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I’ve heard Darren McCarty on his show talk about Yzerman’s hatred for goalies in general lol. “He has no use for them”. I think the bottom line from Yzerman is stop the damn puck.

It's hard for me to believe the GM who drafted Vasilevsky and watched him on his team for most of his career hates goalies and "has no use for them."
 
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It's hard for me to believe the GM who drafted Vasilevsky and watched him on his team for most of his career hates goalies and "has no use for them."
Steve won his cups as a player because his goalies had amazing defensemen in front of them. That's not to take away from Vernon and Osgood, because Vernon did get the Conn Smythe. That said, Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Murphy, and Fetisov make any goalie's job much easier. Hasek is really the only generational goalie this team has had since Sawchuck, at least in my lifetime.
 

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Gylander and Alexander are in Toledo based on their roster.

Campbell is on PAP and Subban is on GR PTO. So GR has a roster spot if Husso clears. I doubt he gets loaned to Europe, because it would be harder to recall him if a goalie gets injured.

Oh no...we might not get to see Husso in a Wings uniform again...how terrible...
 
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It's hard for me to believe the GM who drafted Vasilevsky and watched him on his team for most of his career hates goalies and "has no use for them."

Yeah he hates them so much he drafted Cossa and Gus, 1st and 2nd round.

I wish Stevie would hate me too.

Oh no...we might not get to see Husso in a Wings uniform again...how terrible...
Husso doesn't bother me if he's sitting on the bench. The team has to dress 2, only one has to play.
 
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In my uneducated opinion, watching a game with Husso in net is the same as with Reimer in net. Husso looks fine technically but can't get in the way of a puck by accident if you paid him to. Which, in fact, they do. Reimer is the Bizarro Hasek who flails and swims and misses most everything important somehow.

I don't know from numbers, but watching them in net, as a fan, gives me the vapors. Clone Lyon and switch them out game per game, and I won't have any "Did you SEE that?!?!?" goalie memories, but I won't have any nightmares either.

If Talbot can succeed behind the Wings' D and switch off with Lyon Eyes for combined .9+ numbers? Color me satisfied.
 

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Reimer gets a lot of hate for a goalie with a .910 save % over 500 games in his career which is quite good.
 

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Reimer gets a lot of hate for a goalie with a .910 save % over 500 games in his career which is quite good.
I watched the games, the most swimming from a goalie I have ever seen. You cannot talk me into him being a good goalie.

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Yeah, he received a lot of hate the moment he got signed.

If there's any reason for hating him, it's that the team would have made the playoffs if he hadn't ducked a couple of pucks. Remember this?



A SO win would have put the Wings in the playoffs.


dude, why'd you have to put it that way? Now it's even more painful and I hate Reimer with the fire of a thousand suns.

I mean, sorry... Let me get my statement together:

I have no hate in my heart for anyone and I have always tried to treat everyone I encounter with respect and kindness. In this specific instance I am choosing not to endorse something that is counter to my personal convictions, which is that a goalie should not duck out of the way of a puck headed towards his f***ing net.

Eat shit Reimer.
 

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Does anyone know has Husso reported to Griffins or is he just still at Detroit?
IMO, He'll report, no one is crazy enough to leave 4 million plus on the table. I haven't read anything yet saying he's there but I've seen multiple places saying he's been assigned to report down after clearing.

 

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Does anyone know has Husso reported to Griffins or is he just still at Detroit?
I don't know, but I doubt this is just a paper transaction...It is a perfect opportunity for Husso to work through some kinks with the Goalie coach in GR...from memory, a real fine and well known Finnish coach :cool:.

Husso will eventually find his way back, might not be with the wings, I truly think he needs a little more than a traditional conditioning stint, he has played very little the past 1.5 years, his trade stock should go up if he gets back on track.

I can see this working well with Cossa and not greatly impacting his development, might even help it as he should have some push competition for starts.
 

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I don't know, but I doubt this is just a paper transaction...It is a perfect opportunity for Husso to work through some kinks with the Goalie coach in GR...from memory, a real fine and well known Finnish coach :cool:.

Husso will eventually find his way back, might not be with the wings, I truly think he needs a little more than a traditional conditioning stint, he has played very little the past 1.5 years, his trade stock should go up if he gets back on track.

I can see this working well with Cossa and not greatly impacting his development, might even help it as he should have some push competition for starts.

Yeah, I think he is at least a better option for Griffs than Malcolm Subban.

And Koistinen (goalie coach) could rebound his career.
 
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Yeah, he received a lot of hate the moment he got signed.

If there's any reason for hating him, it's that the team would have made the playoffs if he hadn't ducked a couple of pucks. Remember this?



A SO win would have put the Wings in the playoffs.

Tell me you haven't played goalie without telling me you haven't played goalie. He's not anticipating Stutzle is going to Steven Kwan that puck out of the air. I honestly don't have a problem with that goal at all, that's just a hell of a f***in play by a great young player.

Edit: He didn't duck the puck because he was scared. He lowered his head because the puck popped in the air and he made the wrong guess that it would hit the ground and Stutzle would try to jam it in low instead of a baseball swing.

There are so many reasons to dislike Reimer that are much more legitimate than this.
 

