Callagraves
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Shh. Don't point out the habit of long term memory loss on the boards.
Cally is a 3rd liner, Dubi was better.
Talbot is better than Hank.
Prust was just a 4th liner.
How much would you give Callahan on his next contract?
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Shh. Don't point out the habit of long term memory loss on the boards.
Cally is a 3rd liner, Dubi was better.
Talbot is better than Hank.
Prust was just a 4th liner.
haveandare
Registered User
AV doesn't even know what his system is. He knew the team he agreed to work for, yet he someone came in having no idea what they were. He "doesn't have the horses" as if the team was a bunch of question marks before he got here. As if there isn't seasons and seasons and seasons of tape of every guy. As if it takes some sort of genius a whole lifetime to figure out the capabilities of bunch of guys that play on television almost every other night. AV seems to have very little idea what he's doing with this specific group of guys. He was asked what kind of team this was and he didn't know. That's unacceptable. I think he came in drastically unprepared, and we're seeing the consequences of that now.
Callahan is playing poorly now. Hank is playing poorly now too. Is he a back up "actually" because he's been playing like one for a bunch of games? No. And Callahan isn't a third liner just because he's been playing like one for a spell either. The guy has been a defensive force most of his NHL career, and he's been adding offense gradually for the past few years. The GM of the US olympic team thinks he's good enough to be on the team and in a leadership role no less. What does he know? He doesn't even post on HFNYR.
Callahan isn't picking up a woefully run team and forcing them to win. That is a problem for sure. But it doesn't mean he's worthless and it doesn't mean he's a third liner. This team's problems go deep. There are maybe a handful of players in the world that could right this ship on their own right now. There are real big problems at play here, and in my opinion, Callahan isn't even near the top of the list.
haveandare
Registered User
Shh. Don't point out the habit of long term memory loss on the boards.
Cally is a 3rd liner, Dubi was better.
Talbot is better than Hank.
Prust was just a 4th liner.
All hail Prince Chad!
Call me crazy, but I'd go big with Callahan and Girardi, as long as there isn't a NMC. I have no problem re-signing guys then moving them down the road.
Even if their play does regress a tad, they're guys who will be in high demand for a long time. Maybe I'm too concerned with asset management, and letting go.
You're crazy. High cap hits are not easy to move until the last year, and good asset management requires leaving some space to sign your future strong players.
Killem Dafoe
Hold my baby, man.
Unfortunately, if those are our only options, I'd favor a trade or let him walk. **** that sucks to say, I love the guy despite how he's been playing.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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Torn labrum. Broken thumb. Sprained MCL. He's falling apart and his play is suffering. He needs to be traded at the deadline so we can recoup his value.
For the price i would move him, hes given it a lot here but its time to move on. That is what makes a good team knowing when to part ways.
Kreider Typical
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trade at the deadline no doubt. love the guy, but we need what he can bring back, not more years of him at a high hit. if he still had the room, maybe it's worth considering keeping, but at the place this team is likely missing playoffs it's not even a thought.
Zats Muccarello
Grinder
He needs to be moved. His grit, leadership, defensive ability and intangibles make him extremely valuable to a majority of teams. Just have to get the right return, preferably young top 6 players or picks.
Lion Hound
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Not me. I understand what he brings to the table. He's NOT a 3rd liner. He's a leader, and a solid top 6 winger. This is about positioning. This is a business. Most of us fans here know to fear this next contract for him. He's been paid handsomely in the past but this up coming contract is his big one. Callahan knows it. His agents know it. Glen up at the helm is probably not the best thing for this club going into these negotiations. Glen pays his boys. It's a cap crippler and due to the exhorbitant monies that are going to go to Nash and Lundqvist already it puts the club in a really bad position moving forward.
So this is not " Trade Callahan because he's not having a great season" It's trade him because your organization will be better off if it repositions itself with regeneration by draft picks and a good young prospect or two.
3 years, $5 million per. Max.
But I really don't want him back. He's turning into damaged goods.
But I really don't want him back. He's turning into damaged goods.
Emptyvoid
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To add to that, we gotta trade him before his value plummets like Staal's due to injuries.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
It sounds so sacrilegious to say but I'd try and trade him if possible. Unless he wants to take a big pay cut to stay on the team.
silverfish
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Shh. Don't point out the habit of long term memory loss on the boards.
Cally is a 3rd liner, Dubi was better.
Talbot is better than Hank.
Prust was just a 4th liner.
Two of those things are true. Well, 1 is true, 1 is partly true, and 1 couldn't be more false. I'll let you guys figure out which is which.
If Cally wants more than $5 mil a year, I say peace out. I don't think there's a chance in hell that management lets him walk though.
Would love to send him shipping out west at the deadline - then let him sign in Buffalo in the off-season. All done.
Run three A's for the rest of the season, and make Mac Truck the captain in 14-15.
Paulie Walnutz
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Yes let's overpay him and Girardi and watch them decline even more and have no cap space to make moves. Yup, bring everyone back and have the same mediocre team
silverfish
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You guys need to get the word "rebuild" out of your vocabulary when it comes to the Rangers. Setting yourself up for disappointment. This is a team that is going to try and compete for the next 8 years whether you like it or not.
Retool, yeah. Rebuild? Not for a decade.
Carlos Ranger
Zucc-a-Rella
Almost threw up just reading this poll. wouldn't give him half of that right now. trade him asap.
Ex Officer Friendly
Got Nothin To Say
haveandare
Registered User
My point is that if this were a regular, or improved, patch of performance from him, I highly doubt the sentiment would be the same. A slump is occurring with a contract on the horizon so everyone is piling on the guy. Most players on this team have been this guy at some point: In a slump for whatever reason, easy to be thought of as traded for huge pieces - so everyone gets in line to crap on them and talk them down.
I'm not saying keep him no matter what, I just think the fact that so many people think the guy is completely expendable now is absurd. If he wants something reasonable, you sign him.
haveandare
Registered User
I don't see why he would possibly want to sign in Buffalo. He's going to be 28 and he has no cup. If I were him, I'd stay in NY or I'd try to get a deal with a team that plays a style I'd fit in nicely and is set up for success in the short term - LA/STL/BOSt probably.
silverfish
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To be:
- Close to home
- A veteran presence on a team that should be on the up soon
- Not only a veteran presence, but a veteran leader and probably captain
- They'll pay him good money
- He'll get top minutes in all situations
- Callahan would thrive on a Ted Nolan team
- I don't think Buffalo is as far away as everyone else does, despite their record this season
- You better believe LaLaLaFontaine and Terry Pegula are going to have a SERIOUS sales pitch for him
I'm not so sure about trading him. The Islanders are perpetually trading players for picks/prospects and they haven't gone anywhere in years.
I'm OK with trading him if the return is incredible, but Callahan, when healthy and playing where he should, is a superb penalty killer, probably the only guy on the team willing to get in the goalie's face on the power play, and good for 20-25 goals a year if used properly.
That probably worth 4 yrs/20 mil. I'd have a problem with too many years, due to his wear and tear.
I'm OK with trading him if the return is incredible, but Callahan, when healthy and playing where he should, is a superb penalty killer, probably the only guy on the team willing to get in the goalie's face on the power play, and good for 20-25 goals a year if used properly.
That probably worth 4 yrs/20 mil. I'd have a problem with too many years, due to his wear and tear.
