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Yep, also known as "referred" pain.. Although the pain is referred back if placed close enough to the actual concussed body part. Thus a transient concussed groin is most likely in Clowe's case...
Injury Report: Injury Thread Pt. II (Del Zotto has surgery to repair sports hernia)
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Yep, also known as "referred" pain.. Although the pain is referred back if placed close enough to the actual concussed body part. Thus a transient concussed groin is most likely in Clowe's case...
If he really is having concussion problems, I recon that last hit could have given him another one a la Pat Lafontaine and Eric Lindros got theirs, but was there even contact with his head? Looked like he jus went into the boards. Normally you need to get hit in the jaw area to get a concussion...
Not true at all. Head, yes. Jaw? Not necessarily. To me, it seemed like he hit the head pretty hard against the glass on the Chimera hit. But who knows.
Either way, its clear we're not going to get any information on this (I'm not complaining) -- so I'm sure the only way we find out any new information is by stalking their practices to see who skates or waiting until game night.
cd211
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Clowe seemed to mess up his wrist or hand area, to me at least thats what it seemed like...
MCD his visor seemed to hit first and it pushed his helmet forward where the visor then nailed his face/eye area.. shouldve been a charge/boarding penalty but whatevs as long as hes ok.. and playing
Easy schedule this week helps players get healthy. Good that this team has a lot of depth. Fortunately, unlike the Bruins defense, all of our injuries aren't in one position.
Nah, "normally" that is definitely true.
It takes alot more force to the back/side of the head than it takes to the jaw to cause a concussion. A blow to the tip of the chin is lethal.
Of course any player can get a concussion from a huge blow to the back of the head.
But normally its only the players with really severe concussion problems who get concussions from more or less normal (lack of better word) blows to the head in any area other than the chin. If this is Clowe's second concussion in two weeks, and he got em from the hits we have seen, I am afraid that there are huge concerns about his health.
Tawnos
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Concussions have to do with the brain rattling around inside of the skull due to the force of the impact. It doesn't matter much where on the head the hit occurs.
Clowes Line
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Hell you don't even need to be hit in the head in order to sustain a concussion. Whiplash.
Yes it does.
First of all, its extremely obvious following a sport like hockey. If the jaw/chin is caught by a shoulder/elbow, people are knocked cold. If someone is hit anywhere else in the head, 19/20 times there are no problems.
I played hockey until I was 21 y/o. I played in a men's league from when I was 16. Besides hurting my ears maybe, I never even felt pain from hits to the head anywhere but the jaw. And you have players falling on your head quite often in the game and what not (hitting the board head first with the top of your head when hit from behind etc), but then you where caught on the chin (and it didn't need to be particularly hard) and it was lights out and head ache for two weeks.
So there is definitely an enourmous diffrence betwee being hit in the jaw or like being hit to the side/back of the head. You have the helm protecting the rest of the head and it absorbs/spreads some of the impact, and;
Second of all, the explanation I've heard numerous times from doctors is basically that the jaw is pushed back into the brain somehow.
Just google:
In short, if you are hit to other parts of the head, you need the head to litterary move very fast and violently, but if you are hit to the jaw you just need enough force to slam the jaw back against the brain and that jaw isn't that strong...
That is true for sure, but you especially see people with concusssion problems suffer from these milder types of concussions. I definitely think they contribute largely to the concussion problems in hockey. IE, the "three" major concussions a player have had in themselves might not have done all that much damage, but besides those three you probably have 3 000 impacts that impacted the brain with some type of energy level and the 3 + 3 000 results in the problems we hear about.
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Miamipuck
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Geez getting hit square in the temple or back of the head is worse than getting hit in the jaw. There is more danger to your brain from those type of shots than the jaw. I don't see how that is even an argument. The problem with a jaw hit is the whiplash effect is significantly greater.
watching the livestream of Rangers practice:http://blueshirtsunited.com/videos/...&utm_content=facebook_1368633896#.UZO0YYJMbbQ
i don't see any sign of staal. any updates?
i don't see any sign of staal. any updates?
clowns in management decided to rush him to the lineup again. even if staal wanted in, you don't put someone with bad vision out there on the ice. this is worst case scenario. brutal.
Just saying what I heard Staal suffered a conclusion when hit in the eye. The injury to the eye is a day to day hour to hour injury some days he feels and sees normal then in a blink no pun intended it gets blurry which triggers headaches... Staal may at this point be damaged goods.. Total shame
The Lunatic Fridge
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Hopefully these past few days have let a guy like Nash heal the nagging injuries whatever they may be.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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At what point does it stand to reason that Staal not playing is not solely because of his eye injury?
dave mahoney said on hockeycentral that he believes nash is not injured since he took part in back to back optional skates
also said staal might not be back soon, never know with these things but he said probably not, atleast for the first part of the series
also said staal might not be back soon, never know with these things but he said probably not, atleast for the first part of the series
there is zero reason to think it has anything to do with anything besides the eye. if he can't see right, then he can't see right. the game he played he got creamed on one hit where it sure looked like he didn't see the guy coming from that side
Looks like the concussion rumors were true I guess about Staal.
If it was still his eye then he could still be skating and staying in shape.
If it was still his eye then he could still be skating and staying in shape.
pld459666
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sucks about Staal and Clowe, but I'm fine with no Powe in the line up.
While decent defensively, he's an absolute nothing offensively and is no causes for concern in that regards when he's on the ice.
At least with Asham, he's got a good shot and has the size that when he goes to the net he disrupts things.
While decent defensively, he's an absolute nothing offensively and is no causes for concern in that regards when he's on the ice.
At least with Asham, he's got a good shot and has the size that when he goes to the net he disrupts things.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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Zero reason? A guy who has had a history with concussions who took a huge hit and there's zero reason to believe its something more than the eye? If it's just the eye, why isn't he skating?
Callafan24
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Speculation is one thing, but it is also a fact that Marc Staal went from skating hard every day and 'feeling good enough to contribute' for Game 3, to not skating in practice at all. He took a huge hit to the back of the head and this club doesn't disclose concussions so they would never reveal the extent of his, Clowe's, and Powe's injuries. I'm not saying all three are definitely concussed but ****, do the math.
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To me, Staal's concussion experience makes it less likely that he would play the rest of the game and participate in practices if he suffered a concussion.
