How bad does Pegula look now?

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Wild, Panthers, Devils, Capitals, Oilers, Ducks, Toronto, Montreal, Senators, Jets, Hurricanes, Kings, Flames, Stars have all changed coaches since Pegula has been hired. That's 14 teams, all whose coaches were not given nearly as much as time Ruff has been given to turn this **** franchise into a winner.

Get a ****ing clue, only Buffalo fans would be comfortable with mediocrity.

Adding this post to the reasons Im glad that the fan who bought the Sabres wasn't one of us.

 

[start winnin]

Stop winnin ... Pegula wasn't hired.

S31 ... Everyone doesn't feel Darcy and Lindy deserve fresh starts. Pegula thinks they deserved a look at what they can do since he bought the team. No drama. No conspiracy. No whining. No crying. No excuses. No lies. You disagree with his opinion? Fine. You don't own the team. You don't like it so so so much? You don't like how the team has been handled the past two calendar years? Root for a different owner/team. You'll be happier.

You know what I meant..

Don't nitpick one little meaningless mistake and look at the rest of post. Past year and a half, 14 teams have changed coaches. It happens, everywhere, except Buffalo of course(and yes I know Nashville).

 

[vcv]

I dunnoh why everyone feel that Darcy and Lindy deserved fresh starts since Pegula took over. Teams are mostly built through the draft and these guys have had how many drafts to build their teams? At one time or another in the last season and a half we've been dead last in the league. Pegula has given them their chance to turn this around and they haven't. They shouldn't need 5 years to turn around a team they built themselves. Giving out 5 year extensions are ridiculous. This is THEIR team. It shouldn't take 5 years to contend and it surely shouldn't take 2-3 to fight for 8th if these guys are SO amazing at what they do.

Its time for Pegula to ditch them both. If he doesn't then nothing he is doing is going to matter.

Not many do and I don't fully agree with it either. I'm not going to base my entire opinion of Terry's ownership off of that though. There is a lot more to it and a lot more left to be done. The story has yet to be told. This... mistake... is just a bump in the road. I think there are better things to come and I'm willing to wait for it, frustrating as it may be considering how long it feels like it's been.

 

[Der Jaeger]

You know what I meant..

Don't nitpick one little meaningless mistake and look at the rest of post. Past year and a half, 14 teams have changed coaches. It happens, everywhere, except Buffalo of course(and yes I know Nashville).

Is everyone really comfortable with Ruff as the coach?

Big business owners don't take the short view. They go for the long view. Fans are angry that the team sucks this year, and want Ruff gone. Pegula's planning horizon might be a decade. Forget the 3 year thing he said - realistically, in planning a business as large as the Sabres in terms of revenue, he's taking a long view approach.

In that light, Ruff getting fired the day Pegula bought the team, on April 27th, or anytime in between is mostly irrelevant.

 

[S319R11S16]

Not many do and I don't fully agree with it either. I'm not going to base my entire opinion of Terry's ownership off of that though. There is a lot more to it and a lot more left to be done. The story has yet to be told. This... mistake... is just a bump in the road. I think there are better things to come and I'm willing to wait for it, frustrating as it may be considering how long it feels like it's been.

I wouldn't say they should have been fired right off the bat, but they shouldn't have been given 5 year extensions either. BOTH of them are WAY too comfortable in their positions. Its good to make guys feel wanted, but in a professional sports environment when your team is a laughing stock for a year and a half you shouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing your owner has your back.

Like I said, those guys built THIS team. Its not like they are new here. This group was assembled by them. The team we had last year was built by them. The reason we are near the bottom of the conference is because of them and the players they chose to have on this roster and give x amount of ice time to.

Like I said I like what Pegula has done, but I'm not rolliing out the red carpet for him until the real issue is fixed. Part of the problem WAS him being a fan who was accustomed to Ruff and Regier. Him liking them and believing in them. He's a people person and I really don't see him making a tough decision about their futures any time soon. I know its possible, but until it happens or we catch wind that they are at the very least on the hot seat, then I will believe it.

