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Speculation: How does Dallas make cap space in the offseason?

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Marchment will be traded to a team with cap like Pittsburgh or Anaheim. He's a good player they will likely get a decent pick for him
 
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BigTomBomber said:
He’s scheduled to be back the last couple games of the season
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IDK about Seguin they can do it but they'd have to waive/send a player down to make it fit the cap. Also would mean Heiskanen can't come back before the playoffs. They only have the caproom to activate one of the two before the playoffs.
 
serp said:
IDK about Seguin they can do it but they'd have to waive/send a player down to make it fit the cap. Also would mean Heiskanen can't come back before the playoffs. They only have the caproom to activate one of the two before the playoffs.
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Listening to Nill, id say about 90% chance Seguin plays final couple reg season games. Id also say there’s a 1% chance Miro is back before game 1 or 2 of playoffs, especially weighing the cap complications

If Seguin suffers a setback, Miro might make game 81/82
 
They'll be fine. Granlund, Dadonov, Ceci, Lundkvist can all walk with no real consequence.

Dumba can be jettisoned to Chicago or Anaheim or whoever else is the dumping ground this summer.

Benn will take peanuts compared to his market value, as others have said probably a bonus 35+ type contract.

Duchene I could also see staying for less, he's still got another 4 years of $1.5m/yr coming in from Nashville.. I think he's seen what can happen when you chase money, better to take <$5m to stay in a good situation.

Marchment could easily fetch a 2nd rd pick+, he's by no means overpaid but more of a luxury Dallas can't really afford.

Depending on how the playoffs go, I'd be looking at trading Robertson unless he really impresses. Try to turn him into someone like Andersson or Weegar
 
M88K said:
Ideally, they keep more than 500k, to absorb Benn's bonus money, also have to assume some fluctuation on the contracts. IE Bourque might get 2.25, Benn 1.5-2, Maybe Duchene gets 4 or 4.5 this time. a little more flexibility by moving on from Marchment.

If it works out, yeah, they could keep marchment for the year, but it's probably better to have a little more space to work with, it's not like he's a big loss anyway
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If this is what Dallas is offering, the offersheets will come.
 
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BigDaddyLurch said:
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Calgary 1st 2025


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C Marvik Bourque
RD Matt Dumba


...sound like a reasonable starting ground??...:dunno:
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No, getting rid of Bourque just to be free of Dumba isn't a worthwhile trade

wintersej said:
If this is what Dallas is offering, the offersheets will come.
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that's what everyone says every year.
And it's still rare.
Bourque would be delusional to think he's getting a 3+m offer-sheet. Anything less than that is a simple match and be done with it.
 
JKG33 said:
They'll be fine. Granlund, Dadonov, Ceci, Lundkvist can all walk with no real consequence.

Dumba can be jettisoned to Chicago or Anaheim or whoever else is the dumping ground this summer.

Benn will take peanuts compared to his market value, as others have said probably a bonus 35+ type contract.

Duchene I could also see staying for less, he's still got another 4 years of $1.5m/yr coming in from Nashville.. I think he's seen what can happen when you chase money, better to take <$5m to stay in a good situation.

Marchment could easily fetch a 2nd rd pick+, he's by no means overpaid but more of a luxury Dallas can't really afford.

Depending on how the playoffs go, I'd be looking at trading Robertson unless he really impresses. Try to turn him into someone like Andersson or Weegar
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I could definitely see Duchene taking a discount but a guy who is about to put up 80 something points in a season likely isn't taking less than 5 million. I'd be floored.
 
M88K said:
No, getting rid of Bourque just to be free of Dumba isn't a worthwhile trade


that's what everyone says every year.
And it's still rare.
Bourque would be delusional to think he's getting a 3+m offer-sheet. Anything less than that is a simple match and be done with it.
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I mean Edmonton just lost 2 players just last year. I'd do 1 year at the max before it became a first as a Chicago fan and see if he would sign it. We need NHL ready players.
 
