How has Holloway looked so far?

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I wish a different nickname other than Hollywood would catch on for him.

What about Elwood?

We'd then have a Jake and an Elwood:

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Yeah.....Hollywood is so cringe. That place is absolutely satanic.
It is quite literally a cult. I teared up when Gene Wilder passed and probably will again when the likes of Mel Brooks, Eastwood, Morgan Freeman and Keanu Reeves go. Other than that, it's a cesspool of frauds and elitist mouthpieces. But I'm gonna go ahead and sidestep that rabbit hole.
 
It is quite literally a cult. I teared up when Gene Wilder passed and probably will again when the likes of Mel Brooks, Eastwood, Morgan Freeman and Keanu Reeves go. Other than that, it's a cesspool of frauds and elitist mouthpieces. But I'm gonna go ahead and sidestep that rabbit hole.
It is more than a cult. This shit goes deep, bro.
 
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Yeah I know. I don't want to be modded in what could be viewed as any sort of "political speech" on the board. But yeah. I'm waiting on (more) names..
I'll send you a DM in the next couple days. I've been meaning to do that with another member as we've discussed this issue already in private.
 
I don't think he's reached his ceiling of being a 70 point, power forward. Best to keep him on the left wing, unless you have many injuries at centre.
 
He kind of reminds me of JT Miller when he came into the league with the Rangers. I don't think anyone had Miller as an eventual PPG guy and I don't see that for Holloway. I see his top end being around a 60-65pt guy as I don't think he has the vision/creativity to produce more.

Love him though. I still can't believe the Oilers didn't match him.
 
It is more than a cult. This shit goes deep, bro.
wow that whole random conversation in a hockey forum was weird af. "hollywood" is not that deep...

Are you happy with 28 goal, 68 point Kyrou because that's the pace he's on right now. Not saying it's bad but it's not 35-40 goals and PPG. If he realizes the potential you're talking about then it's a different story.

There's only 1 $13 million player right now and even $11 million players like Marner, Pasta, Nylander and Panarin put up 90-100 or more points every year. Kyrou isn't close to that level, although at $8.1 million I wouldn't expect him to be. In his price range of +/- $8 million there are quite a few young players players out performing him (Hughes, Tkachuks, Stutzle, Thomas, Bratt, Suzuki) and a smaller group of guys that are performing worse (Jarvis, Hintz and Robertson are off to slow starts this year). There are plenty of overpaid veterans at that price tag that aren't living up to their deals, however.

I could see an argument that Kyrou is slightly overpaid based on current production more than he's underpaid, but the salary is probably close to fair. I doubt he'll ever be seen as a bargain like Thomas already is, though. When he's on, he's great. I'd just like to see that top form a little more often.
also really funny that everyone cries about kyrou not reaching 40g when tarasenko only got there once in his career...
 
wow that whole random conversation in a hockey forum was weird af. "hollywood" is not that deep...


also really funny that everyone cries about kyrou not reaching 40g when tarasenko only got there once in his career...

I haven't heard anyone "cry" about Kyrou not reaching 40 but in case you haven't noticed scoring is way up in the last 5-10 years.

When Tarasenko scored 40 only 4 players scored 40 or more and the league leader had 50 goals. Last season 17 guys had 40 or more and the league leader had 69. 50 goals today is more comparable to 40 goals a decade ago. Context matters.

Merry Christmas and go easy on the egg nog
 
Giving up a 3rd rounder for a 23 yr old PF who’s going to score 30g who plays hard every night? Yeah, I’d say Army did ok.
His work ethic is why I like him. He is not a freeloading floater, our top paid players could learn from him and his relentless motor.
 
I'm more than happy with him being a speedy, 2-way second line LW that can put up 55-60 points per season consistently over his career.
 
He knows how to play a complete 200' game, and he does it at high speed. That's how hockey is won. You can also see in body language that he is a natural teammate. He is there to enjoy positive feelings on the ice with his group, which comes from winning, which comes from details and commitment, which comes from his commitment.

Before this season the Blues were several impact players away from becoming a contender, but he is one of them. They needed at least 3 long term impact forwards and at least 2 long term impact defensemen, with a few impact short term depth players too (like Fowler). Holloway is one of the forwards and we are day by day drawing closer to finding out if Dvorsky is also one of the forwards. Broberg is one of the defensemen.

They have enough other prospects who could become something and are trending well in a bunch of different leagues that while playoffs may be 40/60 right now for this year, 25-26 is a playoff season.
 
I fully understand the concern for the future for the Blues. I’m in the camp that thinks the Blues are still two drafts away from becoming a team on the rise similar to New Jersey. I’m still in a “asset acquisition” mindset for this team.

But having Holloway develop into a top-6 winger that still seems to be improving is helping my optimism with this team so much more. I genuinely love what prospects the Blues have and what roster pieces the Blues have to work with. They have the right coach (in my mind) to take this team far and I think they have the pieces to get there starting 2027. Holloway and Broberg have drastically improved the trajectory of this team simply by providing another avenue to take so we as fans aren’t relying on the draft and prospects the Blues have to pan out. We have excess in good young talent and seem to have hit on later selections to shore up a bottom-6 that won’t need to rely on spending cap to create, meaning more money available for the top-4 and top-6. I’m so optimistic with this team that I hope the Blues trade the first round pick if out of the top-10 so as to pry other young developing talent from other franchises.

I could post this anywhere but thought it best here simply because Holloway is a large reason for my love of what this team can be. He’s fast, has solid tools, and has a mindset that makes his trajectory seem immense compared to where I saw him in his draft year. That seems to be a common theme as I see Bolduc, Broberg, and Kyrou with that same headspace of continual improvement. The Blues are fun to watch and Holloway has been large reason for it. I hope to see him in a Blue note for a long time.
 
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