes total sense


And then in 20 years we can hire Brad Marchand as President and Charlie McAvoy as GM



It’s not funny man, do you not see how serious the proposal is? Are you not paying attention to how serious the decisions are that are made by the Jacobs family?

My guess is 40 years from now Brad Marchand’s sister’s Uber eats driver can run goalie conditioning after Essensa retires
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Still helping me out with the good laugh.

Why are you not bringing Dale Arnold into consideration?
 
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