Is Connor McDavid running the Oilers?

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Within the last several months, the Oilers have made some interesting moves.

1. Hiring Connor's agent as CEO of the Oilers

2. Signing Connor's Junior linemate in free agency

3. Hiring Connor's Junior coach as head coach

With these things in mind, do you think McDavid is actually the one currently running the Oilers? Or do you think these moves are all desperate attempts to get Connor to re sign with the team in a few years?

Good point, OP. I think it’s more the latter, but the result is the same, and you should never cater your company to the whims of one talent. McDavid is great, but he’s likely a managerial moron, and just like I would not suddenly specialize in the role of hockey player or astrophysicist I doubt he immediately knows how to fix this shit. So massage his ego, explain your thinking and get his input, but the way things have gone recently it seems they went all-in trying to please him, and these are the results.

We kinda did this with Eichel. We gave his buddies a shot, we listened to him on coaches, rumor has it RoR was jettisoned at Eichel’s request- 5 years later it was still a mess and Eich was still bitching about the dirty britches he’d just sullied. Don’t blame him on the neck thing, but Sabres seemingly gave in too much.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

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The light was gone the moment he found out the Oilers won the 2015 lottery.

He was one ball away from going where he always wanted to....shame...

 

[MadLuke]

That’s kind of the point. Forsberg was a highly touted prospect himself, plus Quebec got Ricci, Hextall, Duchesne, Huffman, Simon, two first round picks, and cash. The ‘93 first rounder turned into Jocelyn Thibault who was the main piece used to land Patrick Roy. The ‘94 pick was used in the big Clarke/Sundin trade which later led to the Clarke/Lemieux/Thomas three-way trade. Moral of the story, trading McDavid could be a blessing.

A lot of the hype around Forsberg was post trade, he was your regular first round pick at the moment of the trade.

The draft pick was surprising because Forsberg was expected to be selected later in the draft. The Hockey News had ranked Forsberg as the 25th best draft prospect in its 1991 draft preview, saying he was "a solid second rounder who could move into the first."[14] The pick was criticized by the Philadelphia media, prompting Flyers' General Manager Russ Farwell and the team's chief European scout Inge Hammarström to reply that time would prove them right

The trade was june 30 1992, before his first big season with Modo, way before his legendary world junior or the Olympic.

With modern cap-rules I am not sure if that kind of trades work. Non ELC type contract would pretty much always look terrible for the Oilers, you need to send bad contract with McDavid to make room for the incoming player. And the Oilers were a 104-109 pts the last 2 seasons, losing to the cup winner 2 years in a row, they are in winning the cup mode unlike Quebec at the time that loved draft pick and prospect.

 

[Sniper99]

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The light was gone the moment he found out the Oilers won the 2015 lottery.

These stupid takes again?

 

[Sniper99]

he's lebron without the rings

Hes not.
Lebron could at least attract big FA names to come here. Getting guys like Connor Brown of all players who didnt cut it anywhere else isnt the same.

 

[Terry Yake]

Hes not.
Lebron could at least attract big FA names to come here. Getting guys like Connor Brown of all players who didnt cut it anywhere else isnt the same.

big difference between NBA and NHL in terms of the cap though. much harder for NHL teams to sign big names

 

[Sniper99]

He was one ball away from going where he always wanted to....shame...

Are you still stuck in 2015? Move on

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Someone has to, since management isn't interested.

Or maybe you just can't win committing almost 30 million to 3 players?

 

[Cursed Lemon]

Or maybe you just can't win committing almost 30 million to 3 players?

Or

And hear me out

Ken Holland

 

[Gabe Kupari]

Hes not.
Lebron could at least attract big FA names to come here. Getting guys like Connor Brown of all players who didnt cut it anywhere else isnt the same.

LeBron = Los Angeles
McDavid = Edmonton

Don't think location plays a role? Think again

Or

And hear me out

Ken Holland

Weren't winning b4 Holland. He's not the problem

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Is The Pope Catholic?

Does a bear $h** in the woods?

