Sidney the Kidney
One last time
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But we're looking at the entire picture, not just random segments of time. Otherwise, without Max Talbot the Pens don't win in 2009, without Chris Kunitz the Pens might not even have made the finals in 2017, etc.I get that but without fleury in 2017 we may not win the cup. Pitched a shutout in game 7 against Washington. Without the save on Ovechkin there is no guarantee we win. 2/3 cups we really needed him.
Playing a big role in one series or over one stretch of seasons doesn't make a player foundational. Playing a big role during the ENTIRETY of that core's success does. And, IMO, Fleury wasn't "great" enough during that decade+ stretch of Penguins success to be included in that foundational core.