How aggressive should the Leafs be at the deadline? New Poll Added ... apologies

[IPS]

I'm typically never in favor of going all in but this year is an exception. Core 4 is getting in their late 20's, the clock is ticking, and I don't exactly think our prospect pool is lending itself to any sort of second wind later on. Don't even care what they give up, no half measure moves like Dubas acquiring Giordano instead of Lindholm circa 2022 deadline, burn what it takes and get a legitimate team improving piece.

 

[Taylor Halls Teeth]

This is a good team. When they get any kind of goaltending they can beat any team on any night and they have two goalies who look better than what they have been able to roll out for a few years. I like this coach more than Keefe and I like the year the big 4 are having more than for a long time. They are actually a big 4 again. Two new forwards, one with term and another pure rental will do some real damage. I know the D could use something too but the cost for a legit upgrade would be too much IMO.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I'm typically never in favor of going all in but this year is an exception. Core 4 is getting in their late 20's, the clock is ticking, and I don't exactly think our prospect pool is lending itself to any sort of second wind later on. Don't even care what they give up, no half measure moves like Dubas acquiring Giordano instead of Lindholm circa 2022 deadline, burn what it takes and get a legitimate team improving piece.

I feel the same. No rentals though, our window should be open for another year or two after this one so a legit piece with term, something along the lines of what the Muzzin trade was a few years ago. Today's version of Muzzin would be perfect actually.

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

Sens lost 4 in a row.. Think it's too early to go woo Brady T outta there and get him to ride shotgun for Matty and Mitch..?? Want to see our boys grow a pair - get a Tkachuk on their line and presto!

I guess it would practically cost a Marner though, and he'd have to waive - so ya.. maybe not.

A fella can dream tho..

 

[sittler rules!!!]

Me thinks the focus should be on a top RHD. Or even a top pairing if available and price is right.

I believe they have adequate depth at forward and are solid If they run:

Kneiss Matthews Jarnkrok
Patches Taveras Marner
McMahon Domi Nylander
Lorentz Kampf Dewar

That third line has clicked in the past.

Move Robertson. Seen enough.

What top 4 righty D's? Puloch ? Weeger? Larsen?

 

[Anthrax442]

as long as they dont trade Grebyonkin, im down for whatever

 

[kevsh]

Me thinks the focus should be on a top RHD. Or even a top pairing if available and price is right.

I believe they have adequate depth at forward and are solid If they run:

Kneiss Matthews Jarnkrok
Patches Taveras Marner
McMahon Domi Nylander
Lorentz Kampf Dewar

That third line has clicked in the past.

Move Robertson. Seen enough.

What top 4 righty D's? Puloch ? Weeger? Larsen?

Top Pairing RHD will be very tough to come by considering the Leafs don't have a first this year. Not sure where they stand on moving Cowan/Minten but I'd think they'd have to be in play if that's Treliving's target. (And they may be if Shanny's banking - almost certainly correctly - on a contract extension for himself being tied to real playoff success this year).

A depth RD may be attainable otherwise.

We also can't have Domi as the 3C. Outside of a very brief stretch he's been pretty bad.

Safe bet is Treliving will be targeting a 3C as his top priority (assuming no major injuries between now and the TDL) and that will move Domi to the wing.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

I'd be targeting Cates from Philly and Andersson from Calgary. Cates is at .42 points per game for his career with a high end defensive game and is only 27. He could be a home run pick up at 3C if his offense improves even slightly being on the leafs instead of the flyers. Andersson is a top pair RHD so that is self explanatory.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I hate to be my pessimistic Leafs self but I see this team as a mirage. I don't think their position in the standings represents the play I see on ice. Basically, I think they've been lucky. I wouldn't spend any significant assets to "go all in". They need to roll with with they've got. I mean, they already have 4 $11M+ players plus decent goaltending and defense, what more assets do they need? Hard no on my end for going all in. Looks like they need a little defensive depth, that's about it so I picked trading a 2nd rounder in the poll.

