Idea for a Game Day "Analysis" Thread

[Tawnos]

Great idea. However, if there is an "Analysis" thread, would that in turn make the GDT an "ohmygawdtheskyisfallingletsallcraponeachother" thread?

That's what it already is.

 

[Tawnos]

Also, it's not just the bipolar nature of the GDTs that's frustrating. Even if you eliminated that, you'd still have an entire page of posts saying things like "goal!" or even just the goal scorers name. Those of us wanting to actually talk about the game could do without the play-by-play. I think people definitely need an outlet to celebrate or vent, but we should be able to have our cake, etc.

 

[and 99 others]

Aren't "emotion/angst" and "game evaluation" one in the same?

"OMG DORSETT ANOTHER FREAKING ROUGHING PENALTY?"

versus

"I didn't like the way Dorsett was taking useless penalties last night"

 

[xsniper11x]

It seems like those who don’t agree w/ the idea are actually arguing for the “heart†of it, but don’t want to run another GDT in parallel. By “heart†of it, I highlight the comments on turning the GDT into a more constructive and restrictive place for discussion, with less dilution from rapid posting. I personally agree, but obviously many ppl post in the GDT, so I don’t feel it’s right for me to come in and say “hey, we need to change this!†Hence, why I proposed an alternative instead.

If the mods and the rest of the board were up for attempting something like this in the existing GDT, I’d personally love it, and it sounds like others would as well. A few others also hit the nail on the head. People might want to discuss/analyze the game, but they’re not confident anyone’s actually reading their posts, which easily get lost within a few minutes of new posts. So, you can’t blame them if they don’t want to bother.

 

[Tawnos]

Aren't "emotion/angst" and "game evaluation" one in the same?

"OMG DORSETT ANOTHER FREAKING ROUGHING PENALTY?"

versus

"I didn't like the way Dorsett was taking useless penalties last night"

The difference is that the second post wouldn't get lost in the shuffle and someone could respond by saying something like

"I don't know, remember what that guy (the one Dorsett roughed up) did to Stepan on his last shift? He was justified in taking that penalty.. etc"

It'd be a discussion.

 

[JohnC]

Whole lotta somethin over a whole lotta nothin

 

[LetsGoBlueshirts]

Long time reader here. I switched jobs and have had a lot less free time, which means less time around here. This is a BIG issue for me. I think it will be for some and others simply will not get it.

I don't know if the need is there for a different thread all together but a recap/highlight of the game that was easily accessible and preferably on one page would be tremendously helpful. It is very frustrating sifting through the GDT and trying to find out some good hockey information and going through page after page of banter. Again as someone said, I have NO problem with this banter but for me, I am not interested in it.

I have learned after spending years reading this site that there are quite a few people who know the game better than me. I really enjoy reading those posts and can get a lot more out of them than reading a beat writer wrap up.

I know we have the "three stars" and the Redden awards and such in the PGT but those usually don't offer much more than just simple votes.

Don't know if this is possible but it is certainly something that would keep me coming back and I think could attract some new folks to the site as well.

 

[Ail]

The difference is that the second post wouldn't get lost in the shuffle and someone could respond by saying something like

"I don't know, remember what that guy (the one Dorsett roughed up) did to Stepan on his last shift? He was justified in taking that penalty.. etc"

It'd be a discussion.

The first post could just as easily be lost in the discussion and just as easily responded to in a less emotional manner to spark a discussion.

Why does every post have to be formatted in perfect English grammar in order to warrant a response or strike discussion? I just as often see a post like, "boyle that was so dumb" lead to a structured discussion as one like, "Boyle should not have attempted that bad pass." does.

You have a legitimate gripe as far as major plays and sequences go (goals, penalties, big saves, etc...) because everyone is posting at once about it, but even if instead you had 30 people posting, "That was a nice power play goal by Derek Stepan off the feed from Rick Nash." as opposed to "sick!" "Steps!" "Goallllllll!" "Omg yes!!" it would not change the fact 30 people are posting simultaneously. Which of the 30 posts do you start the discussion from either way?

What is being suggested here is nothing more than a PGT that's open during the game. It's redundant and the current method of if you see something you want to respond to in the GDT do so and maybe it will spark something has been working fine for years.

Oh and the less people who want to talk hockey post in the GDT the more you are shooting yourselves in the foot. Of course the GDT is going to look like all spam and nonsense if people stop posting stuff of substance.

 

[Trxjw]

Aren't "emotion/angst" and "game evaluation" one in the same?

"OMG DORSETT ANOTHER FREAKING ROUGHING PENALTY?"

versus

"I didn't like the way Dorsett was taking useless penalties last night"

It's more about having to weed through a dozen "WTF BOYLE SUCKS!!!11!!one!" type of posts to find something remotely coherent or thought provoking. We've had many, many posters complain about the GDT being the wild west and that it's not even worth reading anymore. We want everyone to be able to enjoy it. Personally, I joined the board because I live in enemy territory and have no other Rangers fans to discuss the game with. I don't even feel like I can do that anymore. If I wasn't required to moderate the GDT/PGT threads, I'd probably stay off the board entirely during game time.

 

[OverTheCap]

It's a good idea in theory if it doesn't create too much work for the mods. The GDTs consists mostly of overreaction and people reacting to such overreaction. If I miss a game, I am more inclined to check out the PGT than navigate through the GDT.

That being said, whenever I post in the GDT, it's usually a mix of banter and analysis. Posting in two different threads may take some getting used to and could be a little inconvenient at first.

 

[Muh]

I'd be on board with this, but I am sure it would be extra work for the mods.

