How does the D Corps get fixed?

[Nanabijou]

If you've been following Nashville closely the last couple of years (I haven't), how is Seth Jones progressing? Is he a sure-enough lock to be a #1 D in the near future?

With Nashville floundering offensively right now, I could see the urge to move him for offensive help coming to a boil. I know the return would hurt, but for now, I'm curious to opinions on his development the last couple of years.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

If you've been following Nashville closely the last couple of years (I haven't), how is Seth Jones progressing? Is he a sure-enough lock to be a #1 D in the near future?

With Nashville floundering offensively right now, I could see the urge to move him for offensive help coming to a boil. I know the return would hurt, but for now, I'm curious to opinions on his development the last couple of years.

Watched him a lot in the playoffs last year. He is good. I think Josi might be better though. They basically have three #1 defensemen

Life is just not fair

 

[Doug19]

which is why we are the perfect trading partners!

 

[major major]

Watched him a lot in the playoffs last year. He is good. I think Josi might be better though. They basically have three #1 defensemen

Life is just not fair

Ive seen some bad games from Jones. He ain't top pair quality yet.

Josi is easily better. Josi is top ten D in the league in my opinion.

I have no idea if Jones is on track for top pair.

 

[CBJSlash]

Kind of makes me wonder if Tyuts has some sort of hairline orbital fracture too because the dude is a gamer.

 

[Nanabijou]

Watched him a lot in the playoffs last year. He is good. I think Josi might be better though. They basically have three #1 defensemen

Life is just not fair

I'm figuring that Josi would be off the table, which is why I was asking about Jones. I'm very reluctant to part with Joey, but I could see a framework for a trade with Nashville that could make sense for both teams. I was thinking this when I posted earlier, before the Joey "is softly in play" report.

 

[CBJx614]

I've been pleased with JJ and Connauton in the Torts era. They're not our top pair saviors but they're just fine for lesser roles. Tyutin has picked up his game as well, but at this point he's not going to be a reliable top four guy anymore. Bodnarchuk has played one NHL game in five years, so I don't know why people would judge him yet one way or the other.

This has us back to where we were for the last couple years. Lots and lots of middle pair and bottom pair possibilities, and a vacancy at the top. I see it something like this at the moment:

#1
Vacant

#2
Murray

#3
Savard

#4
Johnson, Goloubef, Connauton,

#5
Tyutin

#6


#7
Prout


This might look like an average D core, but when you weight it for ice time it's definitely not good. Consider that a #1D in the Suter/Subban/Doughty mold can play close to 30 minutes a night, and assuredly the most important minutes too.

I'd say that's pretty fair. The game that Golo and Tyutin left JJ and Savard ate all the minutes and Murray was sheltered with only 23

 

[57special]

Ive seen some bad games from Jones. He ain't top pair quality yet.

Josi is easily better. Josi is top ten D in the league in my opinion.

I have no idea if Jones is on track for top pair.

This.

Jones looks really good at times, not so much at others.

 

[blahblah]

I'm beginning to think that resolution to our D is the Tsar Bomba.

 

[KapG]

How's bodnarchuk look in his first 2 games?

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

How's bodnarchuk look in his first 2 games?

I honestly forgot he was playing if that tells you anything.

Not good, not bad. Goldilocks zone

 

[burnstick]

I honestly forgot he was playing if that tells you anything.

Not good, not bad. Goldilocks zone

from what i have seen he has been steady
nothing fancy just doing his job
not standing out just playing a solid simple game.

 

[CBJx614]

Eklund(I know I know)says CBJ as well as a few others are inquiring on Luke Schenn. Depending on the price I wouldn't mind him just to add a little physicality and depth back there. Pair him with Johnson, Savard or Connauton and let them be more aggressive(offensively)

 

[EspenK]

Eklund(I know I know)says CBJ as well as a few others are inquiring on Luke Schenn. Depending on the price I wouldn't mind him just to add a little physicality and depth back there. Pair him with Johnson, Savard or Connauton and let them be more aggressive(offensively)

I don't think he is what we need.

