Post-Game Talk: I guess we can rest for 8 days too... Jets lose to Jackets 4-3

[surixon]

It's simpler to say "stick to your man" than it is to teach a guy to know when he needs to break off. It ends up being far more exhausting for the defensemen who have to move around a lot more than they would in a zone system.
It may be an explanation for why our top defensemen always seem to be more tired with less TOI than other team's top defenders

Just raises more questions on his coaching ability if he's not capable or willing to do it imo.

 

[Gm0ney]

You’re telling me Ehlers is supposed to chase Seth Jones(who is a great talent and great skater himself) all the way to the other side of the ice and all the way to the net on that play?!?!

...the Maurice/Huddy way.

 

[KB1971]

My dad is better at D than your dad.

 

[PhilJets]

One is.clearly better than the 2 despite playing with top 8c and top 3 righwinger and assist player in the league througout his career.

For me and they are all great and have different skill sets (amongst best in the league) that they bring to the table that should give the Jets team different attack each time.
For some reason not being utilities by the coach as much as possible. Maybe he is not use to having 4 elite wingers ?

They should not be pitted againts each other

 

[Adam da bomb]

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Age is not important if they all want the same money they should be paid for what they are accomplishing. Also if we limit numbers to only last 2 seasons I wonder if things look less positive. Judging them on ice time when some of that is pk when your not there to score changes things.

 

[PhilJets]

Age is not important if they all want the same money they should be paid for what they are accomplishing.

Read my post again i wasnt finish...

Anyways age is important.

And if they are getting paid for what they have accomplished then its clearly Laine

But dont want to go into debate on that...

Just pointing out there 3 are elite wingers by the team and if use properly all 3 + Wheeler.
Jets are formidable opponent.

Jets shouldnt be a bottom 10 team.

And stop comparing them as if they dont play on the same team


Better
Connor vs Boeser
Ehlers vs. Nylander either one
Laine vs. Pujjiillarve?

We are getting stressed out here and we are pitting our players now against each other
.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Read my post again i wasnt finish...

Anyways age is important.

And if they are getting paid for what they have accomplished then its clearly Laine

But dont want to go into debate on that...

Just pointing out there 3 are elite wingers by the team and if use properly all 3 + Wheeler.
Jets are formidable opponent.

Jets shouldnt be a bottom 10 team.

And stop comparing them as if they dont play on the same team


Better
Connor vs Boeser.
.

It’s Laine if u look at whole career if u limit to last 2 years it’s not Laine. As 50 is a bigger number than 45. Not just what they accomplished what are they doing present moment. How many ptsdoes Laine have in last 10 games, how many does Connor have? Who is more likely to score more pts over next 10 games?

 

[Farmboy Patty]

It’s Laine if u look at whole career if u limit to last 2 years it’s not Laine. As 50 is a bigger number than 45. Not just what they accomplished what are they doing present moment. How many ptsdoes Laine have in last 10 games, how many does Connor have? Who is more likely to score more pts over next 10 games?

What exactly is the point with this exercise in picking stats in random ranges?

 

[Adam da bomb]

What exactly is the point with this exercise in picking stats in random ranges?

That Laine had 2 great seasons and may have a career affecting injury or something while Connor has been hotter this season and does anyone care what a player did 3 years ago compared to present? So next 10 games is random but it shows how they are tracking you could also say who will put up more pelts from this point till end of season if you’d like. That obviously changes if you put Connor on 2nd line and they no longer have the same opportunities.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

The Jets suck and everyone gets mad here. We are even back to debating stuff like who is better if you count this stat but don’t count that, some skills are relevant when one player is better than the other, but other skills are not, and as a cherry on the top - whining about player salaries!

The play of our top line has not cost us many games this season, the losses are a team ”effort”. They are all earning their pay and we should be grateful to have such talent on this team.

We need at least one more defenseman who can carry one of Niku or Poolman, and a fresh start with a new coaching crew. This team is a great restoration project as it is now.

 

[DRW204]

Laine is more Boeser than he will ever be Mathews i think we can all agree on that. still a very good player, nice guy and tries hard.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

What’s with the Laine bashing btw? Don’t worry about him, haters. Chances are good that you’ll only see him for one more season after this.

