My Cozen Dylan
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Karmanos and Ventura each get a promotion. You're not getting some extensive search.
It may actually work out - at least Karmanos has extensive experience in the league.
Kevyn Adams GM thread
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It may actually work out - at least Karmanos has extensive experience in the league.
joshjull
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He’s not selling the team. But he will likely sell a % like he’s doing with the Bills.
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You’d cut him off halfway through his ten year plan for the playoffs?
Ace
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I’d fire him in his birthday and then hire him for another position so I could fire him again on Christmas.
Ace
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Anything can work. Except nothing. Nothing doesn’t work. We’ve spent five straight years trying nothing. We’ve exhausted all of the nothing we can do.
Ace
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To be clear…Terry Pegula is the biggest problem with the Sabres.
Kevyn Adams is the biggest problem that can be quickly and easily fixed.
Kevyn Adams is the biggest problem that can be quickly and easily fixed.
Ace
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At this point a real move would be the first true sign anyone there might actually face the consequences of their shitty work. Which I would gladly lose a trade to believe. I need to have hope again.
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2024 Draft
“I've told every team in the league that we are wide open to considering moving Pick 11,” Adams said. “We're wide open to consider anything, to be honest with you – (trading) prospects, if we think it's going to help our team. We're having those conversations right now.
“So, all of that's on the table. And these conversations have been going on for a few weeks. They'll certainly pick up steam here in the next week as we get closer to Vegas.”
2024 Trade Deadline
2022 Trade Deadline
Buffalo were always expected to be sellers as we play out yet another season with no postseason hockey on the horizon, but there were no cap-relief type of deals either as the Sabres refused to take on salary from cap-strapped teams.
2022 Trade deadline
Speaking after the deadline, the GM indicated that he was quite happy with how the young roster is starting to come together and gelling into some kind of positive form while developing a culture – when was the last time Buffalo was over even .300 in March?
2024 Trade deadline
“I’ve said from the beginning that we need people that want to be here, and we’ve had enough time to start to build this the right way,” Adams told the group. “So, I get excited. I think we’re in a great spot.”
Its all bullshit.
People that want to be here is a priority over winning.
“I've told every team in the league that we are wide open to considering moving Pick 11,” Adams said. “We're wide open to consider anything, to be honest with you – (trading) prospects, if we think it's going to help our team. We're having those conversations right now.
“So, all of that's on the table. And these conversations have been going on for a few weeks. They'll certainly pick up steam here in the next week as we get closer to Vegas.”
2024 Trade Deadline
"We're Disappointed With Where We Are" | Kevyn Adams After Trade Deadline
"Then you have the opportunity to make trades with draft picks and prospects and I’ve made it very clear with people in the league that we’re open to that.2022 Trade Deadline
Buffalo were always expected to be sellers as we play out yet another season with no postseason hockey on the horizon, but there were no cap-relief type of deals either as the Sabres refused to take on salary from cap-strapped teams.
2022 Trade deadline
Speaking after the deadline, the GM indicated that he was quite happy with how the young roster is starting to come together and gelling into some kind of positive form while developing a culture – when was the last time Buffalo was over even .300 in March?
2024 Trade deadline
“I’ve said from the beginning that we need people that want to be here, and we’ve had enough time to start to build this the right way,” Adams told the group. “So, I get excited. I think we’re in a great spot.”
Its all bullshit.
People that want to be here is a priority over winning.
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Ace
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I hope the next guy leads off with “I want players who want to be in the playoffs”
My Cozen Dylan
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If Kevyn Adams was really open to anything that would improve the team he would quit his job
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It's depressing to think that, given Terry's hiring record, Adams' replacement could very likely be worse.
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What are the odds Pegula brings in an even more unqualified GM to replace Adams? Pretty f***ing high with this clown’s track record.
The rot starts — always started — at the top. And that ain’t going away.
Don’t get me wrong, Adams is well past his expiration date. I really thought he was a goner alongside Granato. I don’t even know how he saved his ass — probably by selling the Idiot King on Ruff being the missing piece.
But in spite of his many flaws, I honestly fear what replaces him more. Another two-bit amateur with a rebuild plan? I can’t do this again.
I despise the Pegulas with every fiber of my being.
The rot starts — always started — at the top. And that ain’t going away.
Don’t get me wrong, Adams is well past his expiration date. I really thought he was a goner alongside Granato. I don’t even know how he saved his ass — probably by selling the Idiot King on Ruff being the missing piece.
But in spite of his many flaws, I honestly fear what replaces him more. Another two-bit amateur with a rebuild plan? I can’t do this again.
I despise the Pegulas with every fiber of my being.
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Adams gets kicked to President
You have 3 Assistant gm's to choose from, the next ass kisser could be the brother in law, even though he is the least qualified for gm.
