If the Leafs were to trade anyone on the roster right now, who is on the block?

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People still saying Nylander :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: faith in humanity = lost

I think it's fair to want more out of Nylander. He's been okay this season.

The first game against Montreal was probably one of the 5 best games I've seen him play. Engaged on the forecheck, confident with his shooting.

Since then, he's been hit and miss with how much he wants to be involved in games. And the problem is, when he's not scoring, you don't see much of him doing anything else.
 
Ideally, you can convert Kerfoot, Vesey, Engvall and Dermott into more impactful or specialized components. A lot of vanilla there.
 
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I want to win as many cups as possible with this core, that's the only priority.

Right, I think that's everyone's goal. But I'm asking your opinion on what you'd prefer.

I guess I should phrase a different scenario for you. If you had the chance to face of of Tampa or Boston in the first two rounds or Montreal or Winnipeg in the first two rounds, which one would you prefer? And you were guaranteed that you had to face one.
 
Right, I think that's everyone's goal. But I'm asking your opinion on what you'd prefer.

I guess I should phrase a different scenario for you. If you had the chance to face of of Tampa or Boston in the first two rounds or Montreal or Winnipeg in the first two rounds, which one would you prefer? And you were guaranteed that you had to face one.

I think we're all happy we don't have to worry about Boston or TB in the first two rounds. BTW, I added to my earlier post, you might want to have a look.
 
Via this site? Whoever did not score or play well over the last couple of weeks. It shifts constantly like the fickle mass of opinions.

Bingo

People still saying Nylander :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: faith in humanity = lost

When you wish upon a staaarrrr

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But then aren't we in a position where we're going to lose a much better player in the expansion draft then we otherwise would? That's a cost that has to be factored in to what we give up in a trade unless I'm missing something, it seems like a lot.

Yeah you're right. This is why why I only wanted to target UFA....and you're right this price would be a bit high for a UFA.
 
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Yeah you're right. This is why why I only wanted to target UFA....and you're right this price would be a bit high for a UFA.

Yeah I loved the Muzzin trade (and trades of that type in general) but we probably have to wait until after the expansion draft to make another move like that.
 
People who are talking about trading Kerfoot, Engvall, Dermott, etc need to realize none of the above players will bring back a significant return that would truly upgrade our team. There's 2 players who I'd look to move that would dramatically change our team. They are Nylander and Rielly.

As one poster said, when Nylander isn't engaged, he's not doing much of anything and I don't know what it is but the last couple of games, he just seems uninterested. He doesn't seem engaged at all. Not skating, not shooting and well, definitely not willing to get into the dirty areas to make plays.

Rielly is having probably is worst season as a leaf. People will bring up his points and say he's been great when really, any defenseman playing 24 minutes a night and on our top pp would be getting these points as well. His defensive game is abysmal, and his lack of iq and offense is horrible. Considering he'll be needing a new deal soon, I would look at moving him now and getting a significant package back in return.
 
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Kerfoots finishing is frustrating to be honest so if there is an upgrade there I'd consider it but he's a fine player overall.
 
I think it's fair to want more out of Nylander. He's been okay this season.

The first game against Montreal was probably one of the 5 best games I've seen him play. Engaged on the forecheck, confident with his shooting.

Since then, he's been hit and miss with how much he wants to be involved in games. And the problem is, when he's not scoring, you don't see much of him doing anything else.


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Kerfoot and Vesey are the only ones I would trade.

Not willing to give up on Dermott. I still think he's good and has the potential to be a lot better. His value isn't high enough compared to how good he is and his potential. Could be another Anton Strålman situation.
 
Kerfoot is meh, but we need a different 3c back in a trade immediately. Vesey doesn't have any value. The only guy that I think we'd be open to moving who might get some interesting pieces back would be Dermott, and that's as part of a package.
 
Watching some of their play on TV lately has made many eyes bleed as well.
The Leafs are leading the division in GA/GP and shots against/GP and our #1D is making eyes bleed? That's the problem of the eye bleeders, see an optometrist. And TBH anyone looking to ship Willy out, 12p in 15g into a season, especially after last years, deserves similar duty in the optometrist's chair.

There's complaining about players, and then there's complaining about players because nobody knows how to do anything else. First place in the division by a country mile, core players are NOT on the trading block and it's asinine loser behavior to think they are.
 
The Leafs are leading the division in GA/GP and shots against/GP and our #1D is making eyes bleed? That's the problem of the eye bleeders, see an optometrist. And TBH anyone looking to ship Willy out, 12p in 15g into a season, especially after last years, deserves similar duty in the optometrist's chair.

There's complaining about players, and then there's complaining about players because nobody knows how to do anything else. First place in the division by a country mile, core players are NOT on the trading block and it's asinine loser behavior to think they are.

Got my appointement booked for June ;)
 
I would trade Hyman if we got a good return for him. I think he'll be too expensive to resign. And with Thornton, Simmonds, and Robertson... I think we can spare Hyman when they're all back in the lineup.

I do like Hyman now... but I think we could live without him if we got a good return. I certainly don't want to pay him $4+ million to resign him. Someone might even pay him more than $5 million. So I would trade him now while he has value and get a nice return, rather than lose him for nothing next year.
 
Wouldn't it depend on who we are trading for?
That is my thought too. The only 4 players on the team that are almost certainly not going anywhere are Matthews, Tavaras, Spezza and Thornton. Players like Rielly, Muzzin and Marner are highly unlikely to move outside of a mega blockbuster. Nylander, Anderson and Hyman would only move if the Leafs really want the player the other team is offering. Anyone else on the roster could traded. I don't anticipate many moves this year.
 
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This wouldn't be my first choice to include in a trade however let's say by the trade deadline Dubas knows the Leafs are guaranteed to make the playoffs and he's done this before in the Jake Muzzin trade, would you be okay if he wanted to trade their 2021 1st round pick?
 
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#1 would easily be Barabanov, but he is so minor that people probably won't even mention it.

Dermott would probably be the only noticeable name that I would say ends up on this kind of list, and even then I doubt he is seriously on the block right now.
 
This wouldn't be my first choice to include in a trade however let's say by the trade deadline Dubas knows the Leafs are guaranteed to make the playoffs and he's done this before in the Jake Muzzin trade, would you be okay if he wanted to trade their 2021 1st round pick?

As always, that would be dependent on the return. I do prefer the trading of a 1st during the season more than I do during the offseason. I'd also typically expect any trade of that pick to be for a player with some term left on his contract. Trades could be different this season because of the expansion draft and Canada/U.S quarantine situation though. We have seen a blockbuster already, albeit one entirely involving players looking for a trade/change of scenery. A more recent trade was entirely made up of pending UFAs.
 

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