 

[major major]

Luke Schenn?
Do you really want to make our D even slower?

 

[CBJx614]

I just don't see us going all in for #1D. Especially if our recent success continues we won't make that big of a move.

 

[EspenK]

I just don't see us going all in for #1D. Especially if our recent success continues we won't make that big of a move.

We aren't getting a #1 D via trade during the season. No team will give up their #1 unless there is a pending cap/ufa demands issue looming and even then it probably doesn't happen until the deadline, if at all. But Luke Schenn is not the answer.

 

[CBJx614]

Never said it was the answer, but if you can get him cheap enough and knock Prout into the AHL for good, Falk back to a healthy scratch it makes the team stronger. Like him or not he's better than a few of the D we have out there tonight.

If you can replace guys who would be at best 6s or scratches on most teams and even replace him with a #4 or 5 type guy your defense is better. And we have 3 guys tonight who would be, at the very best would be a #5 on most teams(Bodnarchuk, Falk, Connauton). Connauton being the only exception to whom Schenn MIGHT not overtake on the depth chart.


Once again, not saying he's the answer but if you can get him for the right price, why not.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Never said it was the answer, but if you can get him cheap enough and knock Prout into the AHL for good, Falk back to a healthy scratch it makes the team stronger. Like him or not he's better than a few of the D we have out there tonight.

If you can replace guys who would be at best 6s or scratches on most teams and even replace him with a #4 or 5 type guy your defense is better. And we have 3 guys tonight who would be, at the very best would be a #5 on most teams(Bodnarchuk, Falk, Connauton). Connauton being the only exception to whom Schenn MIGHT not overtake on the depth chart.


Once again, not saying he's the answer but if you can get him for the right price, why not.

He's a pending UFA and I can't imagine there being a ton of interest around the league in him. The going rate for a second-pairing defenseman is around $4 mil/year, possibly higher, and the idea of laying out any assets for him is crazy.

The only, and I mean only, way that I would consider picking him up is if it's being used as a chance to dump a contract (or two) that goes beyond this year. I'd rather see what you can get out of the younger guys or the AHL guys before Schenn though. Hell, I'd rather sign Madaisky to a new contract, fly him back over, and see what he could do before laying out an actual positive asset for Schenn.

 

[CBJx614]

Problem is we don't have ANY young guys to give a shot to besides POSSIBLY Werenski or they would have been called up by now. I was one of the ones hoping Paliotta might possibly be a candidate, but he's 3rd pairing in LE. Heatherington is still another full season or two away and I doubt Kukan is anything more than a AHLer.

Jarmo and JD are gonna have to be creative if they want to effectively reshape the back half of the defense.

 

[Mayor Bee]

Problem is we don't have ANY young guys to give a shot to besides POSSIBLY Werenski or they would have been called up by now. I was one of the ones hoping Paliotta might possibly be a candidate, but he's 3rd pairing in LE. Heatherington is still another full season or two away and I doubt Kukan is anything more than a AHLer.

Jarmo and JD are gonna have to be creative if they want to effectively reshape the back half of the defense.

If you're at the point where there are no AHL guys to give a look to and are considering picking up Luke Schenn, you either need to question the state of pro scouting or seriously question who it is that's providing directions to the pro scouts.

 

[CBJx614]

If you're at the point where there are no AHL guys to give a look to and are considering picking up Luke Schenn, you either need to question the state of pro scouting or seriously question who it is that's providing directions to the pro scouts.

I'm not trying to sound like a sarcastic little **** or anything but what would you do? Everyone wants to go get a potential #1D, but I think the only way those talks are realistic if someone like Johansen or top notch young player and a 1st are going the other way. And we can't trade futures for a #1 because we don't have the cap space.

 

[Riverfront]

dennis siedenberg from the bruins could be had

 

[major major]

Yeesh. We don't want Seidenberg or Schenn. I doubt those guys have much future in the game.

So far, at least, Bodnarchuk-Falk has made a fine third pairing, and Connauton is playing great. We have the same problem we've always had with our D: no one far above that middling level.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

I think Bryan Murphy is above middling level. He doesn't show up that often though