IIHF News: Foppa will play tomorrow

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Lion of the North said:
Some quotes from the swedish doctors:



Translation:

The managment of "Tre Kronor" was hoping that six days of complete rest would heal up the small tear that was still visible on x-rays last sunday.
They were right.
Tre Kronor doctor Lennart Hovelius says that Forsberg is not taking any chances by playing.
- Not if we start easy (Forsberg is set on the 4th line tommorow against Latvia). Our judgement is that the groin is healed, there shouldnt be any problems, he says to TT (a news agency).

great... i hope they're right.

i find it difficult to believe that a guy goes from 50/50 to no risk in 24 hrs.

for fun... lets start bringing up all the examples of hockey players that were medically cleared to play on groins that promptly screwed the thing up again... it's not a short list.
 
Jester said:
great... i hope they're right.

i find it difficult to believe that a guy goes from 50/50 to no risk in 24 hrs.

for fun... lets start bringing up all the examples of hockey players that were medically cleared to play on groins that promptly screwed the thing up again... it's not a short list.
You are bending the words. Hovelius said 50/50 from his expertise on sunday/monday. That's at least 96 hours. He said that based on the test on friday.
 
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Jester said:
oh... we're already praying, with good reason:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/fantasy?playerId=284

his groin problems AREN'T new, and they don't go away easily... the rest would have been the best possible thing for him.

I know they aren't new, in fact, in another thread (probably the 33rd thread out of about 99 devoted to Peter and his groin. :innocent: ) I posted a list of his groin/stomach muscle injury marathon the Avs experienced during the 2003-2004 season. (I believe someone had the nerve to ask me if I had a life.... ;) ). Listen, I have to fess up to something, now normally I pride myself on not being some Rose-Coloured Glasses wearing fan (concerning my favourite team that is) but when it comes to Peter, I sometimes have a tendency to put them on. So I'll admit that I may, just may have them on right now. Would rest be the best thing for Peter? Sure, no arguments from me. Time off from the game would probably benefit a majority of the already injured players that are in Turino. But they are competitors with a lot of national pride who feel that they owe it to the country (and the people) who got them where they are today. So yes, they are going to go out there (even if they are not 100%) and play their little butts off. And there will be some who will come back to their respective NHL teams just fine, some that come back worse off then when they left, and some that come back with brand-spankin' new injuries. And that's just the way it is. The only way to prevent this from happening is if the NHL pulls their heads out of their butts during the next round of CBA talks and says flat out, unequivocally that they will not allow NHL players to participate in the Olympics. But until they do this, every NHL player that is asked to represent his country in the Olympics has a right to say, "Why yes, I would love too." And there isn't one thing that the GM, the coach, the owner, or the fans can do about it. It is up to the player and no one else. He must decide for himself. He shouldn't have to make a choice between his national team and his NHL team. At least not while the NHL powers-that-be agreed to shut down the season in order to allow the players to play. I just don't believe that is fair to the athlete.

Leo Naphta said:
Let me guess: You are no physician.
No, but I bet he stayed at a Marriott Express last night. ;) Just kidding! I couldn't resist. But I guess I probably should have...huh?
 
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Jester said:
great... i hope they're right.

i find it difficult to believe that a guy goes from 50/50 to no risk in 24 hrs.

for fun... lets start bringing up all the examples of hockey players that were promptly screwed the thing up again... it's not a short list.

For fun... lets start bringing up all the examples of hockey players that were medically cleared to play that went on to play hockey without getting injured right away.
 
Great news for us, maybe now Alfredsson wont keep on screwing up in powerplay since Forsberg will have the puck most of the times. I and pray to god that the injury doesn't get bad again, that would really suck.

I have full respect for the decision that Forsberg did since it's probably his last Olypmics and he missed the old one because of some stupid foot injury. The guy has been having a rough career, give him a break. You can't change his decision so just live with it and enjoy watching him play since he wont be playing the game of hockey many more years...
 
