How bad is the morale of the fanbase right now?

[MakeTheIronSing]

Morale is low because the fan base feels like they’re cheering for the spoiled rich loser.

Nobody wants to watch Hillary Banks, they want Will Smith.

 

[axlrose87]

Randomly found this 6 part Tweet from Peter Holland just now.

Thoughts? He is asking Leafs Nation to be supportive and not condemn Marner (and other players)....interesting not sure what to make of it but it's definitely mental for Marner and no matter how much blocking out of social media he claims he does I'm sure he feels the weight of Leaf fans expectations on him.

f*** off peter Holland.
The last thing we need is another Marner apologist in the media.

 

[hamzarocks]

f*** off peter Holland.
The last thing we need is another Marner apologist in the media.

Peter Holland as in the bust of 2C we traded a 2nd round pick for that became Comtois?

f*** that guy. The man was lazy and dumb as a player. He shouldn't be the one talking. The dude straight up didn't want to work hard. We gave him multiple chances to be a top 9C or top 6W and he didn't want to work hard. He really was a lazy player content to wasting his talents

Don't need Marner further listening to a clown-like that

 

[crump]

It’s a long season but I was willing to wait until the start of this year’s 2nd round to start watching them again after blowing it last playoffs. I got suckered in as usual to the prospect of watching hockey again. I may have to wait until 2023 the way this is going.

 

[socko]

Pretty low. I haven't seen the Leafs waste talent like this since the late 80s, when they traded Courtnall for a second-rate goon, Damphousse for overrated washed-up Fuhr, and ultimately made the trade that cost us Lindros. People say it was Niedermeyer, but no it was Lindros, we were worse than Quebec and they had to tank to be worse than us, we even made a trade with them to help them tank and be worse than us. It was Lindros.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

 

[Zybalto]

It's definitely a period when an awful lot of people are venting on social media. The fact this has happened so early in the season after the disappointing playoffs certainly didn't help things

But rationally speaking, it's only a matter of time for that PDO to snap back to the norm for the team. It'll be curious to see what the mood is when they go on the seasons first winning streak

Well...the PDO is back up to around .990 (which is still crazy low for a team with the Leafs really good underlying numbers this year) as the team went on their inevitable winning streak, against a couple pretty big rivals too.

How's the mood feel?

 

[ToneDog]

Not confident they have what it takes to win in the playoffs but last's night's game gave me some hope. Hopefully they send a statement to Sergachev the next time they play the Lightning.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

*Cackles in Burkeian*

 

[Confucius]

Fans are loving the team, now. Go on a 5 game tailspin and well yeah fire everybody. LOL!

 

[James Blackley]

I have very low expectations of this team tbh

Don't get me wrong, the talent is there, as is the goaltending (thank you soup!), but they are missing that mature mentality that it takes to win a championship. This 5 game streak? Changes nothing, because the Leafs usually play down to the opponent's they think "aren't worthy" and play like all-stars vs the ones they feel are.

Right now? This is a good regular season team, are pretty much a lock to get into the playoffs, and might even secure home ice advantage this time around... after that all bets are off. I have no confidence this team can win a round, whether it be Boston/Tampa or whoever, I just see this team havign the emotional maturity needed to come out on top of a 7 games series... but hey I'm more then open to them proving me wrong.

 

[mikeyz]

Well...the PDO is back up to around .990 (which is still crazy low for a team with the Leafs really good underlying numbers this year) as the team went on their inevitable winning streak, against a couple pretty big rivals too.

How's the mood feel?

TBH with you, my mood is still even keel at best.

Sure, they've been playing well in the past 5 games or so. But, I have seen this movie/song and dance before.

I refuse to get excited for this team until they, at the absolute least make it out of the 1st round of the playoffs. They are not fooling me ever again.

 

[Apex Predator]

My mood is the same as before. I’m still skeptical on the depth and getting scoring from the bottom 6. At the end of the day it all comes to winning a playoff series.

 

[socko]

Extremely concerned about Matthews wrist. He clearly is not the same. Is it mental? Is it physical? Will it come back? I think the team has issues with a healthy Matthews but without they're pretty much a pretender. Matthews is still a gifted goal scorer and he can score in front of the net and maybe a few with a slapshot but the wrist shot is what made him famous.

