Is Cale Makar a generational talent?

[Jumptheshark]

No.
Can't have 10 generational talents in one generation.

People seem not to realize that

 

[Chimpradamus]

Amazing start to his career but there hasn't been a generational talent on defence since Orr. Its a high bar.

If the bar is set that high, I guess there hasn't been a generational talent on forward since Gretzky either.

 

[theslatcher]

Those are EK65 numbers, actually. EK65's U22-U23 seasons he had 92 points in 99 games. Practically identical ppg's, Makar played in seasons that had an increase of ~.26 gpg compared to the ones EK65 played in, though.

 

[mattihp]

Mike Green's two best seasons

143gp
50g
99 assists
149 points

He was well into his career though and Makar might be slightly better defensively.

Not generational yet. Three-four seasons whilst keeping it up and not imploding though..

 

[HockeyWooot]

I’d say he has the potential and if he continues to develop he’s on the right trajectory.

For example Mike Green had two consecutive seasons over PPG. Hes had a great career overall but I don’t think he’s in the discussion as top Dman from his era.

Not saying Makar is Mike Green, just need to hold off anointing these titles after a short sample size.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

It depends, is he a "two-way" player and is he the "most valuable" to his team?

I don't think most consider him better than MacKinnon.

 

[chauron]

No, I don’t think he’s clearly better than rest of the players of his generation.

Unless we make the scope smaller and speak of ”generational defenseman” but that waters it down a lot. He can become the latter if he continues to develop further.

 

[Tryblot]

Generational? No, because that’s McDavid.

Generational defenceman? Possibly. He and a few others will probably be in the mix for that distinction.

If he and a few others are in the mix then no one is in the the mix.

 

[Murzu]

he does look like a Auston Matthews playing at defense so I'd say yes

He looks like MacKinnon playing defense.

Don't think he will be generational. Just absolutely elite player. There haven't been that many generational players in the league's history.

 

[Murzu]

Amazing start to his career but there hasn't been a generational talent on defence since Orr. Its a high bar.

Lidström was closest to being generational since Orr. But I agree.

 

[PaulD]

Couple Norris trophies in his future for sure.

 

[Goulet17]

Lidström was closest to being generational since Orr. But I agree.

If Lidstrom is not considered generational, then you have to seriously debate whether Crosby/Ovechkin/McDavid should be considered generational. You really cannot have any defensemen that qualify as generational in the future if Lidstrom is not considered to have reached that level.

 

[Conbon]

He's on track but not there yet. The fact he's solid defensively certainly helps.

 

[Beville]

Lol,

no.

not even close.

(hint. Give it 10+ years of dominance).

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

If he and a few others are in the mix then no one is in the the mix.

That’s how these things work. They’re not predetermined.

 

[avsfan9]

Given that the media hypes 1-2 generational players every draft then yes he is. To be serious though he is the best d man to come into the league since EK and if he keeps it up he will be the second best player in the league as soon as next season and that’s pretty good as no one is going to de throne Mcdavid for at least another 5+ years.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Given that the media hypes 1-2 generational players every draft then yes he is. To be serious though he is the best d man to come into the league since EK and if he keeps it up he will be the second best player in the league as soon as next season and that’s pretty good as no one is going to de throne Mcdavid for at least another 5+ years.

Do you really believe this?

 

[ER89]

Man he is so f***ing good. Its unfair that the avs have mack and makar at the same time.

 

[Ararana]

Way too early to tell and probably shouldn’t be discussed until the twilight of his career. Really depends on if he can continue to elevate himself even more than he already is over Hughes/Fox/etc.

I do think Makar is considerably better than his defensive peers and could challenge MacKinnon for the best player on the Avs real soon.

 

[North Cole]

That’s how these things work. They’re not predetermined.

I dont think they are saying its predetermined. Just that if multiple people are in the running for "generational" then they haven't actually separated themselves from each other and thus none of them are generational.

It should be almost self evident that a player is generational, if there is confusion about it, then they probably weren't.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I dont think they are saying its predetermined. Just that if multiple people are in the running for "generational" then they haven't actually separated themselves from each other and thus none of them are generational.

It should be almost self evident that a player is generational, if there is confusion about it, then they probably weren't.

Like I said before, the only true generational talent is McDavid.

But, if you’re expanding to ‘generational defenceman’ then sure, Makar has a shot at that. It’s pretty hard to completely separate from the pack in two seasons. These are things you have to look back at ten years down the road.

 

[BLNY]

I heard his mother was.

Seriously, it would be great to end the use of a word that has become nothing but a cliche.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

No, Dahlin is the generational defender of this generation.

 

[DueDiligence]

Generational Talent
something or someone that is so good that someone/thing equal in quality only comes around a few times in a generation

generation
noun
a period of about 25 to 30 years, in which most human babies become adults and have their own children: ( and in hockey lets reduce that to 10 years)

Next time do the math!

 

[AvroArrow]

He has a damn good start, but still too early. If he maintains this level of play or even plays better for the next decade + you can probably say he's generational. But still extremely early, some guys have massive drop offs later on.