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HH said:
Which I don't get. World Championships is just not best on best.
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Admittedly being handicapped makes winning the fake World Cup harder than say the Olympics or real World Cup. But the US rarely comes close to to winning world championships so it'd be an impressive achievement.
 
HH said:
It's as close as you're gonna get. Olympics included.
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This doesn't make sense. Canada and the US are intentionally handicapped unlike the Olympics. If you just want the best players on the ice there is the all star game. That's true best on best.
 
Lacaar said:
International hockey sucks balls.

The problem is there's only 6 countries that give two craps about hockey.

The NA team is 10X more entertaining than watching Belaurs getting their ***** handed to them. Watching a crap european team trap for their lives is everything boring about this game.

It's been the same for 30 years. Nothing is going to change. Having Slovakia in the tournament isn't going to drive little slovakian boys to play hockey. This grow the game stuff is a load of horse crap.
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In 30 years ago there wasn't a real top 6 not to mention a meaningful or clear top 8, 30 years ago there were no NHL players from non-traditional hockey countries and Belarus wouldn't be participating instead of NA. Your post is a load a horse crap.
 
If that freaking exhibition game didn't make the tourney appeal to you just give up. Great hockey.
 
tarheelhockey said:
The overwhelmingly most important thing is to get rid of the gimmick teams. That stuff just isn't acceptable in an international tournament... If you can't take the teams seriously then you can't take the results seriously.

That, and get the best players to show up. No point in having a best-on-best tournament where the top 20 players don't show up.

Fix those things and you've got my full attention.
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Agreed. Two of the nations are even nations and I'm not talking about Team NA and Team Europe. I'm talking about team Canada and Team USA. They are not national teams if you are withholding players. I think they should just go with six teams. I don't mind team Europe as it gives countries a chance to get behind a powerhouse team, it's a new concept this time around and will take a few WHCs to get used to but I think it will grow on people as they get used to it.


There isn't enough talent for an 8 country tournament. 6 team tournament

Canada
USA
Sweden
Finland
Russia
Europe
 
This tournament is appealing to me but if they do it in the future, make it a true World Cup. Have the 8 highest ranked hockey nations qualify automatically. And then 9 to 24 have a pre qualifying tournament for the final 8 spots.
 
Hockey just isn't widespread enough for this to happen. You can't have a soccer-esque world cup for this sport; there isn't enough interest or talent worldwide.
 
Losing to the dirty US in an exhibition game, and the subsequent meltdown on social media has raised my interest significantly.
 
I have loved all the previous Canada/World Cups I have seen. I would have been super excited for this tournament if not for the two stupid gimmick teams. Get rid of that and you'll have a legitimate international tournament. Until they do that, I can not consider the present incarnation of the World Cup other than a gimmick tournament.

Gimmick or not though, the Olympic tournament still remains the ultimate tournament due to its more neutrality nature as opposed to the World Cup that is all North American rules and officials and its nature to mainly to please North American fans. Despite that, because the previous Canada/World Cups consisted of legitimate national teams, I took it very seriously despite its North American bias.

HH said:
Which I don't get. World Championships is just not best on best.
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I do care a lot about the legitimacy of a tournament. Even though the World Championships is not as important as a (true) best-on-best tournament, it still involves true national teams and a lot of people care about the team rather just who's on the team. If you don't care about the World Championships that's fine, but the tournament is a perfectly valid one. The World Cup may be exciting and fun, but the legitimacy is in question.

I will follow this edition of the World Cup because I can never not care for Team Canada, but I'm unable to consider this tournament as valid.
 
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Canuck21t said:
I have loved all the previous Canada/World Cups I have seen. I would have been super excited for this tournament if not for the two stupid gimmick teams. Get rid of that and you'll have a legitimate international tournament. Until they do that, I can not consider the present incarnation of the World Cup other than a gimmick tournament.

Gimmick or not though, the Olympic tournament still remains the ultimate tournament due to its more neutrality nature as opposed to the World Cup that is all North American rules and officials and its nature to mainly to please North American fans. Despite that, because the previous Canada/World Cups consisted of legitimate national teams, I took it very seriously despite its North American bias.
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I agree. There is still promise in this tournament, but the gimmicks render this edition meaningless. With some tweaks it would be better than the Olympic tournament.
 
