Is Cale Makar a generational talent?

[VivaLasVegas]

Is Cale Makar a generational talent?


Only if he uses a big part of his salary to invest in wind farms.

 

[JackSlater]

When it comes to generational talent I expect to see some kind of noteworthy precocious talent years before the player reaches the NHL, especially in these days when it's so easy to share information. Makar isn't that, but he does look like he could potentially become the best defenceman in the NHL and that's not so bad.

 

[Pavels Dog]

I want to see him play at least one full season first.

 

[I am toxic]

He's only finished two seasons but 94pts in 101 GP is beyond impressive. Also not to mention 31 pts in 35 playoff games. Not many defenseman put up those numbers this young, not even a rookie Erik Karlsson. So that makes me ask if you consider him to be a generational talent?

Yes, without a doubt.

However there are too many trolls from HP* Boards here, so it will take a decade or two before it gets generally acknowledged.


*Hockey's Past

 

[wintersej]

2015-2018 drafts have a LOT of good young D. As good a group as I can remember coming in at the same time since the 80s/90s golden era.

But young defenseman development curves are not always linear. Makar is a play driver that can put up points, and he plays a lot of minutes with some real elite talent. He isn't as good in his own end as several of his contemporaries (Miro, McAvoy or Fox for starters) and his offensive numbers aren't head and shoulders above his contemporaries either. Even some one like McAvoy who is viewed more as a defensive two way guy only had one fewer 5 on 5 point than Makar last season.

It's entirely too early to be asking this question.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Adam Fox won the Norris, Victor Hedman is generally considered the best defenseman in the game and someone is asking if Cale Makar is a generational talent???

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Not close

 

[wetcoast]

No, and let's wait until he wins at least one Hart trophy before we start discussing it.

That's an unfair bar don't you think?

Dmen seldom win the hart perhaps in part to voters thinking that the Norris already exists.

I don't like the term generational talent but instead think that the start of Makars NHL career is in the top 1% of Dmen in history and that's simply exceptional.

 

[wetcoast]

Adam Fox won the Norris, Victor Hedman is generally considered the best defenseman in the game and someone is asking if Cale Makar is a generational talent???

Quick name the Dmen in the NHL who had a better start to their first 2 NHL season or first 3 years in the playoffs or by age 22?

 

[tucker3434]

Adam Fox won the Norris, Victor Hedman is generally considered the best defenseman in the game and someone is asking if Cale Makar is a generational talent???

Everyone is aware Makar runs away with the Norris if he didn’t miss 12 games, right? That he was an easy 2nd place while missing 20% of the season is kind of insane.

The generational stuff is a bit of a reach right now but he I think it’s entirely plausible he’s this generation’s Karlsson which is pretty high praise.

 

[Chrisinroch]

You’re joking, right?

 

[Artanis]

lmaooo WHAT

 

[Killer Orcas]

He's on that trajectory but let's see him do this over a full season or two more and then I'm ready to decide.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Not yet generational, he could get there with multiple Noriss’s

 

[Asinine]

For a league with a "talent shortage crisis" it sure has a lot of players being questioned as generational.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Everyone is aware Makar runs away with the Norris if he didn’t miss 12 games, right? That he was an easy 2nd place while missing 20% of the season is kind of insane.

The generational stuff is a bit of a reach right now but he I think it’s entirely plausible he’s this generation’s Karlsson which is pretty high praise.

A conveniently overlooked fact for people that view a player as nothing special if they don’t win a major award.

 

[Golden_Jet]

A conveniently overlooked fact for people that view a player as nothing special if they don’t win a major award.

Generational players win major awards, franchise players don’t or win one or two.
There are very few generational players.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Generational players win major awards, franchise players don’t or maybe win one.

See above for my thoughts on generational players. That’s McDavid.

Just seems weird to dismiss Makar’s chances at being the top defender of his generation. Not saying it’s going to happen, but it’s certainly possible with the way he’s started his career.

 

[Golden_Jet]

See above for my thoughts on generational players. That’s McDavid.

Just seems weird to dismiss Makar’s chances at being the top defender of his generation. Not saying it’s going to happen, but it’s certainly possible with the way he’s started his career.

Okay now we agree, that’s why I said not now, but could get there with some Norris wins.
Yes Karlsson won 2 and finished second twice.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Generational has become the most over used word on HF.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

A conveniently overlooked fact for people that view a player as nothing special if they don’t win a major award.

It's not a fact. It's conjecture.

 

[SUX2BU]

Generational

 

[T REX]

absolutely not

 

[Three On Zero]

A generation is considered a 20-30 year period, is Makar one of the best defenceman over the last 30 years? No

 

[93LEAFS]

That's an unfair bar don't you think?

Dmen seldom win the hart perhaps in part to voters thinking that the Norris already exists.

I don't like the term generational talent but instead think that the start of Makars NHL career is in the top 1% of Dmen in history and that's simply exceptional.

No, generational means best player of a generation. That needs to be reflected through things like Hart and Lindsey wins. It should be blatantly obvious multiple times they are the best player in the league.