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IIHF's response to Strome and Kamenev?

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BlitzSnipe said:
As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.
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Don't try to play the victim mate. You already went full troll in the GDTs, spare us from this. People couldn't give less of a **** where the player is from, an idiotic move is idiotic in every case. Has nothing to do with where he happens to be from.
 
I don't understand people who say Kamenev should get small penalty. I think it should be huge. You just can't "assault" random people in a hockey game. That is a lot worse than injuring another player. I think it should be similar penalty to if he hit the referee. And those are some long suspensions.
 
An 18 year old kid gets drilled from behind on a cheap shot and the only explanation is that he went to the dressing room to try and draw a penalty? No chance that the doctors/trainers/coaches thought he should get checked out quickly? No chance that he had a stinger or some tightness he wanted to get worked out?

We don't need to dive to try and draw penalties or rely on the refs to hand us gifts to win like Finland.

Plus if he wanted to draw a bigger penalty he would have stayed on the ice as we have seen the moron Euro refs get fooled all the time by this tactic.
 
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Don't like Strome's attitude and his behaviour overall, but the incident that OP mentioned wasn't really anything too serious. Happens all the time.

Kamenev, on the other hand... disgraceful. Why did they still let him back on the ice to collect the silver trophy & medal?
 
Yeah, the fact Kamenev didn't even apologize for his behavior or it's outcome is stunning. He deserves whatever he gets and hopefully it's the maximum penalty (not eternal ban but far more than just a few games).

Strome deserves to be penalized just as much due to illegally trying to affect the outcome of the game and not bothering to admit or even apologize for it. Doesn't matter what you do but as long as it's wrong, in both moral sense as well as being against the rules - walking away with it sends out the wrong signal. These are juniors and do stupid stuff out there, but being young doesn't get you a free pass. Quite the contrary, the youngster should be surveyed under tighter scale, just so that their behavior isn't adopted by the following peers.
 
This is getting really stupid. Strome went into the boards and could have easily been hurting there momentarily. How on earth are you going to prove that wasn't the case?

How about that Finnish player faking an injury so Teravainen could take the penalty shot a couple years ago? I don't recall you guys crying about it then, let alone demanding a suspension of some kind.
 
BobDobolina said:
This is getting really stupid. Strome went into the boards and could have easily been hurting there momentarily. How on earth are you going to prove that wasn't the case?

How about that Finnish player faking an injury so Teravainen could take the penalty shot a couple years ago? I don't recall you guys crying about it then, let alone demanding a suspension of some kind.
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We didnt wan't to teräväinen take out the penalty shot
 
Was this guy suspended for this act?



Because he was totally fine afterwards.
 
BobDobolina said:
This is getting really stupid. Strome went into the boards and could have easily been hurting there momentarily. How on earth are you going to prove that wasn't the case?

How about that Finnish player faking an injury so Teravainen could take the penalty shot a couple years ago? I don't recall you guys crying about it then, let alone demanding a suspension of some kind.
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One action doesn't justify the other. For all the crap Ruutu pulled I don't think many Finns would actually take side for his favour and try to defend him. Personally never liked him as a player or some of the stunts he pulled.

The incident regarding Haapala's (if I remember correctly) shoot out, was an oddity and far less suspicious compared to Strome's instant recovery. They are not really comparable. This isn't about nationality and I'm not judging Canadians in general. It's a matter of certain player, coach and mostly about IIHF and their inability to take action. There's no need to take things personal here.
 
While the coach may have instructed something, I thought it was more plausible that he went to the dressing room/quiet room to rule out any sort of concussion.
 
kelsier said:
Yeah, the fact Kamenev didn't even apologize for his behavior or it's outcome is stunning. He deserves whatever he gets and hopefully it's the maximum penalty (not eternal ban but far more than just a few games).

Strome deserves to be penalized just as much due to illegally trying to affect the outcome of the game and not bothering to admit or even apologize for it. Doesn't matter what you do but as long as it's wrong, in both moral sense as well as being against the rules - walking away with it sends out the wrong signal. These are juniors and do stupid stuff out there, but being young doesn't get you a free pass. Quite the contrary, the youngster should be surveyed under tighter scale, just so that their behavior isn't adopted by the following peers.
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:laugh: Are you serious? The worst thing he did, if he even did it at all (which no one has any proof of), is that he dove and tried to draw a penalty. That's it.

In what world have we ever forced players to apologize for diving or trying to sucker a penalty call? Why should we start with Strome?
 
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The Strome thing was hilarious. You could see after he got hit he went down and looked up and he showed no pain on his face, but once he saw the ref had stopped play he put his head down and acted like he was seriously injured. I didn't even see the whole game, but I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
 
Is there video of what Kamenev did? I watched the TSN feed and all I got to see was him slap the puck as it came back out of the net. I thought perhaps he got it for that, or that maybe he didn't see an official and hit them with the puck accidentally.
 
