How Big is our "Window"?

[Stonehands1990]

He musnt really be struggling 5 v 5 if he only has 4-5 more powerplay points than guys like cirelli, Stephenson.
He has similar ppg production to krejci but less ppp. A little less ppg than Malkin, similar ppp. Kadri is producing the exact same but is -4.
He’s vastly out producing Wennberg, trochek has better ppg but also has more ppp.

Tavares has focused much more on a 200ft game, than years past. I’ll take a reduction in 5 v 5 points if it also reduces our 5 v 5 GA.

His 5 v 5 GA is WAY DOWN compared to last season and playoffs. He’s definitely prioritizing D. My only issue with Tavares this year is his off games he’s mishandling the puck, passing to the opposing team and looks like Jason Allison skating wise

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Who knows and who cares it's about THIS year nobody knows what the future holds you have NO idea how long the window will be open, all you know is it's open NOW so take advantage NOW

 

[SlpLessInMuskoka18]

Not too surprising. Matthews-Marner get all the tough minutes

LOL How dare the 11m C give us an advantage when our youth soak up heavy minutes... why do you think this will work for the entirety of the contract.

JT will always run faster wingers then him. He either stays the same or gets put onto Robidas Island if his legs fall off like you think they will.

 

[BrainyBomber]

Don't we need to beat 4, like every other year (save last year)?

Yes and the Cup still runs through TB doesn't matter if we are in the same division or not we'll still have to get by them.

Mess is just looking for any phony excuse to not have to attribute any credit to our current GM. But he's always happy to lay any untoward blame on him.

 

[Thornbury]

Not too surprising. Matthews-Marner get all the tough minutes

Playing against checking lines?

 

[Mess]

Don't we need to beat 4, like every other year (save last year)?

First, we have to beat out 3 of the 6 CDN teams to make the playoffs.
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Then beat out 2 of the remaining 3 CDN teams to advance to final 4.
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Then beat out only 2 of the 24 USA based teams never facing 22 a single time this year.

Therefore only 6 X Canadian & 2 X American based teams [or 8 teams total] stand in Leafs way to hoist the Cup this year in a 31 team league.

There is never likely to be another better opportunity for Leafs window to break a +50 year Cup drought.

** Next year after Seattle joins the league, there will be 31 teams instead of just 8, when Leafs are looking out their competitive window towards the Cup.

Take a quick look at the standings and see all those pesky USA based team > = to are Leafs currently most of which we will never need to face.. TB (54 points), Florida (54 points), Colorado (54), Washington (52), NYI (52), Carolina (51), Pittsburgh (50), Vegas (50 in 36 games). Most of which are Eastern Conference teams that usually stand in our way.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

First, we have to beat out 3 of the 6 CDN teams to make the playoffs.
&
Then beat out 2 of the remaining 3 CDN teams to advance to final 4.
&
Then beat out only 2 of the 24 USA based teams never facing 22 a single time this year.

Therefore only 6 X Canadian & 2 X American based teams [or 8 teams total] stand in Leafs way to hoist the Cup this year in a 31 team league.

There is never likely to be another better opportunity for Leafs window to break a +50 year Cup drought.

** Next year after Seattle joins the league, there will be 31 teams instead of just 8, when Leafs are looking out their competitive window towards the Cup.

So like every other year, we need to beat 4 teams.

 

[tardigrade81]

Who knows and who cares it's about THIS year nobody knows what the future holds you have NO idea how long the window will be open, all you know is it's open NOW so take advantage NOW

Agreed. I like your passion !

 

[Mess]

The last time Leafs Cup competitive window was open and Leafs were successful was 1967 when the NHL was still the original 6 teams, before expansion the following year and doubling to 12 teams in 1967-68.

This year for all intents in purposes Leafs competitive window is going back in time, as if essentially the original 6 has expanded by just +3 teams overall that time to now be playing in 9 team NHL again.

Leafs have never won a Cup in a league greater than a 6 team NHL league and now they will be attempting it in a 9 team league (one of which is our Leafs).