TLEH said:
I mean Edmonton just lost 2 players just last year. I'd do 1 year at the max before it became a first as a Chicago fan and see if he would sign it. We need NHL ready players.
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sure, it could happen. but it's extremely rare. I don't think Chicago is going to gamble poaching RFA's with their list of upcoming RFA's. And St. louis was trying to trade for both, and did the offer-sheet to force the oilers hand, then still gave them extra assets as an apology.

They(Chi) aren't going to want to piss off some team and have Bedard get targeted the next year
 
Pittsburgh will have plenty of space and would love to make a deal.

Some suggestions as bases, give or take:

Marchment for 2026 4th
Dumba + 2027 2nd for Poulin
Marchment+Dumba+2027 2nd for Heinen+2027 4th
Dumba/Marchment+Bourque for Ponomarov or Lizotte

Or, lol: Dumba+Marchment+Bourque+2027 2nd for Ponomarov+Karlsson @ 50%.
 
M88K said:
as payback for Aho, it's not the same thing
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...Dallas in gonna be in a crunch with a lot of young teams that have a shyteton of Cap...he's a prime candidate for an offersheet that'll only cost a team their 2nd...getting a 1st for Bourque now and ridding yourselves of Dumba at the same time is a proposition that has merit for Dallas...
 
M88K said:
sure, it could happen. but it's extremely rare. I don't think Chicago is going to gamble poaching RFA's with their list of upcoming RFA's. And St. louis was trying to trade for both, and did the offer-sheet to force the oilers hand, then still gave them extra assets as an apology.

They aren't going to want to piss off some team and have Bedard get targeted the next year
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I think you are extremely underestimating how many teams are going to have cap space they don't know what to do with. Its going to be a very weird market this year.

M88K said:
sure, it could happen. but it's extremely rare. I don't think Chicago is going to gamble poaching RFA's with their list of upcoming RFA's. And St. louis was trying to trade for both, and did the offer-sheet to force the oilers hand, then still gave them extra assets as an apology.

They(Chi) aren't going to want to piss off some team and have Bedard get targeted the next year
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Again, you are failing to see the market as it is right now. Chicago could match anything for Bedard, that's a made up concern. Every team but Dallas and the Avs are going to be flush with cap space next year.

edit: but to be clear, Dallas won't let it get to that, but they will likely have to move out or LTIR some vets to get there, a 2m contract won't cut it unless they can show that presenting an offer sheet won't work.
 
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M88K said:
sure, it could happen. but it's extremely rare. I don't think Chicago is going to gamble poaching RFA's with their list of upcoming RFA's. And St. louis was trying to trade for both, and did the offer-sheet to force the oilers hand, then still gave them extra assets as an apology.

They(Chi) aren't going to want to piss off some team and have Bedard get targeted the next year
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It’s not a real problem when you’ve got tons of cap space. Why wouldn’t they gamble? They need pieces.
 
TLEH said:
It’s not a real problem when you’ve got tons of cap space. Why wouldn’t they gamble? They need pieces.
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It's pretty easy, if Chicago starts sniping RFA's, not just from Dallas, one, they've now inflated every RFA contract for their own team.
If Bourque is getting a 4.3m AAV contract from Chicago, Kurashev is going to be too, as will Riechel and Nazar (at the minimum) as they are producing around the same as Bourque, they'll have a comparable as well.
Then you have the risk of an offer-sheet that walks Bedard right to UFA.
Sure they would match it, but they are not buying UFA years then and are losing control of the player at the time their window might be opening.
It's a risk most teams don't take, not because they can't snag the player, but because repercussions down the line aren't worth it.
Could they, sure, should they? sure probably, if only because it might force Dallas to move on from Marchment. Will they though? I doubt it.
 
SEALBound said:
Pittsburgh will have plenty of space and would love to make a deal.

Some suggestions as bases, give or take:

Marchment for 2026 4th
Dumba + 2027 2nd for Poulin
Marchment+Dumba+2027 2nd for Heinen+2027 4th
Dumba/Marchment+Bourque for Ponomarov or Lizotte

Or, lol: Dumba+Marchment+Bourque+2027 2nd for Ponomarov+Karlsson @ 50%.
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How is Marchment only worth a 4th? Dallas would get better offers from other teams
 
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