Well, it is a very appealing tournament, these games are great fun to watch. It's just that I can't summon nowhere near the same amount of nervousness and excitement as in the Olympics. It's simply in a class of it's own. But this is good clean fun, just not totally serious.
 
Ditch the trophy.

Take some old-time cup out of the HHoF and ditch the modern artistic failure of a cup.
 
They should have brought back the inaugral trophy because that flower vase they have is horrendous. Beyond that I really dont understand all the *****ing about this tournament. Every game I have seen so far has been fantastic and its only pre tourney hockey. I dont know how a fan of the sport can watch any of these games and say im not watching because blah blah olympics blah. Just sit back and enjoy great hockey in SEPTEMBER or just dont watch. Stop the crying.
 
I swear the game yesterday was one of the best games I've ever seen. I'm not kidding.

“It was probably in the top three quickest games I’ve ever played. Maybe the top,” said U.S. checking centre David Backes.

It is scary that this is just an exhibition, and mainly, their first game they played together this season (!) oh my goodness.
 
llwyd said:
Well, it is a very appealing tournament, these games are great fun to watch. It's just that I can't summon nowhere near the same amount of nervousness and excitement as in the Olympics. It's simply in a class of it's own. But this is good clean fun, just not totally serious.
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Good clean fun :laugh: the Czechs-Russia game had like 3 fights, lol. Are you sure they are not serious about it? :laugh:


I just don't get how can anyone say the touranment isn't serious. The result, or the fact that YOU don't like some things about it, that could make it somehow meaningless FOR YOU, fair enough, your choice. But it's clearly very very important to players, which is what should matter the most when "objectively" saying it's serious or not. It's clearly as serious as Stanley Cup playoffs, and those were just exhibition games.
 
True Hockey Fan said:
I just don't get how can anyone say the touranment isn't serious. The result, or the fact that YOU don't like some things about it, that could make it somehow meaningless FOR YOU, fair enough, your choice. But it's clearly very very important to players, which is what should matter the most when "objectively" saying it's serious or not. It's clearly as serious as Stanley Cup playoffs, and those were just exhibition games.
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There you have it folks. The most objective and reasoned of posters has declared these exhibitions just as serious as the Stanley Cup playoffs. I am convinced now that handicapping some teams and putting gimmick all star teams against actual national teams is a good idea.

Wait a second... I forgot that I don't just blindly swallow what the NHL puts in front of me. Whoops. The tournament remains meaningless.
 
llwyd said:
Well, it is a very appealing tournament, these games are great fun to watch. It's just that I can't summon nowhere near the same amount of nervousness and excitement as in the Olympics. It's simply in a class of it's own. But this is good clean fun, just not totally serious.
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Yeah because the large amount of scrums and amount of hits in pre-tournament games is definitely good clean fun, and them not caring.
 
JackSlater said:
There you have it folks. The most objective and reasoned of posters has declared these exhibitions just as serious as the Stanley Cup playoffs. I am convinced now that handicapping some teams and putting gimmick all star teams against actual national teams is a good idea.

Wait a second... I forgot that I don't just blindly swallow what the NHL puts in front of me. Whoops. The tournament remains meaningless.
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You sure post a lot for someone that finds it meaningless.
 
I wasn't sold. Witht he amount of players dropping out with seemingkly minor injuries, I figured they were going to treat it like the All-Star game an not really give it their all. And that was all I need to get sucked in, a high compete level. Figured I'd give it a chance though.

After watching the Europe - North America game, I still wasn't convinced. It was alright, but just didn't pull me in.

Then I watched USA v Canada.... Holy ****

I still the the gimmick teams are silly, but now I'm hoping this goes well and they organize a proper one for a few years from now. Would like to see it grow into an actual world cup and not just an NHL tournement
 
njdevsfn95 said:
Ditch the trophy.

Take some old-time cup out of the HHoF and ditch the modern artistic failure of a cup.
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If anyone doubts the idiocy of the NHL....the one thing they decide to keep from the 2004 World Cup is the god-awful flower vase trophy that everyone hated even back then.
 
MardyBum said:
And everyone finds more entertaining.

I watched every WHC game this past year I could.

The intensity, skill, speed, emotion on display in the exhibition games so far>>>> the WHC.
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Except this is obviously a false statement as there its literally impossible for 100% of people to find this tournament more entertaining.
 
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