 

[Clock]

The extensions mean nothing.

Ted Black has gone so far to essentially said as much.

 

[S319R11S16]

The extensions mean nothing.

Ted Black has gone so far to essentially said as much.

Believe it when I see it.

 

[Clock]

Believe it when I see it.

It doesn't really matter if you believe it or not, it's just evidence that stands to the contrary of the tired "they got extensions so we're definitely screwed!" argument.

 

[S319R11S16]

It doesn't really matter if you believe it or not, it's just evidence that stands to the contrary of the tired "they got extensions so we're definitely screwed!" argument.

The 5 year extensions tell me that Pegula and Black both feel that without a doubt these guys can get the job done.

Blacks statement was just saying that we have the option to do away with the contract at anytime... thats obvious.

Doesn't mean they will though.

 

[SackTastic]

the 5 year extensions tell me that pegula and black both feel that without a doubt these guys can get the job done.

Blacks statement was just saying that we have the option to do away with the contract at anytime... Thats obvious.

doesn't mean they will though.

and it doesn't mean they won't either.

 

[S319R11S16]

and it doesn't mean they won't either.

Like I said.

Believe it when I see it.

Until then, I'm not gloating over how great our owner is. His greatness will come out when there are hard decisions to make; not when his most difficult task is to sign a check for $10 million dollars to Tyler Myers or to figure out what paint color looks the best in the 100 level.

 

[Clock]

Like I said.

Believe it when I see it.

Until then, I'm not gloating over how great our owner is. His greatness will come out when there are hard decisions to make; not when his most difficult task is to sign a check for $10 million dollars to Tyler Myers or to figure out what paint color looks the best in the 100 level.

It's less about gloating over how great our owner is and more about stating that he isn't necessarily an idiot for not being as reactionary as a fanbase that is probably privy to 5% of the information available to him.

 

[S319R11S16]

It's less about gloating over how great our owner is and more about stating that he isn't necessarily an idiot for not being as reactionary as a fanbase that is probably privy to 5% of the information available to him.

Like I said before. The little things obviously make alot of you guys happy. They do nothing for me if the team doesn't win. I was told their sole existence is to win the cup. Fighting around the bottom of the conference isn't okay with me and I will continue to ***** til something is done to change it. I know my words don't matter and he is going to do whatever he feels is the right thing, but as of now I've seen nothing but alot of money spent on senseless things that haven't resulted in a positive in the standings chart which at the end of the day, is all that matters.

 

[vcv]

Like I said before. The little things obviously make alot of you guys happy. They do nothing for me if the team doesn't win. I was told their sole existence is to win the cup. Fighting around the bottom of the conference isn't okay with me and I will continue to ***** til something is done to change it. I know my words don't matter and he is going to do whatever he feels is the right thing, but as of now I've seen nothing but alot of money spent on senseless things that haven't resulted in a positive in the standings chart which at the end of the day, is all that matters.

What you're not understanding is that other people can separate the on-ice performance and off-ice things that Terry does. Being excited about everything else he's doing does not equate to being excited or even content with what he's done in regards to the GM/Coach.

Some of us don't like it, but have faith that the right decision will ultimately be made, even if later than we may want.

 

[Clock]

Like I said before. The little things obviously make alot of you guys happy. They do nothing for me if the team doesn't win.

I agree that the things Pegula are doing (outside of what he's doing for the city itself) are generally meaningless if they don't translate to a winning team.

I very much disagree that those results should be evident in the short time that he's owned the team, especially since meaningful moves to personnel have been made. It's not like Pegula and Black haven't made meaningful moves. That those moves haven't translated to the ice yet is disappointing, but the message has consistently been that the championship is the goal and that any moves to get there will be made.

If this performance continues and Ruff isn't let go before the start of season, I'll be right with the crowd that's raising an eyebrow at Pegula / Black. Not there yet, though.

 

[Imagining Defeat]

It's less about gloating over how great our owner is and more about stating that he isn't necessarily an idiot for not being as reactionary as a fanbase that is probably privy to 5% of the information available to him.