Never likely going to get these odds again and never is Leafs window going to provide a better opportunity to end that drought going on 53 years and counting.

Should make for an interesting trade deadline for those teams playing the odds, and going all-in to take advantage of this unique situation.

 

[666]

Why would we move one of the best #2Cs in hockey to the wing?

I explained that.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

The last time Leafs Cup competitive window was open and Leafs were successful was 1967 when the NHL was still the original 6 teams, before expansion the following year and doubling to 12 teams in 1967-68.

This year for all intents in purposes Leafs competitive window is going back in time, as if essentially the original 6 has expanded by just +3 teams overall that time to now be playing in 9 team NHL again.

Leafs have never won a Cup in a league greater than a 6 team NHL league and now they will be attempting it in a 9 team league (one of which is our Leafs).

Never likely going to get these odds again and never is Leafs window going to provide a better opportunity to end that drought going on 53 years and counting.

Should make for an interesting trade deadline for those teams playing the odds, and going all-in to take advantage of this unique situation.

The exact same odds as every year.....win 4 series or lose.

 

[zeke]

The last time Leafs Cup competitive window was open and Leafs were successful was 1967 when the NHL was still the original 6 teams, before expansion the following year and doubling to 12 teams in 1967-68.

This year for all intents in purposes Leafs competitive window is going back in time, as if essentially the original 6 has expanded by just +3 teams overall that time to now be playing in 9 team NHL again.

Leafs have never won a Cup in a league greater than a 6 team NHL league and now they will be attempting it in a 9 team league (one of which is our Leafs).

Never likely going to get these odds again and never is Leafs window going to provide a better opportunity to end that drought going on 53 years and counting.

Should make for an interesting trade deadline for those teams playing the odds, and going all-in to take advantage of this unique situation.

This is some of your most bizarre spin of all time.

 

[Mess]

The exact same odds as every year.....win 4 series or lose.

Same number of rounds 4 sure, BUT only 8 different teams max faced in regular season and playoffs however.

Leafs will never face 22 of the 30 other teams [nearly 75% of league] even a single game. Leafs only need to defeat ~25% of a normal set of competition between them and the Cup.

In Leafs +100 year storied franchise history the Leafs have never won a Cup among their 13 Wins (counting St Pats and Arenas) in a league where they needed to face more than 7 different teams and that was in 1931-32 in an 8 team league, all other came in a 6 team league of less.

Only 8 different NHL teams stand in Leafs way this year, with Leafs window of opportunity to strike gold and hoist the Cup again. Beating 8 teams [reg & playoffs] is >>>> easier than competing against 30.

Hopefully that clears things up.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Same number of rounds 4 sure, BUT only 8 different teams max faced in regular season and playoffs however.

Leafs will never face 22 of the 30 other teams [nearly 75% of league] even a single game. Leafs only need to defeat ~25% of a normal set of competition between them and the Cup.

In Leafs +100 year storied franchise history the Leafs have never won a Cup among their 13 Wins (counting St Pats and Arenas) in a league where they needed to face more than 7 different teams and that was in 1931-32 in an 8 team league, all other came in a 6 team league of less.

Only 8 different NHL teams stand in Leafs way this year, with Leafs window of opportunity to strike gold and hoist the Cup again. Beating 8 teams [reg & playoffs] is >>>> easier than competing against 30.

Hopefully that clears things up.

Narrator: It didn't.

 

[hotpaws]

This is some of your most bizarre spin of all time.

of all time ?

i think you're selling your spinning a bit short . lol

 

[Twine Tickler]

His next contract should depend on what he does in the playoffs and whether he can carry the team to cups

His next deal will depend on what all other 31 teams will be willing to pay him. Will have nothing to do with what he has done till that time. It’s exactly why his camp negotiated his deal to expire when they did. I am not saying his current contract is bad, it was fair value based on his potential. It’s just something that’s now in Auston’s court. We have almost no leverage come extension time

 

[ChickenMcNugget]

His next deal will depend on what all other 31 teams will be willing to pay him. Will have nothing to do with what he has done till that time. It’s exactly why his camp negotiated his deal to expire when they did. I am not saying his current contract is bad, it was fair value based on his potential. It’s just something that’s now in Auston’s court. We have almost no leverage come extension time

haha that's correct. But i said should not would.

