IIHF's response to Strome and Kamenev?

[kelsier]

In the quarter final game Strome was boarded by Laine who then was served a two minute penalty. Meanwhile Strome heads of towards the dressing room with obvious intent to seek out a game misconduct for Laine as well as heftier team penalty. Strome then returns back onto ice to play power play, probably displaying the most unsportsmanlike behaviour the WJC had to offer.

Kamenev heated up in a rage in the finals, hit the official with the stick. Resulting into bleeding hand and a health threatening situation. Penalised by getting game misconduct (10+20).

The latter will by no doubts be dealt with afterwards but haven't seen IIHF taken any kind of punishment regarding Dylan Strome. What would you think is the most suited action in order to teach these youngster what is right and what is wrong? Personally cannot believe Strome was let back on the ice after acting out a game ending injury. By taking no action the federation seems to deem it as something "you can do".

There are always debates what comes down to refereeing in these international tournaments and the referees are far from being NHL level. It seems an annual problem that doesn't get dressed, while it's more or less transparent the IIHF is unable to find enough quality officials for the games. Still, they have the opportunity to deliver judgement and compensate the obvious faults later on. They seem to be more or less disinterested making the decisions that could better the quality for the future by not responding, unless someone gets hurt or bleeding.

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[KimmoV]

I see these games as a sort of a showcase for new talent.
While I believe there should be some consequences to Kamenev, (technically that is an assault and as such a criminal affair but that would be just ridiculous) I believe that Strome might have inflicted himself more damage than IIHF can ever do.
There are scouts, trainers, reporters and whathaveyou there.... Assuming he tried to do what is claimed here (and not have to pee real quick for example ) he has just shown what type of character he has and to think that scouts would not include a thing like that in the psych-eval of the players is doubtful. Sure....there might be trainers/GMs that like that kind of thing but I doubt that is (or the naive part of me hopes is not ) the case.

 

[Nexus]

Kamenev will probably hear from his idiotic behaviour from IIHF.

But what Strome did, was bit unsportsmanlike - but Canada only got 2 minutes PP from the hit, nothing big happened. I don't think there is any sort of penalty needed for him. It's just part of hockey.

We've seen J.Ruutu do same **** on IIHF men's tournament, pretending to be hurt on the play to get extra minutes on the opponent and most of the Finns didn't complain. They shouldn't complain about Strome in this case either.

 

[BobDobolina]

I'm much more interested in Strome going all

at the referee after the game.

 

[FiLe]

There really is no team with players all above what Strome did. It could be debated if it actually had been a five-minute major and a game-changer, but the refs didn't fall for it and made the exact right call, so that little incident was cleared right there and then.

Well, that may not be the best way to approach the problem on a more general level, but I guess that'll have to wait until there's an incident that actually results in such a questionable situation - because after the right call, it would be "unfair" for the person acting out. We all just have to cross our fingers and pray it's not our own team that's on the receiving end.

 

[VictorLustig]

More likely the coach told Strome to go to the dressing room. It didn't look good and how awful would it be if the reffs actually fell for it?

 

[kelsier]

More likely the coach told Strome to go to the dressing room. It didn't look good and how awful would it be if the reffs actually fell for it?

I was actually thinking along these lines. Perhaps not exactly that the coach "ordered" or asked him to head off, but more as if that the coach should be getting penalised as well as the player. Strome deserved a two minute team penalty for unsportsmanship behaviour (and possibly even a ten minute personal) as soon as he returned the ice, but the referees turned an blind eye. That's the way it should have gone down.

Nevertheless as someone said, it hurt him more on personal level to do what he did. Yet IIHF turning an blind eye will results to fans seeing more of this type of events in the future and yes you will be praying that this won't be something that happens against your team. Therefore it would be rather compelling for the federation to actually react instead of forgetting it never happened, in order to lessen this type of events in the long run. I just lost all the respect for the player and he will probably have to look back and think 'why did I do that' and it will be too late to change what happened as people will remember.

 

[Lonny Bohonos]

Lol. Really. No one will care in a few weeks time. Nor will Strome.

 

[Flick of the Switch]

Kamenev should get something for his idiocy,
Strome's was a ******* move but those will never get looked at. So cringeworthy when he drops down, looks at the ref first and then starts being in pain. Alrighty then.

I recall Jarkko Ruutu maybe doing a similiar fishing for a major in FEL in his last couple seasons and when he came back to the next shift he got a 2 for embellishment which was quite amusing.

 

[behemolari]

Kamenev should be banned from international games, Strome thing happens every year in every games (example Haapala penalty shot against canada 2014).

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Kamenev will probably hear from his idiotic behaviour from IIHF.

But what Strome did, was bit unsportsmanlike - but Canada only got 2 minutes PP from the hit, nothing big happened. I don't think there is any sort of penalty needed for him. It's just part of hockey.

We've seen J.Ruutu do same **** on IIHF men's tournament, pretending to be hurt on the play to get extra minutes on the opponent and most of the Finns didn't complain. They shouldn't complain about Strome in this case either.