For those who missed Kamenev's meltdown:

http://youtu.be/nsqMMJy_9qk

This doesn't really capture the whole thing, but he was going crazy at the refs because Finland scored a big PP goal after having a bunch of PPs, even though they were all no brainer calls for the refs. Refs put him in the box, he goes nuts and breaks his stick, then brings his broken stick into the box and very purposefully smacks an off ice official (in the penalty box) with the broken end. Cuts the officials hand quite badly, then gets a game misconduct. The officials were actually pretty generous to not give the Finns any sort of PP, just sent Kamenev off. Regardless, he should be punished pretty heavily for this.
 
Just a couple young men losing their temper in the heat of battle. With age and maturity they will learn to control their emotions better. Nothing to see here.
 
BlitzSnipe said:
As expected, haters are after Kamenev - I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that he's Russian.
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Why do you always have to blame everyone else when you Russians loose. Now your player goes and hit an official with his stick and he gets a penalty "cos his Russian"?
R.Rotenberg even went public about IIHF should investigate why Russia got 40min penalties. 30min of it came from Kamenevs going berserk. Learn too loose. Or go watch some clips about the BS in Sotchi 2014. Never seen worse officiating.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Just a couple young men losing their temper in the heat of battle. With age and maturity they will learn to control their emotions better. Nothing to see here.
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When the "young men losing their temper" starts hurting people that are not a part of the game, it's something to see IMO
 
moon said:
An 18 year old kid gets drilled from behind on a cheap shot and the only explanation is that he went to the dressing room to try and draw a penalty? No chance that the doctors/trainers/coaches thought he should get checked out quickly? No chance that he had a stinger or some tightness he wanted to get worked out?

We don't need to dive to try and draw penalties or rely on the refs to hand us gifts to win like Finland.

Plus if he wanted to draw a bigger penalty he would have stayed on the ice as we have seen the moron Euro refs get fooled all the time by this tactic.
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C'mon. He played that very same power play. One minute he was near death, the next he was ready to win the game.

Faking injury should be a suspension.
 
ponder said:
For those who missed Kamenev's meltdown:

http://youtu.be/nsqMMJy_9qk

This doesn't really capture the whole thing, but he was going crazy at the refs because Finland scored a big PP goal after having a bunch of PPs, even though they were all no brainer calls for the refs. Refs put him in the box, he goes nuts and breaks his stick, then brings his broken stick into the box and very purposefully smacks an off ice official (in the penalty box) with the broken end. Cuts the officials hand quite badly, then gets a game misconduct. The officials were actually pretty generous to not give the Finns any sort of PP, just sent Kamenev off. Regardless, he should be punished pretty heavily for this.
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That's an awfully biased account.

What happened is Kamanev was taken down on what looked like a clear penalty. The officials missed it and he was pissed. After Finland scored to take the lead he started mouthing off and the officials went to put him in the box. In frustration, he smashed his stick against the boards as players often do and an official unfortunately suffered a minor wound in the process.

The idea that this was some sort of intentional assault and Kamenev needs to be kicked out of hockey is absolutely absurd. He made a mistake because his emotions got the better of him. He should have apologized I agree, but there is no need for a lengthy suspension over it.
 
Guru Meditation said:
C'mon. He played that very same power play. One minute he was near death, the next he was ready to win the game.

Faking injury should be a suspension.
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How are you going to prove someone faked it?

Btw. Kamenev apologized, says he didn't know he hurt someone. Should still get banned for the next Izvestia and Heineken cups.
 
WarriorofTime said:
That's an awfully biased account.

What happened is Kamanev was taken down on what looked like a clear penalty. The officials missed it and he was pissed. After Finland scored to take the lead he started mouthing off and the officials went to put him in the box. In frustration, he smashed his stick against the boards as players often do and an official unfortunately suffered a minor wound in the process.

The idea that this was some sort of intentional assault and Kamenev needs to be kicked out of hockey is absolutely absurd. He made a mistake because his emotions got the better of him. He should have apologized I agree, but there is no need for a lengthy suspension over it.
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Watch the video in the link I posted. He brings the broken stick into the box, clearly smacks the off ice official with it on purpose, cutting his hand. It looks quite swollen and bloody immediately too.
 
ponder said:
For those who missed Kamenev's meltdown:

http://youtu.be/nsqMMJy_9qk

This doesn't really capture the whole thing, but he was going crazy at the refs because Finland scored a big PP goal after having a bunch of PPs, even though they were all no brainer calls for the refs. Refs put him in the box, he goes nuts and breaks his stick, then brings his broken stick into the box and very purposefully smacks an off ice official (in the penalty box) with the broken end. Cuts the officials hand quite badly, then gets a game misconduct. The officials were actually pretty generous to not give the Finns any sort of PP, just sent Kamenev off. Regardless, he should be punished pretty heavily for this.
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I saw him break his stick entering the box. As you say, the video doesn't show him picking up the broken blade and striking the off ice official. If he did do that, he should certainly receive some sort of ban from international play. He'll be too old for the WJC next year, so it can't be as simple as saying no U20 international hockey for you anymore.
 
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