Owner will feel he's been burned by the nhl in the past (Lala, Murray, Botts) and not trust a outside pick despite many recent competent examples in Vancouver and elsewhere.
Don't even mention Ruff, I'm sure he is planning the fishing in Wyoming years right about now and who can blame him.
You have 3 Assistant gm's to choose from, the next ass kisser could be the brother in law, even though he is the least qualified for gm.
Owner will feel he's been burned by the nhl in the past (Lala, Murray, Botts) and not trust a outside pick despite many recent competent examples in Vancouver and elsewhere.
Don't even mention Ruff, I'm sure he is planning the fishing in Wyoming years right about now and who can blame him.
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Fjordy
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If you fire Adams now, you might as well just skip the GM search and give Karmanos and Ventura the reigns and see how that works out. We don't need Pegula rushing to find a new GM. Because Terry maybe can't find a GM better than Adams, and maybe even worse. If Karmanos and Ventura don't work out, you hire an experienced POHO (advisor) in the spring-summer who will conduct a thorough search for a GM and make a plan.
Then hire an experienced POHO or at least an advisor who will find you a GM. What the hell is Adams going to do as president? Is he going to find a new GM or influence hockey decisions (not trading my boys and need more draft picks)?
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Bring in someone who has done this before as a team president and let him bring in a few guys to do a top to bottom evaluation.
Karmanos isn't the answer. Being a part of the front office isnt the same as being the guy in charge.
Is his experience better than Adams? Yes. At this point, given how things are going, would I hire Karmanos to take over? No.
We've gone the former AGM route before. We need someone who can just take over the entire front office and reshape it.
Fjordy
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I agree, we just need to act now and we don't want Terry rushing into finding a GM himself. We need an experienced POHO or at least an advisor (if Terry doesn't want to appoint a POHO) who can evaluate all of this and look into finding a GM.
But I'm scared that Pegula might appoint Adams to the POHO position.
I could go along for a while under the premise that the franchise needed to draft, develop, fill in some roster holes with cheap past-prime vets to help while we all waited for the kids to grow. I could go along with wanting to have guys that wanted to be a Sabre, etc... All that mantra turned into obvious bullsh-t after KA walked Ullmark and Reinhart to UFA or wanting out, and trading a C that just hit his prime for a younger player that still needs to develop.
All those guys wanted to be in Buffalo and they all had paid their dues, and reached that point where the waiting was worth it. They were all about to become very good Sabres and fill roster holes that desperately needed them. They were lost for nothing or traded simply to save money and cap space, or kick the can down the road in the name of a gradual re-build. The time to wait for development and fill in holes with cheap mediocre vets is gone. It was time to push forward with a cap ceiling team, with capable vets in needed spots at least a year ago.
Ironically and sadly, two of those much needed upgrades in the roster could have been filled with the very type of players that KA lied about wanting to have in the organization. Actually three players, because Ullmark would've been great to have until UPL fully developed. They could be here and actually fit under the cap, and we'd be looking at a more veteran and capable, legit playoff contender. Instead, we have a fake contender put together under a set of long-running lies from a fake GM pushing a narrative for an owner that doesn't actually care about being competitive anymore.
All those guys wanted to be in Buffalo and they all had paid their dues, and reached that point where the waiting was worth it. They were all about to become very good Sabres and fill roster holes that desperately needed them. They were lost for nothing or traded simply to save money and cap space, or kick the can down the road in the name of a gradual re-build. The time to wait for development and fill in holes with cheap mediocre vets is gone. It was time to push forward with a cap ceiling team, with capable vets in needed spots at least a year ago.
Ironically and sadly, two of those much needed upgrades in the roster could have been filled with the very type of players that KA lied about wanting to have in the organization. Actually three players, because Ullmark would've been great to have until UPL fully developed. They could be here and actually fit under the cap, and we'd be looking at a more veteran and capable, legit playoff contender. Instead, we have a fake contender put together under a set of long-running lies from a fake GM pushing a narrative for an owner that doesn't actually care about being competitive anymore.
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I'll take those odds. We already know Adams isn't the guy. Delaying moving on from him just means we're taking longer to find the guy. Sticking with a proven loser is much worse than taking a shot on an unknown. Need to keep taking shots until you find a guy who can get it done
And if the next guy is worse? So what. I don't see any difference between not making the playoffs with Adams and not making the playoffs with "XXXX". If he's worse we move onto the next one. If we're extending the drought I'd much rather be drafting 1st-6th than 7th-13th. We need some actual game breakers. Not just some 5'10" 180lb "skilled" wingers.
I'm beginning to feel a bit of deja vu with our current crop of prospects. We're all waiting for this "can't miss" wave of talent to arrive and save us... just like when we were waiting for "can't miss" Bailey, Baptiste, Cornel, Karabacek, Fasching etc.. I'm not saying that Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund, Helenius, aren't better than the previous crop. But I have the same feeling that they won't save us.