Well I am appalled that Forsberg is playing as a Flyer Fan but I am happy for Sweden as this certainly should help make them a contender providing Peter stays
healthy.....he just better not get hurt........
 
Not at all a big Forsberg fan but this just stems back to what I have come to expect from Forsberg. If he could show the devotion for his NHL team that he does for his National team, like other players, he truly would be one of the best players of all time.
 
Why? Its just club hockey. World Championships, World Cups and Olympics are simply special. You can't feel special every day.
 
These tournaments are probably quite equal to the Stanley Cup Playoffs...so don't compare a regular season game with an olympic game when it comes to giving your best. If Forsberg didn't have heart for his NHL club he would never have made a couple of too early comebacks.
 
Janney17 said:
Not at all a big Forsberg fan but this just stems back to what I have come to expect from Forsberg. If he could show the devotion for his NHL team that he does for his National team, like other players, he truly would be one of the best players of all time.


Forsberg´s got more heart than any other hockeyplayer alive, your smacktalk about "lack of devotion" cleary shows that you know nothing about Peter the Great.
 
According to Swedish media, Forsberg tested his groin in silence already on thursday morning, 08.00, when everybody else were asleep.

-Yes, I practiced already eight in the morning, when all the photographers were asleep. It felt in he groin then as well.
-The groin was probably healed entirely already a couple of days ago. But I really wanted these extra days to be absolutely sure that everything was really 100%.

The Swedish team and Forsberg knew the groin felt ok, but they kept silent.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,780607,00.html
 
There's also a bigger picture here. Clarke and Snider were easily the most vocal owner and GM trying to pressure their players to skip the olympics. It worked on every Euro Flyer selected (Jonsson, Pitkänen, Kapanen, Handzus) except for Forsberg. The only reason they probably didn't try to get Simon Gagne to skip the games is the fear of backlash from the Canadian media. That's another reason i'm really glad Foppa did what he had to do..
 
TK79 said:
There's also a bigger picture here. Clarke and Snider were easily the most vocal owner and GM trying to pressure their players to skip the olympics. It worked on every Euro Flyer selected (Jonsson, Pitkänen, Kapanen, Handzus) except for Forsberg. The only reason they probably didn't try to get Simon Gagne to skip the games is the fear of backlash from the Canadian media. That's another reason i'm really glad Foppa did what he had to do..

exactly.
 
That's Forsberg. When he has decided something, it doesn't matter what anybody else says or who it is saying it. It's his decision and he knows it perfectly well.

Like when he took his hockey break. He said perfectly clear that it's his decision and that he doesn't care for one second what other people say or think about it.
 
Starshollow said:
Forsberg´s got more heart than any other hockeyplayer alive, your smacktalk about "lack of devotion" cleary shows that you know nothing about Peter the Great.

I think you missed the point. His first two seasons, Forsberg was dominant, since then he just hasn't shown that same form from the start to the end of a season. I think he was spoiled by getting a cup and big paycheck way too early in his career. My point wasn't that he had no heart period, it was that he had no heart for the NHL. He's played one full season and never seems to play through the injuries or if he does it is a very lackluster performance. Why do you think he talks about quitting and going back to Europe all the time? Forsberg has more heart than any other hockey player alive, tell that to Messier, Bourque, Howe, Yzerman, T. Fleury, Orr, Gretzky, Sakic (oh by the way Forsberg was just a supporting cast member, no Sakic = no cups) I could also name many more. Hell even Lemieux when he admitted that he just wasn't in the game early on had more heart than Foppa.

IMO I think Forsberg's hockey career has been a disappointment. I honestly thought Forsberg after 95-96 would be the most dominant player in the NHL but he never lived up to those lofty expectations.
 
"Forsberg will never lead a team to a cup." Never said he needed Sakic I said if it wasn't for Sakic Forsberg would not have his name on Lord Stanley. Colorado could have won it without Forsberg but without Sakic there was no way.
 
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