Player Discussion Igor Shesterkin (Placed on IR)

[Peltz]

Really just need management to have a line and not cross it. I have no problem if Shesty wants to go for the bag. We just can't give him a full one.

Agreed. He earned it. Not 12 though.

 

[Hire Sather]

Guy is trying to sink the franchise.

Because if he gets what he asks for that's what will happen.

Trade him and let him get it elsewhere.

Or go for it one more year and let him walk.

Anything is better than paying him 12 mil

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Expected Jacob Trouba trade could have Patrick Kane ramifications

The Post has learned that Patrick Kane was still in talks Saturday with Detroit.

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5. The gulp may be even larger than you imagine with The Post having been told that Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract under which the goaltender would start with 14 percent of the cap, which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M under an expected $92M cap for 2025-26.

 

[Hire Sather]

Expected Jacob Trouba trade could have Patrick Kane ramifications

The Post has learned that Patrick Kane was still in talks Saturday with Detroit.

nypost.com

5. The gulp may be even larger than you imagine with The Post having been told that Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract under which the goaltender would start with 14 percent of the cap, which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M under an expected $92M cap for 2025-26.

I believe it is impossible for a goaltender to be worth that much when you look at how the game is played today.

Or even 10 years ago.

It could be argued that we had the goaltending advantage in every single series while Henrik played for this team.

What did it get us?

 

[Greschner4]

Can't give him that much money, or anything close. Goalies aren't worth that much.

Time for Plan B. That's a lot of money that could be freed up.

 

[GG96]

If you improve the D, you don’t have to pay him that.

See ya Troubs

 

[Greschner4]

Igor's an excellent goalie. He's really never "stolen" playoff games, much less series. OK, he played really well against Florida this year. They didn't win.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Igor is elite.

We need to stop building around an elite goalie trying to cover up our flaws.

He's worth a lot of money, but not for us.

Build an elite team for once.

 

[Daves a mess]

12.9? Haha.

No.

Trade him for a haul, and get a goalie that stops a little more than 9 out of 10 shots that come his way.

9.9. And I'm feeling really generous right now.. And it only goes down from there.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I find it funny nobody minded handing Panarin 15% of our salary cap in 2020, but Igor now wants that, the guy who year after year is our best playoff performer, and now they are up in arms.

How about getting rid of Panarin who no shows anyway in the playoffs to pay for the guy who DOES show up in the playoffs? Or we can just get rid of Igor, get some average goalie, and have them pull an Anderson and give up 3 softies in a single playoff game.

 

[NikC]

it really is encouraging to see how many people are on the same page with NOT PAYING a goalie that much $$.

Say what you want.. but Drury is all business right now, and he has ice water in his veins....

I don't see him paying above $9m for igor... even $8!

Trade him! Please build a competent team in front of the goalie... let's not do this again with Lundqvist 2.0

 

[The Crypto Guy]

it really is encouraging to see how many people are on the same page with NOT PAYING a goalie that much $$.

Say what you want.. but Drury is all business right now, and he has ice water in his veins....

I don't see him paying above $9m for igor... even $8!

Trade him! Please build a competent team in front of the goalie... let's not do this again with Lundqvist 2.0

What are we going to get with that whole extra 3M if we give him 9M instead of 12M? Another Goodrow maybe? Not sure why you think you can build a competent team with a few extra million.

Want a competent team, stop signing mentally weak players who disappear when the big games start like Mika and Panarin.

 

[broadwayblue]

it really is encouraging to see how many people are on the same page with NOT PAYING a goalie that much $$.

Say what you want.. but Drury is all business right now, and he has ice water in his veins....

I don't see him paying above $9m for igor... even $8!

Trade him! Please build a competent team in front of the goalie... let's not do this again with Lundqvist 2.0

Do you truly believe Drury isn't going to give him north of 8M? Hopefully they can get a deal done for 9.5M, but my guess is he gets at least 10.

 

[Daves a mess]

I find it funny nobody minded handing Panarin 15% of our salary cap in 2020, but Igor now wants that, the guy who year after year is our best playoff performer, and now they are up in arms.

How about getting rid of Panarin who no shows anyway in the playoffs to pay for the guy who DOES show up in the playoffs? Or we can just get rid of Igor, get some average goalie, and have them pull an Anderson and give up 3 softies in a single playoff game.

I just came out of Publix and they didn't have black and whites.


Now at 9.8.

 

[TGWL]

I find it funny nobody minded handing Panarin 15% of our salary cap in 2020, but Igor now wants that, the guy who year after year is our best playoff performer, and now they are up in arms.

How about getting rid of Panarin who no shows anyway in the playoffs to pay for the guy who DOES show up in the playoffs? Or we can just get rid of Igor, get some average goalie, and have them pull an Anderson and give up 3 softies in a single playoff game.

#1 LW in points since signing that contract.
#4 Forward in Points. Behind...well, you can guess the top 3.