 

[Jets 31]

He is, and that's why man to man is such a stupid system.



The only angle of pursuit that Ehlers has on Jones is going around Wheeler and Werenski and it automatically puts him out of position and having to chase. If Ehlers plays Jones tighter it opens up a passing lane directly to the Columbus player along the right wall/circle.
Man to man will get beaten by good players and good systems.

In zone coverage Roslovic would have switched onto Foligno coming out of the corner (recognizing that Wheeler is too far to pursue) and the drop pass likely doesn't become an option. Instead he's rigidly stuck to Werenski and ends up helping Columbus unintentionally by being in the only possible lane of pursuit towards either Foligno or Jones.

When you watch this you can pretty much blame everyone on the ice for that goal , just awful defense and a awful goal . Brossoit should have not been so deep in his net and he's already more over to the right and still gets beat short side , challenge the shooter , poke check , something . Brossoit looks like he just gives up , brutal .

 

[Jets 31]

What’s with the Laine bashing btw? Don’t worry about him, haters. Chances are good that you’ll only see him for one more season after this.

Everyone is just a little angry and frustrated , i don't think anyone hates Laine .

 

[Eyeseeing]

What’s with the Laine bashing btw? Don’t worry about him, haters. Chances are good that you’ll only see him for one more season after this.

Hope not
I think the right coach gets hired and he’d stay but yeah with POMO he’d be outta here

 

[Farmboy Patty]

Everyone is just a little angry and frustrated , i don't think anyone hates Laine .

I guess I am just as frustrated as well. Hopefullly this break will do some good and hockey will be fun again at some point.

 

[Eyeseeing]

I guess I am just as frustrated as well. Hopefullly this break will do some good and hockey will be fun again at some point.

Yeah frustrating all round.
I think we’ll have to gut it out the rest of the year as is and not kill each other.
GJG

 

[Jets 31]

We could use this dog to save our season .

 

[robertocarlos]

What’s with the Laine bashing btw? Don’t worry about him, haters. Chances are good that you’ll only see him for one more season after this.

For his sake, I hope so.
Maybe things will change next year though.

 

[Adam da bomb]

What’s with the Laine bashing btw? Don’t worry about him, haters. Chances are good that you’ll only see him for one more season after this.

What’s with all the Connor bashing? To suggest Laine is better is fine, but to suggest Connor is better is Laine bashing?? Double standard around here is funny.

 

[kanadalainen]

We could use this dog to save our season .

This is GOLD!!! I showed my daughter. Big smiles. Thanks @Jets 31

 

[LowLefty]

Everyone is just a little angry and frustrated , i don't think anyone hates Laine .

There is some anger for sure -
And this all started from a post that thought it necessary to call out Laine as being "clearly" better than the other two.
I get caught up in this bullshit like many others - it's become a pastime for many on here to call out certain players in an effort to prop up their favorite.
It's a defensive approach to discussing the team and it usually stirs up a response that start the snowball on it's downhill course.
I'm guilty of this and so are many others - it's a reaction that comes from frustration and it ends in dumb comments about out best players.

 

[Jets 31]

This is GOLD!!! I showed my daughter. Big smiles. Thanks @Jets 31

I have a German Shepherd like this , they can be very protective of their moms .

 

[Jets 31]

There is some anger for sure -
And this all started from a post that thought it necessary to call out Laine as being "clearly" better than the other two.
I get caught up in this bull**** like many others - it's become a pastime for many on here to call out certain players in an effort to prop up their favorite.
It's a defensive approach to discussing the team and it usually stirs up a response that start the snowball on it's downhill course.
I'm guilty of this and so are many others - it's a reaction that comes from frustration and it ends in dumb comments about out best players.

Agree , i've done it too , ultimately we all want the same thing i think , the Jets to win the Cup .

 

[wabagee]

What’s with all the Connor bashing? To suggest Laine is better is fine, but to suggest Connor is better is Laine bashing?? Double standard around here is funny.

Laine does all the heavy lifting for that line, so it is bashing to say Conner is better.