 

[Mess]

Narrator: It didn't.

A quick look at the NHL standings of today, shows the Leafs at #7 overall among the top 10 best teams in the standings, while sitting among 9 X USA based teams.

Best case scenario Leafs don't have to play any of those top 10 based USA teams regular season nor playoffs a single game on the way to the Cup, (lets go upsets), and worst case scenario we have to face max of 2 only, but only in the playoffs & rounds #3 and #4, when there are only 4 teams total remaining.

If the Leafs are going to end their +50 year Cup drought, then you have to love that window of opportunity for the Leafs to have the easiest path the Stanley Cup that this unique once in a lifetime post 1968 expansion has created.

Any time you can remove nearly 75% of the teams in the league from your path to the Cup, then count me in as I like those odds of success, which is causing some unbridled optimism on my part. Particularly coming from someone that witnessed the last one in 1967 in real time, and has been waiting over 50 years for the next one to occur.

 

[Super Mega]

the organization wants this team to be competitive every year and while a really soft window exists due to some exceptional talent they won't mortgage the long term future

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

A quick look at the NHL standings of today, shows the Leafs at #7 overall among the top 10 best teams in the standings, while sitting among 9 X USA based teams.

Best case scenario Leafs don't have to play any of those top 10 based USA teams regular season nor playoffs a single game on the way to the Cup, (lets go upsets), and worst case scenario we have to face max of 2 only, but only in the playoffs & rounds #3 and #4, when there are only 4 teams total remaining.

If the Leafs are going to end their +50 year Cup drought, then you have to love that window of opportunity for the Leafs to have the easiest path the Stanley Cup that this unique once in a lifetime post 1968 expansion has created.

Window is over a decade long bud

 

[sxvnert]

Until Matthews contract is over. Dubas stupidly gave Matthews a NMC on the last year which sets up a Tavares/Isles situation where he could walk free unless they move him a year out.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Same number of rounds 4 sure, BUT only 8 different teams max faced in regular season and playoffs however.

Leafs will never face 22 of the 30 other teams [nearly 75% of league] even a single game. Leafs only need to defeat ~25% of a normal set of competition between them and the Cup.

In Leafs +100 year storied franchise history the Leafs have never won a Cup among their 13 Wins (counting St Pats and Arenas) in a league where they needed to face more than 7 different teams and that was in 1931-32 in an 8 team league, all other came in a 6 team league of less.

Only 8 different NHL teams stand in Leafs way this year, with Leafs window of opportunity to strike gold and hoist the Cup again. Beating 8 teams [reg & playoffs] is >>>> easier than competing against 30.

Hopefully that clears things up.

Who they face in the regular season is irrelevant. They need to beat 4 teams to win.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

The posters saying 10+ years is a bit much. The length we got the big 4 under contract is our window, so 4-5 more years. Also depends on the goaltending we get from Campbell as I think it's clear he's our guy going forward.

 

[kb]

Until Matthews contract is over. Dubas stupidly gave Matthews a NMC on the last year which sets up a Tavares/Isles situation where he could walk free unless they move him a year out.

Or it gives Matthews comfort that he won't be traded, or at least have some say in where he goes? The stupidity isn't management here....

Name a superstar who is eligible for an NMC who doesn't have one? I'll wait....

 

[zeke]

The posters saying 10+ years is a bit much. The length we got the big 4 under contract is our window, so 4-5 more years. Also depends on the goaltending we get from Campbell as I think it's clear he's our guy going forward.

3 of the big 4 will be re-signed for a similar caphit % for 8yrs after these contracts expire.