OT: Hurricanes Lounge XLVI: Really, It's All About Beer and Bojangles

[Svechhammer]

And surely that kind of messaging wouldn’t be used to manipulate potential gun owners into “stocking up”, thus producing more profit for the ones sending the message.

Goodness no, why would they do that, that would be immoral!

By the way, did you know that Kamala was coming for your guns?!?!

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I have often thought how the end of the 20th century to the present in the US reminds me of the fall of the Roman Republic. Both appear to be republics struggling to hold off imperial tendencies of the uber rich, both fetishizing the legions/military, and both turning to blood sport (gladiators/football culture) to appease a growing dissatisfaction among the working classes. The slowly ebbing "gentile" (I know I am speak with white privilege here as nothing was very gentile for a lot of the population) America seems to be being replaced with a more edgy and violent America in every facet of society: employers moving away from taking care of their employees to only taking care of the ledgers, violence in most forms of entertainment, extreme polarization in politics, etc. I think when the depressed and sick turn to the gun it shouldn't surprise us.

I wonder when our Rubicon moment will be, if it hasn't already happened.

I mean, look no further than what happened today.

Musk Kills Government Funding Deal, Demands Shutdown Until Trump Is Sworn In

Elon Musk went on a posting spree on X to block a congressional funding bill, saying the government should shut down until Trump becomes president.

www.rollingstone.com

Why do a person who is not currently president and an unelected billionaire have the power to shutdown the government? How does that make any sense?

 

[Svechhammer]

Yep

And this is where I say its only a matter of time before the ticking time bomb goes off and its stops being the schools that get shot up by the mentally unstable but more and more corporate HQs and executives. What happened with the UHC CEO feels like a tipping point, one that we look back on 5 years from now and realize that's when things changed.

And given the panic going on around corpo executive NY, the aristocracy knows it.

And the good thing is that they're absolutely not making this guy into a celebrity with the way they are treating him after arrest

 

[CanesUltimate11]

And the good thing is that they're absolutely not making this guy into a celebrity with the way they are treating him after arrest

Clearly worried about a S.W.A.T scenario where the plebs of the city band together to break him out of custody.

 

[tarheelhockey]

City “police” looking like an actual military deployment.

Normal first world things.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Is it just me or is there a messiah-vibe in this pic?

 

[LakeLivin]

I can only assume that the sort of person who commits identity theft to buy weapons had some sort of plan to get around those elements of the process. I can’t say how exactly they were attempting to get around those checks. All I know is it was posed to me by the shop lady on the phone as “before we ship this I just want to confirm you made this order”.

I hope you’re right and that they would have failed. I hope. The point of the anecdote was simply to say, there are people out there actively subverting the system in order to get their hands on guns for any number of purposes. The more robust the verification system, the fewer armed criminals we have running around. That should be SUPER easy to agree with, especially for law-abiding gun owners who have nothing to lose by verifying that they’re not bad guys.




In other words, people get the shit scared out of them by spooky tales of “gun grabbers” kicking down their doors, so they go buy up an armory and get ready for the Gunpocalypse, then nothing happens.

Well, nothing happens until those guns get burglarized, or sold to the wrong person, or snuck out of the house by their kids. Then something really bad happens, but there’s always a reason to do exactly nothing about it.

And surely that kind of messaging wouldn’t be used to manipulate potential gun owners into “stocking up”, thus producing more profit for the ones sending the message.

I 'member back in 2008 when there were ammo shortages and significant price increases after there was a run on ammo because "Obama was going to put a 500% tax on it". Lol.

Like most things, when either extreme end of any contentious issue drives results, things aren't likely to end up very well.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

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Is it just me or is there a messiah-vibe in this pic?

Lisan al Gaib!

 

[raynman]

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Is it just me or is there a messiah-vibe in this pic?

The vibes I’m getting are more, “super rich people look at our response we will quash anything just for you, you are so safe and so loved please don’t be scared. Can I get a few bucks for my next campaign?”

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

President Elon Musk has joined the war on cancer, on the side of cancer

 

[tarheelhockey]

edit: nah

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Survey Confirms Americans Still Shockingly Ill-Informed About Gun Deaths

Gun control groups are leading us to overestimate how often school shootings occur and underestimate how safe students and teachers are.

www.dailysignal.com

I think this was the article that explained it best.

Thanks for posting. It's a completely unbiased article.

Author's bio:

Amy Swearer is a senior legal fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

President Elon Musk has joined the war on cancer, on the side of cancer

It’s impressive how quickly Musk has made a grab for power. He went from campaign donor to VP to President in a span of months. And considering he’s planning on doing something very similar overseas, maybe we should be a bit more careful about giving the guy free reign over here.

 

[Unsustainable]

Thanks for posting. It's a completely unbiased article.

Author's bio:

Amy Swearer is a senior legal fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies.

I guess I need to use the charts from Everytown next time.

COE - Violent Deaths at School and Away From School, and Active Shooter Incidents

Presents text and figures that describe statistical findings on an education-related topic.

nces.ed.gov

The numbers get very muddy any where you look, this includes suicides.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I guess I need to use the charts from Everytown next time.

No, you need just need to admit you used a completely biased author when saying an "article explains it best".

If some liberal outlet said that the NRA/Gun makers are sowing fear that the Gov't is always wanting to "take away guns" to make you buy more, you'd cry fowl and that the source was biased, and you'd be right to state that. Same applies here.

 

[Borsig]

Nobody would have been instantly “made a felon” by that bill. You’re referring to the fact that possession of certain magazines would have become illegal after a six month grace period. Meaning owners would have had half a year to do whatever sell-back program, or just throw them down a hole or whatever they needed to do to no longer be in possession.