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Tell me you haven't played goalie without telling me you haven't played goalie. He's not anticipating Stutzle is going to Steven Kwan that puck out of the air. I honestly don't have a problem with that goal at all, that's just a hell of a f***in play by a great young player.

Edit: He didn't duck the puck because he was scared. He lowered his head because the puck popped in the air and he made the wrong guess that it would hit the ground and Stutzle would try to jam it in low instead of a baseball swing.

There are so many reasons to dislike Reimer that are much more legitimate than this.

The only time I ever played goalie was intramural ball hockey in college. We all know ball hockey is more challenging than ice hockey, so I'll leave it at that.

I don't buy into your explanation because of what he did with the stick. If he though t it was gonna be on the ICE (ground is ball hockey doofus, lol), he wouldn't have swung his stick above his head. Yeah watch the replay again and explain the stick movement.

I haven't played hockey in decades, but I will if you're playing goalie.

Edit: FWIW, my GAA was 0.5. Not kidding.

Double edit: Rewatching the video made me hate Reimer even more
 
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I've never goalied and I wanted to believe at first the Swimmy was reflexively ducking Stutzle's stick, misjudging the distance, but here's the thing. That sequence is exactly what you'd choreograph or animate if someone said "I need a scene with a goalie ducking from a puck". Fair or not, he's a seasoned pro and is supposed to have seasoned pro abilities to judge distance, timing, and his own body placement.
 

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I've never goalied and I wanted to believe at first the Swimmy was reflexively ducking Stutzle's stick, misjudging the distance, but here's the thing. That sequence is exactly what you'd choreograph or animate if someone said "I need a scene with a goalie ducking from a puck". Fair or not, he's a seasoned pro and is supposed to have seasoned pro abilities to judge distance, timing, and his own body placement.

Puck hopped up really weird off the shot from the other Ottawa player and it vanished from sight. Reimer was trying to locate it because it hopped over his line of sight. You see him whipping his head back and forth.

Then, he sees it finally around where Stutzle’s stick is at. Stutzle pops it up over his head. Reimer was caught unawares, as he was clearly thinking that either Stutzle would miss and it would hit the ice or his redirection would go down and not up.

He flailed his stick because he realized too late that the arc went up not down.

And it mirrors like how you’d instruct a player to duck a puck because that’s how reactions work.

Reimer is in place for the first shot, it deflects up pop fly style out of his line of sight. He panics because he lost the puck, swinging his head back and forth. He sees Stutzle pounced to swing and locates the puck at that time. He made a bad judgment of how Stutzle could hit it. Stutzle put an upward track on it, Reimer anticipated a downward track or Stutzle missing the mid-air swat entirely.

he did the late swing over his head as a last ditch effort if his first supposition was wrong.

But just again, there are so many other swimming and awful goals surrendered by Reimer that focusing on this one as if it is some travesty tells me that you don’t understand what you are watching.

It became a broken play and Stutzle made a great play and Reimer made a wrong guess and didn’t react quickly enough when his guess was wrong.
 

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But just again, there are so many other swimming and awful goals surrendered by Reimer that focusing on this one as if it is some travesty tells me that you don’t understand what you are watching.
Oh agreed 100%. I didn't start calling him "Swimmy Rhymes" for no reason. Whatever Reimer has been in the past, he was not good with the Wings, as in not reliable. Not steady. The fact that his style between the posts irked me to watch had nothing to do with his skillset.

It's unfair and a bit silly to dislike a sportsguy mostly because of style, but I will go back to Lennox Lewis for an example I've used in the past - great boxer, one of the great heavyweights of the modern era, but I hated watching his fights because they were boring. Because he had a boring style.

I hated seeing Swimmy in net because he gave the team no confidence AND because he flailed like Dom but didn't "pick those cherries" like Dom while doing it.

Anyway. He's the past. Hopefully the future is brighter in net.
 

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Oh agreed 100%. I didn't start calling him "Swimmy Rhymes" for no reason. Whatever Reimer has been in the past, he was not good with the Wings, as in not reliable. Not steady. The fact that his style between the posts irked me to watch had nothing to do with his skillset.

It's unfair and a bit silly to dislike a sportsguy mostly because of style, but I will go back to Lennox Lewis for an example I've used in the past - great boxer, one of the great heavyweights of the modern era, but I hated watching his fights because they were boring. Because he had a boring style.

I hated seeing Swimmy in net because he gave the team no confidence AND because he flailed like Dom but didn't "pick those cherries" like Dom while doing it.

Anyway. He's the past. Hopefully the future is brighter in net.
Oh absolutely.

I can tell you, Hasek wasn't swimming and flopping without purpose. He would do that in a designed method. They weren't reaction saves from him. Dom would force/entice players to go to areas of the net that he wanted them. He'd give them a wide-open looking area with the idea that they'd shoot there and he'd swing to it. Not unlike a pitcher with a 100 mph fastball and an 80 mph changeup with similar arm action. Get you zeroed in on one thing and then you look foolish because they do something else.

On that play in particular, Reimer was in full react mode, as he clearly didn't know where the puck was until it hit Stutzle's stick... and Stutzle just made a really good play to put upward trajectory on it.

I won't defend the play further beyond to just say this is a really weird goal on a pinball puck and it's a really weird stance to take on "I hate this goalie" when there are at least 30 other goals he surrendered that were far more inexcusable than this.
 

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