I get it, we only remember playoff performances and maybe that money can be used elsewhere on players who can battle and perform in the playoffs, but it's hard to be mad at that signing when it comes to the percentage used. Meanwhile, Igor hasn't been spectacular in the last 2 regular seasons. It's a bit easier to be up in arms over a player who performed in 16 games, wanting 14% of the cap/long term when he'll turn 30.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

#1 LW in points since signing that contract.
#4 Forward in Points. Behind...well, you can guess the top 3.

I get it, we only remember playoff performances and maybe that money can be used elsewhere on players who can battle and perform in the playoffs, but it's hard to be mad at that signing when it comes to the percentage used. Meanwhile, Igor hasn't been spectacular in the last 2 regular seasons. It's a bit easier to be up in arms over a player who performed in 16 games, wanting 14% of the cap/long term when he'll turn 30.

And Igor is a top 3 goalie so I'm not sure why people expect him to get low balled, 8M offers are ridiculous.

Should we give him 13M? No, but if we can compromise on around 10M-10.5 then I'm pretty sure Drury will sign that relatively quickly.

 

[TGWL]

And Igor is a top 3 goalie so I'm not sure why people expect him to get low balled, 8M offers are ridiculous.

Should we give him 13M? No, but if we can compromise on around 10M-10.5 then I'm pretty sure Drury will sign that relatively quickly.

And the other top goalies recently signed for under 10. Oettinger, Swayman and Ullmark will be the next in line to sign contracts.

Shesterkin hasn't been a top 3 goalie in the regular season for 2 years.

8m is what fans are comfortable with because of the long term fear. Some fans just don't want a long term contract any at decent cap. Igor is obviously getting more than 8 million. 10m is clearly different than the 12.9 ask. But it's easy to see why fans are up in arms over something being reported as 3 million over 10, regardless of a player starting high in the asking price.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

And the other top goalies recently signed for under 10. Oettinger, Swayman and Ullmark will be the next in line to sign contracts.

Shesterkin hasn't been a top 3 goalie in the regular season for 2 years.

8m is what fans are comfortable with because of the long term fear. Some fans just don't want a long term contract any at decent cap. Igor is obviously getting more than 8 million. 10m is clearly different than the 12.9 ask. But it's easy to see why fans are up in arms over something being reported as 3 million over 10, regardless of a player starting high in the asking price.

He was 4th last season according to Vezina voting. Fact is he is consistently a top goalie in the league.

Oettinger is a good goalie but he's not even close to top 5, despite how overrated he got for that one playoff series a couple years ago.

Swayman will get a nice bump but he's only played 150 games (including playoffs), while Igor has over 250.

Ullmark is already 30 and I don't think Sens are going to commit to giving him a big contract until they see how he plays as a true #1 guy for their team.

 

[jniklast]

It's a negotiation, of course Igor is asking for more than he will get. I'd be fine with 10M, maybe even 11M. He does perform in the playoffs.

 

[Circus86]

He was 4th last season according to Vezina voting. Fact is he is consistently a top goalie in the league.

I don't care about Vezina voting. He wasn't close to 4th in any of the important stats.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I don't care about Vezina voting. He wasn't close to 4th in any of the important stats.

Ok, how about the important stats in the playoffs, when the games really matter?

 

[NikC]

What are we going to get with that whole extra 3M if we give him 9M instead of 12M? Another Goodrow maybe? Not sure why you think you can build a competent team with a few extra million.

Want a competent team, stop signing mentally weak players who disappear when the big games start like Mika and Panarin.

its not the $3m dollar player that makes the difference.. but's its that $3m towards the player we need...

First off, i'm not even down for paying him $9m. I don't want the rangers to dedicate that kind of salary to a goalie again... i'm not sure they walk away from him... but I can't see Drury giving him a payday either.

He's won NOTHING. And imo, without the stellar play of Quick behind him, or any really compentent backup... I don't think he would have had as strong of a season. He's not a durable goalie, like Henrik... he can't handle a heavy workload.

I really hope Drury walks away from him altogether if they are looking beyond $8.5

 

[The Crypto Guy]

its not the $3m dollar player that makes the difference.. but's its that $3m towards the player we need...

First off, i'm not even down for paying him $9m. I don't want the rangers to dedicate that kind of salary to a goalie again... i'm not sure they walk away from him... but I can't see Drury giving him a payday either.

He's won NOTHING. And imo, without the stellar play of Quick behind him, or any really compentent backup... I don't think he would have had as strong of a season. He's not a durable goalie, like Henrik... he can't handle a heavy workload.

I really hope Drury walks away from him altogether if they are looking beyond $8.5

He won the Vezina 3 years ago and nominated for the Hart?

 

[TGWL]

He was 4th last season according to Vezina voting. Fact is he is consistently a top goalie in the league.

Oettinger is a good goalie but he's not even close to top 5, despite how overrated he got for that one playoff series a couple years ago.

Swayman will get a nice bump but he's only played 150 games (including playoffs), while Igor has over 250.

Ullmark is already 30 and I don't think Sens are going to commit to giving him a big contract until they see how he plays as a true #1 guy for their team.

Shesterkin will be turning 30 when that new contract kicks in. Who are your top 3 goalies?

 

[JohnC]

I’d give him the Vasi contract adjusted for inflation and trade him if he wants more.

That’ll be what? Like ~$10.6M?