How aggressive should the Leafs be at the deadline?

[ULF_55]

Go for it.

All in but for the next 3 playoffs.

So all in but not for a singular end of year rental, for a non-impact player.

 

[HockeyVirus]

They have 30+ million in Cap space in the off season they can absolutely keep Marner if they choose to, the question is will they choose to?

They absolutely can.

I'm not convinced giving Treliving 30 million in cap to spend is a great thing just yet. Like I said, I think this is our year

 

[Evilhomer]

I'm not convinced giving Treliving 30 million in cap to spend is a great thing just yet. Like I said, I think this is our year

Don't worry, he won't have $30 million. He will sign Marner and Tavares, and likely Knies, before the season ends.

 

[Torontonian]

Toronto should be all in when it comes to trading picks for rentals, and top prospects for players like Minten, Cowan, Danford with 3 to 4 years left on contracts.

Also a firm believer if you're going to be a buyer at the deadline, to get your targeted player as soon as possible, getting them on deadline day is too late for them to adjust to everything.

 

[Evilhomer]

Also a firm believer if you're going to be a buyer at the deadline, to get you're targeted player as soon as possible, getting them on deadline day is too late for them to adjust to everything.

Yup, Go get the guy now, even if it might cost a bit more.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Toronto should be all in when it comes to trading picks for rentals, and top prospects for players like Minten, Cowan, Danford with 3 to 4 years left on contracts.

Also a firm believer if you're going to be a buyer at the deadline, to get you're targeted player as soon as possible, getting them on deadline day is too late for them to adjust to everything.

Get them before 4 nations and they have 3 weeks to find a place, get settled, get to know the arena and some staff and players still around etc before they ever officially join the team.

 

[The Iceman]

Unpopular take of the day.
I would never be all in. Hate selling futures for rentals.

Florida made the Cup final in 2023.
They made zero deadline deals.
Beat Boston first round who went scorched earth all in.

As a fan I don't want to sell valuable future assets for a 1 in 16 lottery ticket and suffer for years after.
I was a big Raps fan, they went all in and won. Now I could care less if they cancelled their season or not.

I enjoy watching the Leafs, excited every playoff. I wouldn't want them to be chasing a lottery pick 3 years from now and irrelevant.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Unpopular take of the day.
I would never be all in. Hate selling futures for rentals.

Florida made the Cup final in 2023.
They made zero deadline deals.
Beat Boston first round who went scorched earth all in.

As a fan I don't want to sell valuable future assets for a 1 in 16 lottery ticket and suffer for years after.
I was a big Raps fan, they went all in and won. Now I could care less if they cancelled their season or not.

I enjoy watching the Leafs, excited every playoff. I wouldn't want them to be chasing a lottery pick 3 years from now and irrelevant.

I'm not suggesting trading our top prospects for rentals, I Cowan, or Minten or I guess Danford, although I'm not as high on Danford, but if they go I want guys with term.

But I don't think you can be afraid of moving them either especially given where they are in the standings.

You said yourself you watched the Raptors go all in. Granted they HORRENDOUS now, but they achieved the goal, they won the championship that can never be taken away..

I want a Leaf championship and I don't think that's happening with Max Domi at 3C.

and if they are going to take Patches out of the lineup they need a need a winger too.

Because as much as I LOVE me some Steven Lorentz and I do he is NOT a 3rd line winger.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I don't think you have to go all in. Even if you do go all in, you go from a 5% chance to what? 7%? If there is an obvious player out there that can improve the team, go ahead. But there is no need to go silly. They have a decent chance as it is.

 

[darrylsittler27]

I don't want rentals. If it's a McCabe type trade that's different.

 

[I am Canadian]

They signed an aging defense core. You go for it now.

Go get a good #3 center. I don't really see anywhere else where you need to upgrade the roster.

 

[SprDaVE]

You gotta try as best as you can to give yourself the best chance. Going all in backfires a lot but I don't think adding a player or two is really going all in.

 

[NinjaKick]

I'll be disappointed if we still have our 1st round pick when the deadline ends. we got this, all in.

 

[Dekes For Days]

This is the year to go for it. Tavares isn't getting younger, there's the Marner uncertainty, and we've built our moves around the next few years. We're unfortunately not looking as good as I would have hoped in a go for it year, but our division and conference is the weakest it's ever been too, and our goaltending looks strong so far, so it's worth doing what we can, within reason.

 

[Commander Clueless]

*Checks score tonight*

Okay yeah maybe let's get estimates.

 

[NVious]

This is 100% the year to go for it.

I don't care about futures in the next 4-6 years, this is as good as it's going to get.

At the bare minimum get a 3c, but a dream target for me is Josi. I'd give up 4 1sts for him or 2 1sts and Cowan and Minten.

Once Matthews/Marner/Nylander are out of their prime, we're probably going to have to rebuild anyways or retool around 1 or two of them.

This is it and honestly probably as good as it's going to get in terms of talent, this group has it in spades, it's about giving them the best chance to win.

There is nothing to save for either, all the 1sts we have are 2-4 years away from contributing and at that point it's likely the core won't be as good, so even if our 25-32 picks pan out, they're really not slated to be game breakers of the same calibre (AT BEST). At that point the core will be in their mid 30s and generally speaking mid 30s players aren't making runs.

 

[NVious]

Very aggressive.

Hopefully for players we can keep around.


My campaign to bring back Luke Schenn for a third go around begins now.

At the minimum I want Schenn and O Rielly back (last time we won series).

At max I want Miller or Josi for whatever it takes to get them.

LTIR Matthews at the deadline like the Vegas Golden Asterisks and the Tampa Bay Asterisks and make it happen

 

[mjd1001]

Very aggressive. All in.

Trade a first pick AND a prospect if you are getting help.

With the conference the way its playing out, this year might be the best look they have at going deep in the past decade.

Nylander is 29 during the playoffs this year, Marner 28, Matthews 27, and Tavares 34. I want to give this core help NOW, I don't want to hold onto picks or prospects that won't help these guys out until they are all 30 or older.

 

[Maple Leaf]

they should go all if before the marner era is finally over

 

[sunstersun]

We should sell as much as possible.

 

[robertmac43]

Add depth and that's about it. 3C would be my top choice.

 

[horner]

Very aggressive. All in.

Trade a first pick AND a prospect if you are getting help.

With the conference the way its playing out, this year might be the best look they have at going deep in the past decade.

Nylander is 29 during the playoffs this year, Marner 28, Matthews 27, and Tavares 34. I want to give this core help NOW, I don't want to hold onto picks or prospects that won't help these guys out until they are all 30 or older.

The core have never shown that they can do it in the playoffs.
We have 2 goaltenders that have never played over 30 games in a season . Also both having a history of injuries.
Mathews with a wonky back, could be gone for 10 games at anytime.
McCabe 2 consecutive concussions

And we haven't played great in the last 5 games
Woll except for last night night has been great, if not for him won half of those games .

I would trade for a 3 C

To me this was always going to be a transition year yr
1. New coach
2. We are finally fixing the Defense
3. We are finally building center depth
4. We finally have some prospects in the system

 

[hamzarocks]

If you can trade Cowan + 1st for a Hagel type player (23-23 and a guy with skill to be a ppg player) then you give up those assets

Dont give up a 1st + Danford/Cowan for Nelson/RoR other rentals who have limited upside and wont be able to play big role for this team