Player Discussion Igor Shesterkin (Placed on IR)

[LeetchisGod]

We are spoiled.

 

[aufheben]

The “Rangers-fans-overrated-their-players” crowd has really been taking it on the chin recently.

 

[aufheben]

Igor is on a planet so far away from earth that I can’t even remember which goalie duds were supposed to be better than him.

 

[aufheben]

This also makes me chuckle:

 

[aufheben]

MFW these tweets* aren’t from March—or February—but from f***ing January.



*Obviously just small fan polls.

 

[Synergy27]

I want to avoid hyperbole, but Igor is the best goalie I have ever seen. Plenty of goalies have of course had hot seasons so I'm not electing him to the HOF yet, but his total control of the game from the crease is unlike anything I've seen.

 

[EdJovanovski]

This guy is our franchise player, far above Fox.

 

[2Leetch_94]

 

[aufheben]

I want to avoid hyperbole, but Igor is the best goalie I have ever seen. Plenty of goalies have of course had hot seasons so I'm not electing him to the HOF yet, but his total control of the game from the crease is unlike anything I've seen.

So did I, but I made this same statement verbatim tonight.

Don’t forget that he nearly scored a f***ing goal too.

 

[hi]

So did I, but I made this same statement verbatim tonight.

Don’t forget that he nearly scored a f***ing goal too.

It is unfair to compare Shesterkin to Plante since Plante was allowed to stop pucks with his face. I can't even imagine what Igor's numbers would look like if he wasn't forced to wear such an obtrusive piece of equipment.

 

[egelband]

What if he was allowed to use the gigantic pads and blockers current goalies wear.

how would current goalies do playing with no friggin’ mask?

Yep. Or facing the top 90 players instead of the top 620.
Surely there are advantages and disadvantages for goalies today as compared to yesteryear. But I think more or less the stats translate.

 

[Synergy27]

I gotta say, this statement probably comes from a place of privilege, but I’ve always been against paying goalies huge salaries. Typically the difference between the top goalie and the second tier isn’t big enough to warrant the pay difference and it causes you to be weak in other roster areas. I always felt like Hank being so good, and being paid accordingly, created a chicken and egg scenario where we could never really build a good enough team around him.

We are eventually going to find ourselves in a similar situation with Shesty. Thankfully he is locked in at such a reasonable rate for the foreseeable future.

 

[Doctyl]

Igor is on a planet so far away from earth that I can’t even remember which goalie duds were supposed to be better than him.

There are some canucks fans who think Demko deserves Hart votes for his sub .920 season

 

[rangersfansince08]

There are some canucks fans who think Demko deserves Hart votes for his sub .920 season

Any links to those posts?

 

[Rongomania]

If Ovi and Matthews were out there ripping shots on Plante the dude would let up so many goals, come on. How dynamic these shooters are today is not getting enough cred.

Shest is positively f*cking incredible.

 

[romba]

If Ovi and Matthews were out there ripping shots on Plante the dude would let up so many goals, come on. How dynamic these shooters are today is not getting enough cred.

Shest is positively f*cking incredible.

Give Ovi and Matthews the no-flex old time wood sticks and see how they do. Or give Plante the equipment and training from today’s goalies…it really does both ways and isn’t so clear cut

 

[duhmetreE]

Give Ovi and Matthews the no-flex old time wood sticks and see how they do. Or give Plante the equipment and training from today’s goalies…it really does both ways and isn’t so clear cut

Come on.... Ovi in the 60's or would be obliterating the competition.

 

[Doctyl]

Any links to those posts?

Demko thread on their board. They’re also pissy in the Igor vs Demko poll if you aren’t impressed with Demko’s .917

 

[duhmetreE]

Demko thread on their board. They’re also pissy in the Igor vs Demko poll if you aren’t impressed with Demko’s .917

tbf .917 is a good to very good save% . Anything above .920 is great.

it's just that .940 is other worldly and absurd

 

[SnowblindNYR]

There are some canucks fans who think Demko deserves Hart votes for his sub .920 season

But muh PK leaving him out to dry.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Give Ovi and Matthews the no-flex old time wood sticks and see how they do. Or give Plante the equipment and training from today’s goalies…it really does both ways and isn’t so clear cut

The players back then stumbled in drunk and smoked in between periods. Most "stars" of those eras wouldn't even crack the 4th line of an NHL team today. They are just far superior athletes today.

 

[Fitzy]

Last offseason I suggested giving Shesty a one year bridge to prove himself before committing to a long term extension.

I have to say- I shudder at the thought of what the AAV would look like had we gone that direction.

One of my biggest “well that would have been dumb if I was the GM” moments. Probably up there with wanting to trade for Julius Honka

 

[EdJovanovski]

Last offseason I suggested giving Shesty a one year bridge to prove himself before committing to a long term extension.

I have to say- I shudder at the thought of what the AAV would look like had we gone that direction.

One of my biggest “well that would have been dumb if I was the GM” moments. Probably up there with wanting to trade for Julius Honka

I wanted 8x8

 

[Harbour Dog]

The players back then stumbled in drunk and smoked in between periods. Most "stars" of those eras wouldn't even crack the 4th line of an NHL team today. They are just far superior athletes today.

Without the players of that era fighting tooth and nail for the Cup every season, today's guys wouldn't have the privilege of making an obscene amount of money playing a game.

And that money is the incentive that drives competition to be the most well-honed athlete possible. Obviously players today are bigger, faster, and more skilled on average, with so much more at stake.

But there's a way to talk about it without shitting on the history of the sport.

 

[duhmetreE]

I wanted 8x8

I wanted at least 5 years