But that was reported very differently in certain media::

Virginia Dem who joined GOP to reject gun control bill says 2nd Amendment activists made a difference | Fox News

Virginia Dem who joined GOP to reject gun control bill says 2nd Amendment activists made a difference

www.foxnews.com

“In other words, if you went out and legally purchased a weapon or legally purchased a particular part, just simply by owning that you could become a class VI felon or class I misdemeanant. And that, to me, it's not fair, it's not due process, and that was what really bothered me the most”

^ That’s a quote by a state Senator, blatantly falsifying the meaning of the bill in a way that scares the shit out of people.

To your point about getting nothing — that bill was the outcome of negotiation and compromise. The original version was a more aggressive ban of categories of weaponry, which was negotiated down to a ban on specific components which have no realistic value for hunting or home defense. Once the compromises were made, the NRA and other gun lobbyists continued to come up with new reasons to vote against it, and the whole thing failed. So from where I’m sitting, I’m not seeing a lot of willingness to actually come to a compromise to address the very obvious problems in the status quo.

I’m just seeing politicians who are bought out by lobbyists to say “no” to anything that crosses their desk, no matter how compromised and reasonable. Which in turn leads to an inability to govern the issue, which leads to radicals gaining influence and coming up with ways to subvert the process. You don’t want that, I don’t want that, nobody should want that. Enough is enough with allowing the dumbest and most corrupt people in the room to dominate the process.

No.
No.
Never.
Your rationalization is that I have 6 months to give up my legally owned, constitutionally owned private property, is..... Not worth arguing with someone who thinks that's acceptable. Your idea of compromise is that we will take item 1, 2 and 3, instead of 1 thru 5.

I'll leave you with this. Very few people on here have seen or met me. Well here you are.
This was me, dec 2019 when we launched the county by county 2A sanctuary movement in Va. I was the organizer for my county.
My rights, are NOT negotiable. Not now, not then, not EVER.

 

[Borsig]

In other words, people get the shit scared out of them by spooky tales of “gun grabbers” kicking down their doors, so they go buy up an armory and get ready for the Gunpocalypse, then nothing happens.

I don't wish they'd try. But I can assure you of one thing. After the first doors are kicked in, no one will be home. We will be at the door kickers' house. WHat we're doing there, will be "whatever you tell yourself".

Cheers, I'm done debating this with people who rationalize it the way you do

 

[Svechhammer]

Cheers, I'm done debating this with people who rationalize it the way you do

 

[Borsig]

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Is it just me or is there a messiah-vibe in this pic?

What a sick statement.
Like IDGAF about the guy that died any more than he couldnt care less if I lived or died over a dollar. But messaih? JFC man. JFC.

 

[Borsig]

City “police” looking like an actual military deployment.

Normal first world things.

Crime bill of 94 anyone?

Care to guess who authored that? He has about 2 weeks left in office. Now what's worse? Patriot act or the 94 crime bill and it's associated sister bills?

 

[Borsig]

Goodness no, why would they do that, that would be immoral!

By the way, did you know that Kamala was coming for your guns?!?!

Kamala isn't coming for anything. Except maybe donations to cover the massive debt her campaign racked up getting steamrolled.

 

[HisIceness]

Alright I'm going to try and change the subject here.

Alright check it. Tonight I got a new phone. Old one was acting up, not charging, etc. It was time. So I basically upgraded for free just paid for accessories and paid off a late bill. Anyways everything went well. Except, I got home and couldn't sync my email. For about 30 minutes I frustratingly in vain tried to get it to set up. Finally, I figured out what I was doing wrong.

I really hope in the future the new phones will have an alert or something that says "look you stupid motherf***er, tap here!!!". Would save me the aggravation. Or maybe I'll just get the salesperson to help me.

 

[Borsig]

Alright I'm going to try and change the subject here.

Alright check it. Tonight I got a new phone. Old one was acting up, not charging, etc. It was time. So I basically upgraded for free just paid for accessories and paid off a late bill. Anyways everything went well. Except, I got home and couldn't sync my email. For about 30 minutes I frustratingly in vain tried to get it to set up. Finally, I figured out what I was doing wrong.

I really hope in the future the new phones will have an alert or something that says "look you stupid motherf***er, tap here!!!". Would save me the aggravation. Or maybe I'll just get the salesperson to help me.

agree on the subject change.

I christmas shopped today. Got my dog a bag of pig ears, my wife a nice turntable for her vinyl fetish, and my mom an air fryer that will sit in the box until I inherit it, despite her asking for one. I'm looking at you, iced tea maker, and fancy can opener.

 

[Derailed75]

Kamala isn't coming for anything. Except maybe donations to cover the massive debt her campaign racked up getting steamrolled.

Who else could wrangle up 1 billion dollars in funds and still go 2 million in the hole.

Can you imagine how well her economic policies would have worked.

 

[Svechhammer]

Alright I'm going to try and change the subject here.

Alright check it. Tonight I got a new phone. Old one was acting up, not charging, etc. It was time. So I basically upgraded for free just paid for accessories and paid off a late bill. Anyways everything went well. Except, I got home and couldn't sync my email. For about 30 minutes I frustratingly in vain tried to get it to set up. Finally, I figured out what I was doing wrong.

I really hope in the future the new phones will have an alert or something that says "look you stupid motherf***er, tap here!!!". Would save me the aggravation. Or maybe I'll just get the salesperson to help me.

What phone?

Last few pixel phones I've had it's been incredibly easy to get everything set up. Just sign into my Gmail account and it restores everything just like it was on the previous device