 

[James Blackley]

My mood is the same as before. I’m still skeptical on the depth and getting scoring from the bottom 6. At the end of the day it all comes to winning a playoff series.

The reason the Leafs lose in the playoffs annually, is because their best players simply are their worst ones out there. Let me break it down:

Matthews: 2 good series (1 vs boston, 1 CBJ)
JT: O good playoff series
Marner: 0 good playoff series
Nylander: 1 good playoff series, the rest trash

You can't win a series when your top dogs are no shows.

 

[notbias]

Extremely concerned about Matthews wrist. He clearly is not the same. Is it mental? Is it physical? Will it come back? I think the team has issues with a healthy Matthews but without they're pretty much a pretender. Matthews is still a gifted goal scorer and he can score in front of the net and maybe a few with a slapshot but the wrist shot is what made him famous.

Have people learned nothing from the last month? Marner was washed up 2 weeks ago.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Have people learned nothing from the last month? Marner was washed up 2 weeks ago.

Also, a weird thing to say about somebody who has 4 goals and 6 points in his last 3 games.

 

[ThrowDemTongs]

My morale is back up

 

[al secord]

Morale is low because the fan base feels like they’re cheering for the spoiled rich loser.

Nobody wants to watch Hillary Banks, they want Will Smith.

I actually wanted to watch Hillary Banks

 

[JustJokinenAround]

morale really can't go up until they win a playoff series right? its all about postseason success now, thats it

 

[Sweetpotato]

Extremely concerned about Matthews wrist. He clearly is not the same. Is it mental? Is it physical? Will it come back? I think the team has issues with a healthy Matthews but without they're pretty much a pretender. Matthews is still a gifted goal scorer and he can score in front of the net and maybe a few with a slapshot but the wrist shot is what made him famous.

I think it's mental right now. The amount of pressure they're under I think he's squeezing the stick to hard, I haven't noticed an issue in his movements.

 

[Fogelhund]

morale really can't go up until they win a playoff series right? its all about postseason success now, thats it

Perhaps, but it sure didn't seem that way when this thread was made, and everyone was panicking, ready to throw everyone overboard.

 

[Twine Tickler]

anyone who says they feel the same as 2 weeks ago is clearly lying to themselves. We beat 2 of the best teams in the NHL and are on a 5 game heater. They've largely played better than the opposition in every game during that stretch.

I wrote after the Leafs got spanked by Pitt 2 weeks ago: "This type of skid in February gains a fraction of the attention. But on the heels of an embarrassing post season there is understandably much more concern. I completely understand everyone's frustrations, I feel it too. I just think we need to take a deep breath for a second here. Realistically it has only been 2 bad games from this group, on B2B nights. Not making excuses at all, they need to be better, but the damage done in the last 3 games can easily be erased by going 7-2-1 in their next 10 games."

They followed that up by losing to Carolina where they got completely outclassed in every aspect of the game, before going on this impressive 5 game streak. As much as I'd like to say all is well in Leaf land, we know exactly what happens with this group when they get too comfortable. As much as what I wrote 2 weeks ago appears to be trending as accurate, this group needs to remember that they are a 3 game losing streak away from that same level of chaos from 2 weeks prior. Absolutely no time to take the foot off the gas. We won some tough games against some good teams, now we need to win the games we should. We have 4 games this week (LAK, PHI, CAL, BUF). We need to set the expectation that 6pts is the absolute expectation from this set. You have to take the LAK and BUF games, and you want to win at least 1 of the 2 games between PHI and CAL. This is the type of stretch that can make this team really feel good about themselves, or bring back that old narrative that we've come to understand all too well. As impressive as this 5 game streak has been, it can all be erased with a bad stretch of games this week.

Historically, this group tends to let us down when they start feeling good about themselves. Lets just hope that's not the case this time around. Can't lose focus for a second in the NHL. There are no tap-in games.

 

[ShaneFalco]

My mood is the same as before. I’m still skeptical on the depth and getting scoring from the bottom 6. At the end of the day it all comes to winning a playoff series.

For some. For others regular season "success" and trying in the playoffs is just fine
Let's see how they fare when thing tighten up later in the year

 

[ACC1224]

For some. For others regular season "success" and trying in the playoffs is just fine
Let's see how they fare when thing tighten up later in the year

Who are these 'others'?
I don't read every post but I've never seen anyone have that opinion.