If Jamie Benn wins the Stanley Cup this year, would this seal his entry to the HHOF?

[dalewood12]

Current career stats:

911 points in 1,121 regular season games
77 points in 102 playoff games
Five 70+ point seasons
Five 30+ goal seasons
2 All Star Games
1 Art Ross Trophy
1 Hart Trophy Finalist
1 Olympic Gold
1 World Cup Gold
1 World Junior Gold

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[Tebowz]

i don't think he's close at all even with a cup

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Hell no

 

[RRhoads]

Hahaha

 

[Sports2]

Hall of Very Good Mount Rushmore, quite possibly. But no Hall.

 

[mouser]

Benn had an amazing three year peak starting in 2013 with an Art Ross, two 1st team all-stars, and a 2nd team all-star.

Usually those accomplishments would have Benn solidly on a path to the HHoF. But imo he fell off so much after his peak that he needs more than a single Stanley Cup win to get a HHoF induction.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Benn had an amazing three year peak starting in 2013 with an Art Ross, two 1st team all-stars, and a 2nd team all-star.

Usually those accomplishments would have Benn solidly on a path to the HHoF. But imo he fell off so much after his peak that he needs more than a single Stanley Cup win to get a HHoF induction.

Pretty sure he won an Olympic gold in there as well.

Then again, so did Chris Kunitz.

Still though, Benn was good enough at the time to crack that roster.

If he wins a Cup with Dallas - and damn would that ever be sweet - he might still not be a HOF lock but I feel like he'd make it in eventually.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Current career stats:

911 points in 1,121 regular season games
77 points in 102 playoff games
Five 70+ point seasons
Five 30+ goal seasons
2 All Star Games
1 Art Ross Trophy
1 Hart Trophy Finalist
1 Olympic Gold
1 World Cup Gold
1 World Junior Gold

Remove the golds

Only Trophy he has won is the art ross in 2014/2015

30+ goal season unless you are in double digits mean nothing

He has only 1 40+ goal season

right is also not a pt per game player 911 pts in 1121 games

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Probably the weirdest Art Ross anyone has ever won.

I think he would need to get the Conn Smythe and have a historic playoff run to get considerstion even.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Sedins say no.

 

[Oneiro]

Think the game just changed and got so fast he couldn't sustain that kind of offensive pop.

And it did sort of seem like he got paid and coasted for a bit.

 

[archangel2]

my no vote comes with an *.

If he reaches 500 goals--he will more than likely get in. He is at 385 or 115 away--so if he plays 4 more years he might reach that and get in

 

[mouser]

my no vote comes with an *.

If he reaches 500 goals--he will more than likely get in. He is at 385 or 115 away--so if he plays 4 more years he might reach that and get in

Benn is 35 years old now, he’s scored 104 goals since hitting age 30–an average of 20.4 goals/season.

Another 115 goals is highly improbable.

 

[CanadienShark]

No. Outside of being one of the worst Art Ross winners in history, his career hasn't been particularly amazing. He was becoming an amazing power forward, but his peak was too short.

 

[Albatros]

Right after Brian Bellows.

 

[tarheelhockey]

A strange conjunction of events led to him winning an Art Ross with 87 points.

If that hadn’t happened, there would be zero suggestion of him as a Hall candidate.

The committee makes head-scratching decisions sometimes, but not to the extent of putting the guy in the Hall solely because he won a fluke scoring title.

 

[bossram]

I'm surprised that people are so pessimistic about him getting in. *If* he wins a Cup with Dallas, and assuming he plays another couple seasons, he would be the Captain of a Cup winner + 1000 points. Throw in an Art Ross. That pretty much gets you in.

And I really don't like Jamie Benn. But he's got a solid case.

 

[HFpapi]

His career is similar to Markus Naslund but IMO even slightly worse and Naslund isn't a HOF'er.

Naslund like Benn had an incredible 3-year peak (Benn has a Ross but Naslund was leading the league until the final day of the season and won the Pearson so pretty equal seasons).

Difference is Naslund had a legitimate claim for top 5 player in the world for a 3-year stretch and Benn was never top 15 even with the Ross.

A cup wouldn't be enough for Benn in any case but especially since he would most likely be a passenger on a Dallas cup-winning team this season.

Off hand, I would assume Robertson, HIntz, Heiskanen, Johnston, Duchene, Seguin, Stankoven, and of course Oettinger would be bigger factors in any success than Benn.

 

[bobholly39]

A Stanley Cup isn't a significant individual achievement. He'd need one of those to boost his HHOF chances.

If the thread was changed to - if Jamie Benn wins the cup this year along with a historic conn smythe performance - does he make the HHOF? That would have more weight to it. And even then - I'd say a smythe doesn't guarantee HHOF, but it certainly makes his case a lot more compelling. If the Smythe is a really strong one, it makes his case even better.

 

[Unspecified]

If Sundin can make it in with no individual award to speak of surely anything is possible.

 

[Romang67]

If Sundin can make it in with no individual award to speak of surely anything is possible.

I'm not sure you could have picked a worse comparison point if you tried. Sundin made the HHoF off his longevity as an elite player and off his international career. Benn played in one WC, one OG, and was an elite player for 3 seasons.

 

[wedge]

not even close. at least he's made his contract less horrible with his play the last two seasons

 

[hamzarocks]

His career is similar to Markus Naslund but IMO even slightly worse and Naslund isn't a HOF'er.

Naslund like Benn had an incredible 3-year peak (Benn has a Ross but Naslund was leading the league until the final day of the season and won the Pearson so pretty equal seasons).

Difference is Naslund had a legitimate claim for top 5 player in the world for a 3-year stretch and Benn was never top 15 even with the Ross.

A cup wouldn't be enough for Benn in any case but especially since he would most likely be a passenger on a Dallas cup-winning team this season.

Off hand, I would assume Robertson, HIntz, Heiskanen, Johnston, Duchene, Seguin, Stankoven, and of course Oettinger would be bigger factors in any success than Benn.

Benn was a top 5 or 6 player in the league from 2014 to 2016

2014 - He made the 1st NHL team and was top 5 to 7 player in the league (Crosby, Malkin, Getzlaf, Seguin, Giroux)

2015 - Won the ross, made the 2nd NHL team and was 5th to 7 th best in the league (Price, OV, Crosby, Tavares, Kane, Datsyuk)

2016 - Made 1st NHL team and was 3rd or 4th best player in the league being top 3 in hart (Kane, Karlsson, Crosby, Mcdavid, Holtby)

He isn't a hall of famer but he was very good in his 3-year peak, being similar to Panarin or Pastranak or Rantanen level player from 2014-2016

 

[seafoam]

Benn is not a HoF’er even with his hardware.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

He cracked 80 points twice and 40 goals once. If that’s the barrier to the HHOF then a ton of players would be getting in