I don't post much on our board anymore, but I still read, and get a lot out of many of the threads we have going, just not the GDTs...Besides Loffen's awesome OPs

 

[JohnC]

Yet we can't have OT threads or individual player discussion threads

 

[Crazed Beaver]

It's more about having to weed through a dozen "WTF BOYLE SUCKS!!!11!!one!" type of posts to find something remotely coherent or thought provoking. We've had many, many posters complain about the GDT being the wild west and that it's not even worth reading anymore. We want everyone to be able to enjoy it. Personally, I joined the board because I live in enemy territory and have no other Rangers fans to discuss the game with. I don't even feel like I can do that anymore. If I wasn't required to moderate the GDT/PGT threads, I'd probably stay off the board entirely during game time.

First off, I appreciate all of you guys so Ty. Also, you might be on to something, a wild west gdt might be exactly what's needed. A wild west gdt with the disclaimer: If your intoxicated,upset with certain pylons, or Just generally feeling violent, then plz post in this thread with the rest of the riff raff(96.4% of the board)

 

[nyrpassion]

Aren't "emotion/angst" and "game evaluation" one in the same?

"OMG DORSETT ANOTHER FREAKING ROUGHING PENALTY?"

versus

"I didn't like the way Dorsett was taking useless penalties last night"

haha except that
"OMG DORSETT ANOTHER FREAKING ROUGHING PENALTY?"
becomes
"****ing dorsett"

and then some people, like me, who start watching recorded games later, like to go through the thread.

 

[Jabroni]

Yet we can't have OT threads or individual player discussion threads

The OT Thread was taken down because the "lounge" content was seeping into the hockey discussion and clogging up the other threads.

 

[Crease]

Yet we can't have OT threads or individual player discussion threads

The OT Thread was taken down because the "lounge" content was seeping into the hockey discussion and clogging up the other threads.

And the "player discussion" threads were discontinued because almost every player was getting his own thread and after each game each thread was bumped with a "X sucked today" or "Y was great today".

 

[JohnC]

Y'all's just OT h8rs

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Y'all's just OT h8rs

I enjoyed the OT and I was the one who took it down.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I dunno. If I missed something I just sift through the PGT and that works well for me. So what about the goal!!!!!! Type posts? I mean it is what it is. I live in Atlanta. I don't have any one to share the games with any more sans my father and since we live far enough apart, the only way I get to vent is on the GDT. I know some folks don't like it but for some one like me, it is the closest I get to sharing the excitement or let down during a game.

Whenever I post for a stream link if the norm ones aren't working, I usually get an answer and it doesn't get lost.

I'm all for a second thread as long as the GDT bipolar environment doesn't change. As I said, for some one like me who watches the games by themselves and can't really attend any, it is the only way to enjoy the experience when I'm by myself watching the game (about 80% of the time).

 

[JohnC]

I enjoyed the OT and I was the one who took it down.

...you traitor...

 

[JohnC]

But let's be reality here real quick...I cant truthfully say that if I miss a significant amount of pages during a GDT I just continue from the last post. Do people actually read the whole things?

 

[xsniper11x]

So, sounds like ppl would like to see something that isn't littered with repetitive posts, that they can easily review later on to get an idea of what others saw during the game. Since the PGT provides this after the game, should we just set up a separate analysis thread that rolls into the PGT? That way, someone could get a quick view of others thoughts from beginning to end in about 10 pages.

At the end of the day, it's tough to have any idea how it turns out without experimenting. It could also be extremely helpful early on as we have so many late night games to start the season. It also could be a big positive for the board, as it could bring many who previously left back into the fold.

 

[Ail]

The OT Thread was taken down because the "lounge" content was seeping into the hockey discussion and clogging up the other threads.

And the "player discussion" threads were discontinued because almost every player was getting his own thread and after each game each thread was bumped with a "X sucked today" or "Y was great today".

I enjoyed the OT and I was the one who took it down.

The hilarious irony here is that people who want to strictly talk about hockey, and invoke a serious discussion about the team have literally the rest of the ENTIRE sub-forum to talk seriously about players and the team. The GDT is the only spot where people can have a little OT fun, and talk about all kinds of things going on during the game, joke or just vent frustration.

Yet now people are upset and want a segregated GDT because they can't just use the entire rest of the sub-forum as it is intended. Let's just get rid of the GDT altogether and only have serious hockey discussion threads. No cheering, no emotions, no venting or elation. Just breakin' it down to the bare bones of every play by every player.

 

[Tawnos]

The hilarious irony here is that people who want to strictly talk about hockey, and invoke a serious discussion about the team have literally the rest of the ENTIRE sub-forum to talk seriously about players and the team. The GDT is the only spot where people can have a little OT fun, and talk about all kinds of things going on during the game, joke or just vent frustration.

Yet now people are upset and want a segregated GDT because they can't just use the entire rest of the sub-forum as it is intended. Let's just get rid of the GDT altogether and only have serious hockey discussion threads. No cheering, no emotions, no venting or elation. Just breakin' it down to the bare bones of every play by every player.

No one is saying we shouldn't have a thread where people can celebrate and vent or post with the flow of the game. In fact, most of us are saying that we would like that to continue to exist.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

Sounds like a way for people to avoid viewpoints they don't like. Curious timing for this when so many of you wanted Torts gone and *****ed about nonsense in the GDTs all day, and now that you're realizing how wrong you were you want to avoid being on the other end of that. And what exactly is going to constitute "analysis" as compared to frustration/emotion? Who decides that? This is going in a pathetic direction.