Just want to put it out there... I feel sick every time my team does this crap.
So yes.. I never liked it when Jarkko did it either.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

 

[Snowsii]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

i got nothing against Russians, but i got against players, who hurt officials which arent even in the rink..

 

[Kuhta]

Kamenev should receive a ban for international games. How can you hit and wound arena personnel and not receive?

 

[Cirris]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

No, it's cause he took a broken stick that he smashed against the boards and then overhead chopped a clipboard right out of the hands of an off ice official with it, causing a bloody laceration across the official's hand.

There's no defense for that, EVER.

 

[BobDobolina]

He won't be back for this tournament so he should get a couple games that he serves in one of the meaningless exhibition tournaments they play in Europe. A complete non issue.

As for Strome, don't even know what you are on about there.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

Love my Russians. Mogliny, Bure and Fedorov my favourite players of all time.

Doesn't change the fact that Kamenev went full ******.

 

[Lapa]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

He slashed a person in the hand. Just because people want a Russian player to be punished for his actions, it doesn't mean that people hate Russians or Kamenev.

Come on.

He won't be back for this tournament so he should get a couple games that he serves in one of the meaningless exhibition tournaments they play in Europe. A complete non issue.

As for Strome, don't even know what you are on about there.

Kamenev plays in the AHL, so I'm not sure that's the best idea. Unless you're referring to WHC.

 

[behemolari]

Officials are pissed of guy didn't apologised his action not after the game or at the press http://www.iltalehti.fi/nuorten-mm-jaakiekko/2016010620915717_nu.shtml

 

[JackSlater]

Should be a small suspension for Kamenev, and I expect that there will be one. There should also be a suspension for Strome, but there obviously won't be one. The IIHF (and the NHL and everyone else) should punish divers, and Strome's dive was as blatant and embarrassing as they come.

 

[WeAre]

Officials are pissed of guy didn't apologised his action not after the game or at the press http://www.iltalehti.fi/nuorten-mm-jaakiekko/2016010620915717_nu.shtml

10 000 euro fine and ban from international games would be ok.

 

[Crosbyfan]

As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.

That is ridiculous. What he did was reckless and stupid.

 

[MXD]

The fact Kamenev is Russian shouldn't be a reason not to ban him.

 

[kooma 13]

"You went full ******. Never go full ******".

 

[KimmoV]

Officials are pissed of guy didn't apologised his action not after the game or at the press http://www.iltalehti.fi/nuorten-mm-jaakiekko/2016010620915717_nu.shtml

well to be honest, the accurate translation says nothing about officials being pissed off...

Yllätti kaikki

Heiskamo ei tarkalleen osaa sanoa, löikö Kamenev suoraan mailallaan toimitsijaa käteen, vai lensikö siihen mahdollisesti varresta irronnut lapa.

- Se tilanne tuli niin nopeasti, että sitä ei sen tarkemmin ehditty käydä läpi siinä. Hänelle tuli tietysti kiire hoitoon siinä vaiheessa.

- Mutta kyllä se sen verran kova isku on ollut, että ilmeisesti maila on osunut käteen suoraan, Heiskamo arvelee.

Heiskamo ihmettelee tapahtunutta yhä seuraavana päivänäkin.

- Pääsi vähän yllättämään kaikki siinä. Ei noita ole uralla tullut aikaisemmin vastaan, ainakaan noin rajuja. Ne ilmaisut on kohdistuneet johonkin ihan muuhun kuin toimitsijoihin.

Julkisesti Kamenev ei tekoaan anteeksi pyydellyt, vaan jatkoi kiukuttelua myös lehdistölle.

- Kysy tuomareilta, Nashville Predatorsin organisaatiossa kiekkoileva Kamenev vastasi asiasta kysyttäessä.

Pelaaja ei ole tiettävästi ollut yhteydessä myöskään toimitsijoihin tempustaan.

- Ei ole ainakaan meille asti kuulunut, että olisi lähettänyt viestiä. Ei ole ollut kyseiseen toimitsijaan yhteydessä, eikä siinä hallillakaan pyytänyt anteeksi, Heiskamo kertoo.

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Heiskamo could not exactly say whether Kamenev hit the official directly on the hand or if it was hit by a piece of the stick.
"It happened so fast there was no time to go in detail there and then. The official needed to just get looked after".
"But it was hard enough of a hit that it was most likely the stick that hit him on the hand." speculates Heiskamo.

Heiskamo was still wondering about the event the next day.

"It caught us all a bit by surprise. It has not happened before in my career, at least not so harsh. Those actions have always been directed at something else not at the officials".

Kamenev has not apologized for his actions in public, but has continued his temper tantrums to the press as well.

"Ask the referees", the Kamenev, who plays for the Nashville Predators organisation, answered when asked about it.

The player has not been in contact with the officials about his actions as far as it is known.

"We have at least not heard anything. He has not made contact with the official himself and he did not apologize at the hall", says Heiskamo.

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so nobody has been pissed off...not the officials....the headline in the Finnish paper is already a bit misleading as it states "Official astounded by the hit by the Russian Captain - "He has not apologized"....where the only astoundment in the article is just about the suddenness of the action...nothing else.