Well if Pegula wanted to use all the information available to him he'd use the full 15 years of Ruff rather than waiting for a few years of personal experience to make a decision...

 

[ZZamboni]

Well if Pegula wanted to use all the information available to him he'd use the full 15 years of Ruff rather than waiting for a few years of personal experience to make a decision...

Not true. Wanting to SEE actions and results under Pegula is his right as an owner. Thinking with a clear head, there's nothing wrong with what he did. Thinking with emotion of past failures, Pegula was wrong with keeping Ruff and Regier past the first day of ownership.

 

[Karate Johnson*]

Lol at the "it takes time" argument


We are worse than when Pegula took over.

 

[Imagining Defeat]

Not true. Wanting to SEE actions and results under Pegula is his right as an owner. Thinking with a clear head, there's nothing wrong with what he did. Thinking with emotion of past failures, Pegula was wrong with keeping Ruff and Regier past the first day of ownership.

It's totally his right for sure...but a smart business man surrounds himself with people smarter than himself...I wonder who really has his ear at times and advised that keeping them was the right direction...or is he really the fanboy most of us hope he isn't.

 

[ZZamboni]

It's totally his right for sure...but a smart business man surrounds himself with people smarter than himself...I wonder who really has his ear at times and advised that keeping them was the right direction...or is he really the fanboy most of us hope he isn't.

He did surround himself with good hockey people. It's not complicated full of conspiracy theories and hidden agendas (not saying you think that) He simple wanted to see what Ruff and Regier can or can't do under his ownership. This month is two calendar years since his ownership began. I think he's seeing an eyeful, and I would suspect he doesn't like it. But the summer is the earliest I think he will do ANYTHING significant. And the suffering continues.

 

[Rhett4]

Ted Black seems like the only one in that front office with some savvy, and if you read between the lines on some of his interviews, I think he would have fired Ruff long ago if he had the power. My only hope is that he can somehow convince Pegula to twist Regier's arm to the point that Regier does it. I have my doubts even Black can sway Pegula, though, sadly.

 

[Karate Johnson*]

Twisting Regiers arm isn't neccessary.

You tell him how it's gonna be.


I am 100% sick of people acting like Regier is some awesome asset that we have to keep happy.

He's just as lucky to have a job as Lindy. And he's just as bad at his job as lindy.

 

[Slapshot85]

Stopped reading right there.

Those extensions mean nothing. They can be fired tomorrow if Pegula chooses to.

It's the message the extensions send.

 

[RazielMoshman]

Like I said before. The little things obviously make alot of you guys happy. They do nothing for me if the team doesn't win. I was told their sole existence is to win the cup. Fighting around the bottom of the conference isn't okay with me and I will continue to ***** til something is done to change it. I know my words don't matter and he is going to do whatever he feels is the right thing, but as of now I've seen nothing but alot of money spent on senseless things that haven't resulted in a positive in the standings chart which at the end of the day, is all that matters.

Hate to burst your anger bubble but Pegula doesn't run the hockey operations. It's not his job to fire Ruff and Regier. I think that might be Ted Blacks job, or someone else's. Pegula has provided us with security and money, we cannot ask any more of the owner. He has to run the Sabres as a business and make sure we turn a profit, otherwise it's for nothing.

 

[S319R11S16]

Hate to burst your anger bubble but Pegula doesn't run the hockey operations. It's not his job to fire Ruff and Regier. I think that might be Ted Blacks job, or someone else's. Pegula has provided us with security and money, we cannot ask any more of the owner. He has to run the Sabres as a business and make sure we turn a profit, otherwise it's for nothing.

You think, but you don't know. So stop spewing off as though you do.

Personally I've said since last year we need a true HOCKEY GUY above Regier to oversee things. Black is not a hockey guy. Sawyer is not a hockey guy. If we had one of those guys there would be NO issue with this mess. NO true hockey guy would "rely on people around the league" when it comes to keeping or not keeping a head coach or GM.