Confirmed with Link: Hurricanes extend PNC Arena lease for 20 years, Govt allocates $300m to arena renovation, Gale Force at least $800m to land development of the complex

[chaz4hockey]

Possibly. But then again, it could just be another restaurant or bar that is open all year round. Or you could use the space for anything, maybe even expanding the Canes offices into the area and whatnot.

Also, I did just stumble across this proposal from last year. https://wwwcache.wralsportsfan.com/...g_Presentation_2023.02.14-DMID1-5xx8f80sl.pdf

Quite a lot of what is covered in that presentation actually made it through to the main renderings that were shared this year. Couple things worth noting, because I wouldn't be shocked if they still end up happening.... The 2023 presentation called for 2 View bars in the 300 level and 2 more added to the main bowl, next to the Buffalo Brothers area, opening the main concourse to the bowl. That would completely change the feel of the main bowl, and I think for the better.

Also, the 2024 proposal called for the infill of a bunch of stairwells, and I have struggled to understand how that could help with the crowding in the concourse. The 2023 presentation actually demonstrated how it would:

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They did seem to modify the plans because I no longer see the East and West Mezzanine Clubs in the new mock up.

 

[The Jerk Store]

Its worth noting that with the District concept, it does look like they are settling for the 'S/M' concept of the arena renovation that was presented earlier, rather than the L.

Finally I get another excuse to wear my leather mask!

 

[Svechhammer]

What I'm curious about... I see 3 new venues included in this concept that are not parking garages. What are they?

Now that I don't have Season Tickets, I would love a spot where I could come and tailgate with my parents who do, and then just hit up a bar or outdoor plaza adjacent to it to watch the games during the playoffs. Given what is being shown here, I have to imagine that kind of setup is already baked in, just waiting to be announced.

 

[To Be Determined]

the difficulty of leaving from a parking deck is a design feature, not a bug.

"it'll take a while for the deck to clear out, let's go to the sportsbook for a bit to let traffic die down"

(or bar, or restaurant...)

 

[CandyCanes]

What I'm curious about... I see 3 new venues included in this concept that are not parking garages. What are they?

Now that I don't have Season Tickets, I would love a spot where I could come and tailgate with my parents who do, and then just hit up a bar or outdoor plaza adjacent to it to watch the games during the playoffs. Given what is being shown here, I have to imagine that kind of setup is already baked in, just waiting to be announced.

One of them is the Live Nation Music Venue that can hold 4,000 people

 

[Svechhammer]

Also, while I did see this when I was in the arena for the concert the other night, I didn't get a good pic of it, but did just see it on Reddit.

They renovated The Eye.

This is the corner closest to the entrance from the concourse.

Is it just me, or is this a much worse use of the space than it was before? I mean it looks pretty, but The Eye is tiny, and this appears to have basically reduced the merchandise on display in that space by half

 

[Svechhammer]

Apologies, I must just be in the mood to spam today.

So I was looking over the district concept today, and I noticed something that now has me a bit curious. Specifically, I think they threw in the clouds on the concept to hide some additional features they're saving for later.

I just checked with Google Maps and we don't have any road in that location. In fact, its only a ground level open parking lot.

So it begs 2 questions. Why is the road there and not just continuing around the complex like it does now. And what is the structure that is casting that shadow across the road? There's a lot more to this that they haven't shown, isn't there.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

the press release did mention a hotel, apartments, office space, and some other things closer to edwards mill road. maybe a pedestrian bridge over a new road there leading to that area?

 

[HisIceness]

I want to ride the monorail to games

 

[A Star is Burns]

I want to ride the monorail to games

Also, while I did see this when I was in the arena for the concert the other night, I didn't get a good pic of it, but did just see it on Reddit.

They renovated The Eye.

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This is the corner closest to the entrance from the concourse.

Is it just me, or is this a much worse use of the space than it was before? I mean it looks pretty, but The Eye is tiny, and this appears to have basically reduced the merchandise on display in that space by half

Hard to say since the setup looks incomplete and I can't see what's going on with the rest. I think it's been a pretty bad setup and nothing will change that other than an expanded space. Especially now that all games are attended well, I dread going in there when I'm down for games.

 

[NotOpie]

I believe they realize that even with the attraction of staying after games for a drink, a bite to eat, and/or laying down a wager, they'll have to radically fix/address ingress and egress issues.

 

[cptjeff]

the difficulty of leaving from a parking deck is a design feature, not a bug.

"it'll take a while for the deck to clear out, let's go to the sportsbook for a bit to let traffic die down"

(or bar, or restaurant...)

Parking decks, properly designed, aren't any more slow to leave than any other lot. I mean, MLB and NFL teams manage traffic through parking decks all the time. The traffic patterns around the arena are, and have always been the chokepoints, not moving around the parking lot itself. Fix the connection to 40 and you'll have no issue emptying parking decks out.

I believe they realize that even with the attraction of staying after games for a drink, a bite to eat, and/or laying down a wager, they'll have to radically fix/address ingress and egress issues.

One would hope, but I ain't putting any money on it. In 25 years, nobody in the centennial authority has managed to realize that yet. Perfect track record of failure. There's even already a direct connection to eastbound Wade Avenue that would help tremendously for both ingress and egress, but they've blocked it off for decades. Because they are specially and uniquely incompetent at traffic management.