GDT: Informative March Game Day

[Stickpucker]

Work 1/3 the day get full day pay eh?

 

[Stickpucker]

Thanks for the point Antti.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Let’s regroup and bring the ruckus to the Caps Thursday!

 

[surfzone365]

I’m a little less pissed off now. We got a point on not our best night. At this stage of the season, just get points and we did that tonight.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Weird game. Obviously, we weren't overly invested in the game. A lot of turnovers, including one that led to the game-tying goal.

And then a Too Many Men call in OT? How does that even happen (hypothetical question: I saw it). And it's unfortunate, because the refs weren't calling anything in the 3rd or OT, so that was the only way we would end up shorthanded.

Our scoring depth needs to show up again. Guys like Necas, Neiderreiter and Jarvis need to step their games up. Or, at the very least, not kill the play the minute it hits their stick.

Someone else handle the next GDT. I'm drained.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

If I'm not mistaken, Necas was the last person on the team that really possessed the puck tonight (not Raanta freezing or us dumping out on the PK).

If so, I think this is 2 or 3 games in a row where he's the last Cane to touch the puck when we lose in OT. Which is eye opening when we only have 5 OTL this year.

Technically, it was Slavin who last touched it. Larkin attempted to shoot the puck, Slavin blocked it, it bounced back to Larkin who passed it to the other point man, who shot it, Bertuzzi on the rebound, then Raymond into the yawning net.

 

[HurricaneFanatic]

What an annoying loss!

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I think we have to tailor our expectations of Nino if he is going to be stapled to Staal. The possession hogging is their role, reliable scoring isn’t

 

[The S5]

I'm sorry but Necas is becoming a problem this year. He's a walking turnover in overtime, every time he gets the puck the other team ends up with it shortly thereafter. It happens every game.

He's always had this issue. It gets masked by his occasional highlight reel play. Seems like he's trying to handle the puck in a way that his body can't support.
Also, Skjei has been a pretty good player for the Canes, but he may want to spend less time working on his golf game and more time working on his puck handling.

 

[hblueridgegal]

Most of these guys had Covid this year and a few have had concussions, too - not all that shocking that they may have some lingering brain fog and lower energy from time to time. Even with mild cases, it takes about 7-8 months to clear out.

Plus, Detroit has given them problems for a while now.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Bright side is I thought Jordan had a good game. He lost some key faceoffs and was only 45% which is not great for him, but that being said I felt he was playing a little more like his old self. The goal he scored was at least not a fluke.

 

[Canes]

He's always had this issue. It gets masked by his occasional highlight reel play. Seems like he's trying to handle the puck in a way that his body can't support.
Also, Skjei has been a pretty good player for the Canes, but he may want to spend less time working on his golf game and more time working on his puck handling.

I think sometimes his hands and/or mind struggle to keep up with his electric skating ability. If he can harness that and play more consistently, he will be a good player. Still way too early to give up on him though.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

What is Rod's problem with Kotkaniemi? And at the same time, his love affair with goddamn Jordan Martinook?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

What is Rod's problem with Kotkaniemi? And at the same time, his love affair with goddamn Jordan Martinook?

Kotkaniemi has tried twice to be a LW and it hasn’t worked out.

 

[Svechhammer]

Kotkaniemi has tried twice to be a LW and it hasn’t worked out.

Why are we even trying him at wing? He's plenty capable at Centering that 4th line. And if he's centering that 4th line, they shouldn't be getting 8 mins a night

 

[Stickpucker]

I think Nino Kokomiami Jarvis could be a solid line to give more minutes to then run Marty party Staal Fast. Treat both as 3rd lines and give equal minutes.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Why are we even trying him at wing? He's plenty capable at Centering that 4th line. And if he's centering that 4th line, they shouldn't be getting 8 mins a night

He's better than Stepan, but Stepan is a pretty solid 4C option. That gives us the ability to play Kotkaniemi up in the lineup, where he can play more minutes with better linemates. And in turn it allows us to only need to play the 4th line 8 minutes a night, which keeps guys like Martinook and Lorentz in their lane.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Kotkaniemi needs to play more!!!

We need another quality skating/scoring forward in our top 6 & Martinook is just not it.

Martinook is a great teammate but his play this year is substandard.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I think Nino Kokomiami Jarvis could be a solid line to give more minutes to then run Marty party Staal Fast. Treat both as 3rd lines and give equal minutes.

Agree, though that means 2nd line Lorentz, which isn't necessarily terrible definitely better than 2nd line Martinook... 60 minutes to split up, to make the math simple I'm ignoring ST but yes that'll factor in. Target something like:

SAT: 19 min.
Lorentz/Tro/Necas: 17 min.
NN/JK/Jarvy: 12 min.
Marty/Staal/Fast: 12 min.

 

[Svechhammer]

Agree, though that means 2nd line Lorentz, which isn't necessarily terrible definitely better than 2nd line Martinook... 60 minutes to split up, to make the math simple I'm ignoring ST but yes that'll factor in. Target something like:

SAT: 19 min.
Lorentz/Tro/Necas: 17 min.
NN/JK/Jarvy: 12 min.
Marty/Staal/Fast: 12 min.

I mean... this probably should be the lineup we run every night anyway. Marty/Staal/Fast isn't a typical energy line that you expect out of the 4th line, but they'd be damn good defensively and would match up well against any top line that others throw at us. The rest would be 3 quality lines that should be able to drive offensive play when they're on the ice. This would basically give us a legit elite 1st line, a high level 2nd line, a low 2nd/very high 3rd line, and a defensively dominant 4th. Not many teams would be able to match that.

 

[HisIceness]

I didn't watch. It looks like Rants played his ass off and TT hit the post in OT from what I'm reading.

Take the point and move on to the next one.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

I mean... this probably should be the lineup we run every night anyway. Marty/Staal/Fast isn't a typical energy line that you expect out of the 4th line, but they'd be damn good defensively and would match up well against any top line that others throw at us. The rest would be 3 quality lines that should be able to drive offensive play when they're on the ice. This would basically give us a legit elite 1st line, a high level 2nd line, a low 2nd/very high 3rd line, and a defensively dominant 4th. Not many teams would be able to match that.

Yeah though the one change I might make to that is Nino with Tro and Necas instead of Lorentz. Nino has actually been playing very well this year and while I understand his chemistry with Staal and Fast has been good I really think he needs to play with some more talent. Kotkaniemi and Jarvis is a step up but he may slot in better with Tro and Necas, and I'd rather see him playing more minutes than Lorentz.

 

[WreckingCrew]

He's better than Stepan, but Stepan is a pretty solid 4C option. That gives us the ability to play Kotkaniemi up in the lineup, where he can play more minutes with better linemates. And in turn it allows us to only need to play the 4th line 8 minutes a night, which keeps guys like Martinook and Lorentz in their lane.

...but RBA hasn't done that at all since he got put down to the 4th line has he?

 

[Stickpucker]

Yeah though the one change I might make to that is Nino with Tro and Necas instead of Lorentz. Nino has actually been playing very well this year and while I understand his chemistry with Staal and Fast has been good I really think he needs to play with some more talent. Kotkaniemi and Jarvis is a step up but he may slot in better with Tro and Necas, and I'd rather see him playing more minutes than Lorentz.

One of my thoughts that factored into that is a big problem with our lineup right now is Jarvis/Necas aren't going. and JK is playing well but could use more toi to extrapolate out his production. The hopes of those combos is to get Jarivs or Necas going and let Nino get even more points with a better offensive line.

 

[Tryamw]

Necas atm is in the black hole that once claimed Staal.. except even more of his actions directly harm us