Pavel Buchnevich
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He actually played three, but didn't face any shots in the first game. Doesn't mean he can't win the award though.
Prospect Info: Igor Shestyorkin Part I
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He actually played three, but didn't face any shots in the first game. Doesn't mean he can't win the award though.
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He actually played three, but didn't face any shots in the first game. Doesn't mean he can't win the award though.
Very true
I think even they are trying to convince the coach to play him in the finals.
Pavel Buchnevich
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Does the contract expire after 18-19 or 19-20?
http://thehockeywriters.com/five-khl-breakout-ready-prospects/
Did Shestyorkin have a season left on his current contract before signing the 3 year extension? That would 19-20.
http://thehockeywriters.com/five-khl-breakout-ready-prospects/
Did Shestyorkin have a season left on his current contract before signing the 3 year extension? That would 19-20.
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He signed the extrension this year, but from what russian sources have said, the final season of his previous contract was voided when he signed the new one.
His currently contract goes till the end of 19-20 i believe..
Irishguy42
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His contract goes until 2019, since he signed a new three year deal that voided the current deal and started pro-rated for this season.
So, two seasons remaining.
So, two seasons remaining.
Pavel Buchnevich
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And also, there's a chance the final year could be bought out. If Sorokin is playing NA next season, I think that sets forth the idea that the same thing can happen with Shestyorkin the following season.
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Think it was dumb for him to sign an extension. It was obvious that the decline of Lundqvist has started.
Obvious? He was a top 3 goalie in the league last season but OK buddy...
Personally i think it was smart by Shestyorkin to re-sign, summer 2019 will be a perfect time for him to come over.
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By the time his contract expires in 2019, he will be 23. Want to guess how old Lundqvist was when he made his NHL debut?
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Pavel Buchnevich
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Imagine if he doesn't pan out in the NHL...
I see no hockey reason why he wouldn't. And he's not even that far from NHL ready. If he was playing in our organization right now, he would probably have been called up this season instead of Hellberg.
People don't realize that Shestyorkin's pretty much been elite for a goalie prospect for like five years. He's not having a flash in the pan season, he's always been this good. He's just now getting more attention. Take a look at his stats through the different seasons.
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Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Why wasn't Buchnevich drafted higher? What about Kaprizov? Why did Sorokin go undrafted in the first draft he was eligible for? Why was Panarin not drafted? Teams still have no clue how to scout Russia. Also, Red Line Report ranked him as the 41st best player in the draft at the time, second best goalie, their highest ranked goalie was ranked 39th, so he was pretty much in contention for their top goalie spot.
This is what they said in the blurb, I find this very telling of the mindset with Russian players in the draft. Red Line Report completely hit on that scouting report. They knew what they were saying, others didn't.
http://www.redlinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/2014-Draft-Guide-sampler.pdf
Shestyorkin had played 9 games in the KHL before being drafted and kept a SV% above .900%, which is very good for a goalie in the KHL at age 18. At most, only like one or two who are first year draft eligibles play more than a game or two in the KHL before their first draft, and rarely are they goalies. This guy got 9 games before he was draft eligible, and the previous season posted a .937% at the WJC-18 as the second youngest goalie at the tournament. Just because people didn't pay attention doesn't mean he wasn't elite.
To answer my own question. Without knowing the team or league it's hard to know, but doesn't look good.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160381
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=160381
Pavel Buchnevich
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Yeah, McDonald isn't that good. That 2014 draft produced a lot of good goalies though.
And I was looking back on the thread when we drafted Shestyorkin, one of the more knowledgeable Russian posters came into that thread, and said this about Shestyorkin. Another person who hit on the scouting report. I'm glad the Rangers did though, thats what matters.
And I was looking back on the thread when we drafted Shestyorkin, one of the more knowledgeable Russian posters came into that thread, and said this about Shestyorkin. Another person who hit on the scouting report. I'm glad the Rangers did though, thats what matters.
Damn, that's above Sorokin and that goalie, I think on the Caps (Samsonov?). Impressive.
I'd put Shestyorkin in the category of an initially very good prospect who upped his game to elite-level the past year or two. The only Russian goalie I consider truly elite from the beginning is Vasilevsky, who backstopped Russia's WJC 3 years in a row. Maybe Samsonov to a lesser extent.
You'd think if Stestyorkin was under-the-radar in North America but still elite in his draft year he'd have played a much bigger role for Russian junior teams; similar to under-the-radar Buchnevich, Kaprizov, etc. did.
If I remember correctly he only played in 1 WJC, sharing time with Sorokin and was beaten out by Nalimov for Vasilevsky's back-up the previous year.
You'd think if Stestyorkin was under-the-radar in North America but still elite in his draft year he'd have played a much bigger role for Russian junior teams; similar to under-the-radar Buchnevich, Kaprizov, etc. did.
If I remember correctly he only played in 1 WJC, sharing time with Sorokin and was beaten out by Nalimov for Vasilevsky's back-up the previous year.
BTW, I'm the furthest thing from PC, but some of the comments about the players by the Red Line are a bit much even to me.
Pavel Buchnevich
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He's not Vasilevskiy who's basically like a generational goalie prospect.
I think he was beaten out for a spot on the the 2014 WJC team by two guys, but the fact he was even in consideration is telling that he was highly rated. Russia almost always takes incredibly old rosters. Almost all their players are 19 year olds. Shestyorkin would've been 17 at the start of the tournament, he turned 18 during it. He was born on December 30th, so that definitely works against him. He would've had to make the team before being draft-eligible, and Russia rarely ever takes first year draft eligibles. They probably do it even less than Canada does.
I think he was beaten out for a spot on the the 2014 WJC team by two guys, but the fact he was even in consideration is telling that he was highly rated. Russia almost always takes incredibly old rosters. Almost all their players are 19 year olds. Shestyorkin would've been 17 at the start of the tournament, he turned 18 during it. He was born on December 30th, so that definitely works against him. He would've had to make the team before being draft-eligible, and Russia rarely ever takes first year draft eligibles. They probably do it even less than Canada does.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
The first game of the Gagarin Cup Final is tomorrow at 8AM on Eleven Sports in the NY area.
It hasn't been announced whether Shestyorkin or Koskinen will play tomorrow, but one of the assistant coach's did say that both goalies are ready to play.
It hasn't been announced whether Shestyorkin or Koskinen will play tomorrow, but one of the assistant coach's did say that both goalies are ready to play.
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