 

[Sniper99]

big difference between NBA and NHL in terms of the cap though. much harder for NHL teams to sign big names

I get that and its too bad NHL cant re-work some contracts like nfl and nba to free up cap space. Im sure Nurse would re-work his 9 mill/yr contract if it meant bringing in some help on the blueline but it is what it is and hes enjoying that 9 mill

 

[Sniper99]

LeBron = Los Angeles
McDavid = Edmonton

Don't think location plays a role? Think again

Lebron = Cleveland

he managed to attract players to Cleveland of all places and they won. Players ended up biting the bullet and went on to win a championship with the best player in the game in Cleveland. Im sure players would love to play with McDavid too even if it meant freezIng their ass off for 6 months in Edmonton.

Think again

 

[x Tame Impala]

I keep reading this thread title as "Is Connor McDavid RUINING the Oilers?"

 

[Soundwave]

Hes not.
Lebron could at least attract big FA names to come here. Getting guys like Connor Brown of all players who didnt cut it anywhere else isnt the same.

LeBron hasn’t attracted that many big name UFAs.

Anthony Davis was acquired via trade, past that the Lakers haven’t like signed a real “star” player.

 

[Terry Yake]

LeBron hasn’t attracted that many big name UFAs.

Anthony Davis was acquired via trade, past that the Lakers haven’t like signed a real “star” player.

true for LA, but i think that poster is talking about lebron in miami and his second stint with cleveland where you had a lot of guys signing with those teams to ring chase. not always star players, but role guys who played key roles on title winning teams

 

[Soundwave]

true for LA, but i think that poster is talking about lebron in miami and his second stint with cleveland where you had a lot of guys signing with those teams to ring chase. not always star players, but role guys who played key roles on title winning teams

I mean Miami added mostly role players, in Cleveland they already had Kyrie and then traded for Kevin Love.

It's actually not that dissimilar, the Oilers have added Zack Hyman and Evander Kane as UFAs, in the NBA that would be sorta like adding a 19-20 ppg scorer and a 15-18 ppg big. Duncan Keith waived for Edmonton too, which is kind of like an aging Ray Allen signing with Miami (granted Keith to hockey was a better player in his prime than Allen was to the NBA).

The Oilers main issues are the management has been lazy in spending enough to make sure the D and goaltending is up to snuff.

 

[Terry Yake]

I mean Miami added mostly role players, in Cleveland they already had Kyrie and then traded for Kevin Love.

It's actually not that dissimilar, the Oilers have added Zack Hyman and Evander Kane as UFAs, in the NBA that would be sorta like adding a 19-20 ppg scorer and a 15-18 ppg big. Duncan Keith waived for Edmonton too, which is kind of like an aging Ray Allen signing with Miami (granted Keith to hockey was a better player in his prime than Allen was to the NBA).

The Oilers main issues are the management has been lazy in spending enough to make sure the D and goaltending is up to snuff.

true, but those guys like ray allen, rashard lewis, mike miller, and shane battier were all key to the heat 2012 and 2013 titles. those cavs teams added a number of role guys too but that 2016 title was mostly lebron

but yeah, the oilers problem is that they're the oilers. same thing you've seen with the angels since they got ohtani. they'll make a good signing here and there but then completely ignore the main issues (in the angels case, pitching)

 

[Soundwave]

true, but those guys like ray allen, rashard lewis, mike miller, and shane battier were all key to the heat 2012 and 2013 titles. those cavs teams added a number of role guys too but that 2016 title was mostly lebron

but yeah, the oilers problem is that they're the oilers. same thing you've seen with the angels since they got ohtani. they'll make a good signing here and there but then completely ignore the main issues (in the angels case, pitching)

The difference in this analogy really is that goaltending has an outsized impact in hockey whereas that position doesn't exist in basketball.

And in that respect, the Oilers management have not been serious enough in addressing that position specifically.

 

[Crosby2010]

I know he denied he had anything to do with the coaching change (his old OHL coach coming in). But I think the Oilers are just making sure he's happy. I might actually believe him that he didn't actively go to Holland and say "Get rid of Jay and bring in someone I am comfortable with". So I can buy that, but I think they are just trying to keep him happy either way.

 

[Tob]

Connor Brown's $3.225M bonus kicks in with one more game played according to capfriendly. He's injured right now but boy, that's an absolute gut kick for next season.