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Player Discussion Igor Shesterkin

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ChicagoBlues said:
Anyone who is good enough to perform well enough behind a solid D and bottom-6. If Drury re-signs Shesty at an astronomical number, then it is in my opinion that that will hinder roster balance, meaning a not good enough bottom-6. And, no, I don't need to post a solution to the goalie problem. That's for Drury and his team to figure out.

The Blues won the Cup, in large part, because it was such a pain in the ass to play against our bottom-6 that year. Pretty much every Cup team needs adequate skill and grit in the bottom-6 and, unfortunately, Drury and co. hasn't been able to identify the right bottom-6 players.

You see a trend here? I am firmly in the camp that would never sign Shesty to such a huge number because it will cause roster imbalance and more frustrating playoff exits.

That's my two bits......could be wrong......
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If Chytil stays relatively healthy I think we could have our best 3rd line since the AV days.
 
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ChicagoBlues said:
Anyone who is good enough to perform well enough behind a solid D and bottom-6. If Drury re-signs Shesty at an astronomical number, then it is in my opinion that that will hinder roster balance, meaning a not good enough bottom-6. And, no, I don't need to post a solution to the goalie problem. That's for Drury and his team to figure out.

The Blues won the Cup, in large part, because it was such a pain in the ass to play against our bottom-6 that year. Pretty much every Cup team needs adequate skill and grit in the bottom-6 and, unfortunately, Drury and co. hasn't been able to identify the right bottom-6 players.

You see a trend here? I am firmly in the camp that would never sign Shesty to such a huge number because it will cause roster imbalance and more frustrating playoff exits.

That's my two bits......could be wrong......
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I'm sorry, but the bolded is a cop-out. It assumes there is a solution when there may not be, or at least, not an immediate one, which was exactly my point regarding the Buchnevich trade. We thought we had solutions and none of them have worked.

The Blues won the cup on the back of a goalie who played lights out. They were in last place with the same team in front of a different goalie.

I don't disagree with your point about roster balance, but finding a viable replacement isn't easy. On top of that, the Rangers are typically regarded as a team that relies on its goaltending to a high degree. Replacing Shesty isn't going to magically change that. The Rangers would absolutely take a step back, and it might be years before they get back to the same level, what with some of their best players on the wrong side of 30.
 
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GAGLine said:
I'm sorry, but the bolded is a cop-out. It assumes there is a solution when there may not be, or at least, not an immediate one, which was exactly my point regarding the Buchnevich trade. We thought we had solutions and none of them have worked.

The Blues won the cup on the back of a goalie who played lights out. They were in last place with the same team in front of a different goalie.

I don't disagree with your point about roster balance, but finding a viable replacement isn't easy. On top of that, the Rangers are typically regarded as a team that relies on its goaltending to a high degree. Replacing Shesty isn't going to magically change that. The Rangers would absolutely take a step back, and it might be years before they get back to the same level, what with some of their best players on the wrong side of 30.
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Yes it would take years. After all I’m told all the time here that you need a great 1C. So until that magical bean falls in our lap to take our mediocre goalie of the future to the promised land. We’re a worse team
 
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Yes it would take years. After all I’m told all the time here that you need a great 1C. So until that magical bean falls in our lap to take our mediocre goalie of the future to the promised land. We’re a worse team
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The Oilers have 2 great #1Cs and haven't won anything.

There are many ways to build a winning team and I do believe you can do it with a high $ goalie. It's on the GM to figure out how to make it all work.

You don't write Shesty a blank check but I'm a firm believer that you should hang on to the talent you have because there's no guarantee you'll be able to find similar/better talent elsewhere.

Also, just because we didn't win with Hank doesn't mean we can't with Shesty. Different teams and different competition. It's extremely hard to win the cup.
 
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GAGLine said:
I'm sorry, but the bolded is a cop-out. It assumes there is a solution when there may not be, or at least, not an immediate one, which was exactly my point regarding the Buchnevich trade. We thought we had solutions and none of them have worked.

The Blues won the cup on the back of a goalie who played lights out. They were in last place with the same team in front of a different goalie.

I don't disagree with your point about roster balance, but finding a viable replacement isn't easy. On top of that, the Rangers are typically regarded as a team that relies on its goaltending to a high degree. Replacing Shesty isn't going to magically change that. The Rangers would absolutely take a step back, and it might be years before they get back to the same level, what with some of their best players on the wrong side of 30.
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It’s not a cop out. If I told the IT guy about a problem with the computer systems, do you think he will expect a non-IT guy to have a solution ready to go? Nope.
 
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Yet you have no problem saying that the IT guy should let Shesty walk.
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Correctomundo Fonzarelli!

I think you’re catching on. I am a die-hard NYR fan. Always have been. It’s because I wore a Rangers jersey when I was a kid in the 70s.

To your other point, I’m not creating a problem to solve. There IS a goalie problem to solve. Whom they could/should bring in? IDK

So, I’m gonna let Drury fix my IT problem.

Cheerio!
 
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Yeah no. He has been amazing, but every season some random goalie have cinderella season. With Bobrovski Panthers dodget a bullet his contract didn't cripple their championship aspirations.

I understand his claim to demand a big payday, but not like 4-5m more AAV than Saros or Hellebuyck.

We have lot of talent. They also have to get paid. All of them should start taking little less if they want to win something.

I know they will sign him, but maybe I hope Drury show some backbone. I doubt of course because the offer was already 11m.
 
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Only way I trade Shesty is if I get a legit superstar coming back. If not you have to write the check (within reason). I will say it took some real guts to turn down that deal. Anything could happen this season. Injury, slump, not making the playoffs. If any of those things happen that 11 could drop below 9 fast.
 
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This makes no sense to me, he's almost 29. In 5 years he'll be 34 and he won't get as much on his next contract. So over the next 8 years under this option he will get paid significantly less.
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What if his best days are behind him? Lets move on
 
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Igor can be the highest paid goalie in the league. I have no issue with that. But he can't be the highest paid player on the Rangers. That makes no sense to me. That distinction should be for someone who, if healthy, plays every game.
 
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