Speculation: If the 2027 Toronto pick lands in the top 10, the Leafs can choose whether it goes to Philly or Boston

[TheKrebsCycle]

Simple. They just make it part of the official ruling. leafs get to pick where it goes but cannot receive compensation to influence the decision. bada bing, bada boom, done deal.......per the NHL.

Right but how would they police a separate deal between Toronto and one of the teams in question ?

 

[Northernhawk]

The NHL should be ruling on these types of situations…FLA has also traded ‘the same pick’ to multiple teams…TOR obviously has…

 

[WTFMAN99]

Simple. They just make it part of the official ruling. leafs get to pick where it goes but cannot receive compensation to influence the decision. bada bing, bada boom, done deal.......per the NHL.

I think if that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

It could still happen of course if they want to issue an official "ruling" on this but unless they do, it frees up Toronto to squeeze something out of one of these teams.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

The NHL should be ruling on these types of situations…FLA has also traded ‘the same pick’ to multiple teams…TOR obviously has…

If 1sts from literally different years

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Right but how would they police a separate deal between Toronto and one of the teams in question ?

If you mean could the leafs and Bos or Phily do a back door deal, that would be pretty ballsy. I don't think any team would want to be that bold to tempt the league. Because getting caught doing that would be very ugly to the teams involved.

 

[Amadeus]

This is pretty significant if the pick ends up being top 10.

First of all, there is absolutely no guaranty that the Leafs will suck enough to be top 10 in 2028 so a team is taking a huge risk if they take a hard stand. There is no other way of saying but the teams would need to pony up assets to get the Leafs to decide who gets it.

This could get hillarious and I'm down for the journey!

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I think if that was going to happen, it would have happened already.

It could still happen of course if they want to issue an official "ruling" on this but unless they do, it frees up Toronto to squeeze something out of one of these teams.

That would be too simple. IMO, this league isn't that well run. I think if the league wants to rule no compensation to the leafs, they will wait till the finals are over so all the bitching moaning and fighting doesn't detract from Lord Stanley.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

32nd overall pick in the 2027 or 2028 draft. Both are going to be long shots / take time to develop so who cares.

 

[sd1976]

If they want to give their in division biggest rival Landon Dupont and be haunted with that decision for the next 10+ years all so they can get a sweetener, then more power to them.
The Flyers wont be extorted and are likely already annoyed at this situation so they wont play ball they will just take the pick when they get the pick. Calling their bluff.

lol you’re dreaming in technicolour if you think they won’t be falling all over themselves to sweeten the pot if it’s a top 5 pick.

 

[sd1976]

If they want to give their in division biggest rival Landon Dupont and be haunted with that decision for the next 10+ years all so they can get a sweetener, then more power to them.
The Flyers wont be extorted and are likely already annoyed at this situation so they wont play ball they will just take the pick when they get the pick. Calling their bluff.

lol you’re dreaming in technicolour if you think they won’t be falling all over themselves to sweeten the pot if it’s a top 5 pick.

No they don't. And no they won't. And no they didn't.

way way way, just cause you say it doesn’t make it true.

 

[T_Cage]

I don't really understand how Toronto was allowed to move pick they already traded away. They also realistically shouldn't be allowed to leverage the pick they moved to decide which team gets the selection. The Flyers own the 2027 1st round pick. It's no longer protected, because of a subsequent move the Maple Leafs decided to make that renders the protections on the 2027 pick invalid.

The protections on the pick are not invalid at all.
If the pick is 11-32, it goes to the Flyers
If it's 1-10, Toronto has the OPTION to send it to Phi or defer to 2028.

These were the protections, none of this has changed due to the pick owed Boston

In theory, any team could go to a team they owe a protected pick to and say "I don't have to send it this year because it's Top x Protected, but if you give me a sweetener I could". The only unique twist here is Toronto owes 2 teams picks, so they could ask both teams

Toronto negotiated this right into the 2 trades, why shouldn't they use it? It's no different from any other conditional pick, just more complex

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

32nd overall pick in the 2027 or 2028 draft. Both are going to be long shots / take time to develop so who cares.

Easy big fella

 

[JRichard]

Lets say Philly refuses to engage in bidding war if 27 pick is inside top 10?
End result is they get an unprotected 28th.

Isnt it better than agreed to 27th top 10 protected?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Lets say Philly refuses to engage in bidding war if 27 pick is inside top 10?
End result is they get an unprotected 28th.

Isnt it better than agreed to 27th top 10 protected?

Well, they would have a 27 top 10.
The 28 is an unknown it's like the new boat thing from Family Guy. _

 

[ToDavid]

Lets say Philly refuses to engage in bidding war if 27 pick is inside top 10?
End result is they get an unprotected 28th.

Isnt it better than agreed to 27th top 10 protected?

But the 27 is top 10 in this example. The protection is what gives Toronto the choice but if they choose to give the pick to Philly then the pick is the pick, the protection is no longer relevant.

 

[KMNRB]

Lets say Philly refuses to engage in bidding war if 27 pick is inside top 10?
End result is they get an unprotected 28th.

Isnt it better than agreed to 27th top 10 protected?

If it's #10, maybe.

But if it's #1 ... there'd surely be a bidding war for Landon Dupont.

So the way they articulate the trade clause is shrewd (esp by the Leafs' management standard) that retain some sort of insurance even if the keep the 2026 1st round pick. If disaster strikes (again), they can at least squeeze something out of it.

 

[DGLeafy]

Philly is getting that pick , but they should trade it to Montreal - and let us Leaf fans sweat it out.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Question...If philly traded the pick back to Toronto, would it automatically go to Boston?

 

[JRichard]

Question...If philly traded the pick back to Toronto, would it automatically go to Boston?

My understanding is that if it lands top 10 in 27, Tor can keep it and give Bos unprotected 28.

But whats the point of paying (meaning Tor would give Philly stuff) for that result?

 

[ToDavid]

Question...If philly traded the pick back to Toronto, would it automatically go to Boston?

I don’t suppose this has ever happened. Not just reacquiring a first round pick but that pick also being a condition in another trade.

I think it would go to intent. To me the intent of Boston trade is that it’s a regular conditional 2026 1st that can slide to 2027, unless that pick is unavailable (traded to Philly). So my guess is that the league would say if Toronto holds the 2027 pick it goes to Boston regardless of whether it was technically traded away and they separately re-acquired.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

how do you even let it get to this lol

 

[ColbyChaos]

32nd overall pick in the 2027 or 2028 draft. Both are going to be long shots / take time to develop so who cares.

Leafs can’t even win a round consistently and their fans think they win back to back cups is very on brand

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Non-issue. Leafs blow and will be bottom team for foreseeable future. 2028 likely be slightly more value as Matthews will be gone after next year.