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Jazz said:
My mistake for not clarifiying - but Clarke came out and said that he 'should' be able to forbid Forsberg from going... :shakehead
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So if you were in Clarke's position, what would you do? Clarke had no say when these rules were made. The NHL is obviously not a democracy.
 
Erm Sturm is way more important to Germany than Forsberg is to Sweden thats my Point.

If Forsberg's injury was really giving him only a like 50% chance to play then the swedish coaches would haven been orifessinal enough to suck it up and called nylander. Nylander is not exactly a basd player himself;

btw i wish germany had nominated Sturm and Hecht for the Taxi Squad and flown them in for the QF if they made it; If Germany makes a medal and sturm and hecht don't get one that would be so damn sad; those two are the german ambassadors of the sport and its just sad for them they cant join the team :cry:
 
Leo Naphta said:
:biglaugh:

Let me guess: You are no physician.
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:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

no... but i've watched sports and watched athletes make poor decisions -- with regularity -- regarding the advisability of them continuing to play, or suiting up in the first place. how many athletes -- ESPECIALLY HOCKEY PLAYERS -- have played on bumb knees, broken bones, etc. when it was advisable that they shouldn't? LOTS. because they're extremely competitive and many of them have a pain threshold that far surpasses a normal person.

i realize baseball isn't all that popular over there... but pitchers are easily the BEST example of the lack of good judgment players tend to have regarding their ability to play.

however, assuming you ever played sports and may have been hurt, i know from first-hand experience that you get back up and try to go even when you shouldn't. if you're a competitive person THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS. so... refute the accuracy of my statement regarding the desire of athletes to participate (even when the shouldn't) with something that is cogent... or save the laughs.

if Forsberg's groin is ok... i'm going to have to argue that Eric Lindros' head is OK.
 
Jazz said:
My mistake for not clarifiying - but Clarke came out and said that he 'should' be able to forbid Forsberg from going... :shakehead
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ah... if i was the General Manager of a team and my entire job was putting that team together under a salary cap system that makes my job very complicated, i'd want that ability to. seriously... what's the big deal?

Clarke also publicly stated his support for going to Torino...
 
RangerBoy said:
If Forsberg re-injures his groin playing in the Olympics,the Flyers should garnish his salary.It's ridiculous :shakehead
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What about Elias, Hasek or any of the other players that probably will get injured during this tourney?
 
Leo Naphta said:
I thought so.

Physicians would be almost helpless if they were not, as you suggest, allowed to trust first person reports from patients.
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you're RIGHT!

that's why they ordered MRI's...

players lie to trainers/physicians all the time to try and get out on the field... are you serious?
 
Leo Naphta said:
Well, Forsbergs MRI they never indicated a damage, so...
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actually they all indicated damage... the one last week showed that it hadn't healed nearly as much as they had hoped... and the one the Swedish doctors did led the guy to say it was only 50/50 he was going to be able to play....

yeah, those sound like clean MRI's.

if you think you can trust a player talking to a doctor that wants to be playing rather than in the training room, you're kidding yourself.

SectionX said:
give it up jester. You alreayd lost. Forsberg will play
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lost? i said from the start that as soon as he got on that plane to torino he was going to play... this is the least shocking thing in the world. however, i think people are delusional if they think he's actually 100%.
 
Jester said:
actually they all indicated damage... the one last week showed that it hadn't healed nearly as much as they had hoped... and the one the Swedish doctors did led the guy to say it was only 50/50 he was going to be able to play....
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Got a link that corroborates that?

The Swedish doctors never performed a MRI.
 
SectionX said:
You already lost. Forsberg will play :handclap:
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We all lose if he reinjures himself. I don't know how good he's going to be to Sweden playing hurt anyway. It's a lose-lose situation. I don't think anyone can doubt that he's not 100%. Groin injuries dont' just go away like that. I just really hope he knows what he's doing.
 
Leo Naphta said:
Got a link that corroborates that?

The Swedish doctors never performed a MRI.
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picked that up in a thread here somewhere... guess it was just the one in philly (which showed that it wasn't healed).

Lion of the North said:
He's been resting for 3+ weeks, and his groin is now ok, whatis the problem?
Or do you honestly think he's lying to us all?
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define lying?

i think he feels "good enough to go"... i don't think "good enough to go" equates to 100%, no.
 
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I think u Philly fans should be happy about him resting the first 2 and showing both the Flyers and Swedish fans respect.

Anyway, this will be great for us.

Go Peter! :handclap:
 
Anybody from Philadelphia that realizes what kind of Forsberg you get back when sweden wins gold?
 
Force said:
Anybody from Philadelphia that realizes what kind of Forsberg you get back when sweden wins gold?
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he's already won a gold.... probably the same one that was a force of nature before.
 
Jester said:
define lying?

i think he feels "good enough to go"... i don't think "good enough to go" equates to 100%, no.
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Some quotes from the swedish doctors:

Tre Kronor-ledningen hoppades att sex dagars full vila skulle ha läkt den lilla bristningen som fortfarande syntes på röntgenplåtarna i söndags.
De fick rätt.
Tre Kronors läkare Lennart Hovelius bedömer att Forsberg inte tar några risker genom att spela.
– Inte om vi matchar honom försiktigt. Vi bedömer att ljumsken är läkt, det ska inte vara några problem, säger han till TT.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,780431,00.html
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Translation:

The managment of "Tre Kronor" was hoping that six days of complete rest would heal up the small tear that was still visible on x-rays last sunday.
They were right.
Tre Kronor doctor Lennart Hovelius says that Forsberg is not taking any chances by playing.
- Not if we start easy (Forsberg is set on the 4th line tommorow against Latvia). Our judgement is that the groin is healed, there shouldnt be any problems, he says to TT (a news agency).
 
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