 

[ULF_55]

Apparently according to doug maclean:

"It’s fascinating from a Toronto perspective. According to Pagé, an offer for Lindros from the Maple Leafs included Doug Gilmour, Wendel Clark, Félix Potvin, Dave Ellett, Ken Baumgartner, Darby Hendrickson, and $15 million — only Toronto’s best player, team captain, No. 1 goaltender, top defencemen, and extras. In return, Pagé says, the Leafs would have received Lindros, the fourth overall pick in the 1992 draft, goaltenders John Tanner and Stéphane Fiset, and winger Andrei Kovalenko. "

https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/here-s-the-eric-lindros-trade-the-maple-leafs-never-made-with-the-nordiques/article_f36836e0-68d4-50b7-8aad-7c524f5fd34f.html#:~:text=MacLean%2C%20the%20assistant%20general%20manager,Sergei%20Fedorov%20instead%20of%20Yzerman.

Too rich for me.

4th. overall had some good options, Todd Warriner wasn't one of them.

1992 NHL Entry Draft Picks at hockeydb.com

A sortable list of players drafted in the 1992 NHL Entry draft, including their career scoring after being drafted

www.hockeydb.com

Would you do that deal for Mario?

 

[Hellcat]

Open to anything but trading a 1st or anything named Cowan or Minten. If you are that far away you need to trade 1st and top prospects, you probably shouldn't be trading

 

[ULF_55]

I hate to be my pessimistic Leafs self but I see this team as a mirage. I don't think their position in the standings represents the play I see on ice. Basically, I think they've been lucky. I wouldn't spend any significant assets to "go all in". They need to roll with with they've got. I mean, they already have 4 $11M+ players plus decent goaltending and defense, what more assets do they need? Hard no on my end for going all in. Looks like they need a little defensive depth, that's about it so I picked trading a 2nd rounder in the poll.

I agree and disagree.

I see a mirage, but unless they make major changes to the team a depth defender isn't going to make them legit.

As a mirage team, trading for depth seems like throwing assets away to claim you're doing your GM job.

The core is unchanged, other than Knies is progressing.
Paccioretty, Lorentz are adds, depth players.
Stolarz first time starter, comes with 1 playoffs game (34.5 minutes) under his belt.

 

[NMacrules]

Knies-Mathews-Marner
Patches-Nelson-Nylander
Maroon-Tavares-McMann
Jeannot-Lorentz-Domi

extras: Holmberg, Dewar, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves,

Maroon for a 3rd
Jeannot for a 2nd
Nelson for Murray, Robertson, 4th

Team is tough, talented, big and mobile with tons of depth. These are the players we need for the playoffs. You could also switch Maroon for Jeannot on the 3rd line.

We are set in goal and on D.

 

[hullsy47]

Knies-Mathews-Marner
Patches-Nelson-Nylander
Maroon-Tavares-McMann
Jeannot-Lorentz-Domi

extras: Holmberg, Dewar, Jarnkrok, Kampf, Reaves,

Maroon for a 3rd
Jeannot for a 2nd
Nelson for Murray, Robertson, 4th

Team is tough, talented, big and mobile with tons of depth. These are the players we need for the playoffs. You could also switch Maroon for Jeannot on the 3rd line.

We are set in goal and on D.

First thing u can't let marner get past the deadline without him being signed
All we need is him not signed and have a lousy playoff then walk
In my book the leafs either sign marner or let this bunch go as far as it can

 

[ToneDog]

First thing u can't let marner get past the deadline without him being signed
All we need is him not signed and have a lousy playoff then walk
In my book the leafs either sign marner or let this bunch go as far as it can

Let him walk if he wants to if they have another lousy playoff.

All I'd be in for is a solid #2C that can fill Tavares' spot going forward. Tavares can be resigned as a #3C or #2/3 LW in July.

 

[Menzinger]

I agree and disagree.

I see a mirage, but unless they make major changes to the team a depth defender isn't going to make them legit.

As a mirage team, trading for depth seems like throwing assets away to claim you're doing your GM job.

The core is unchanged, other than Knies is progressing.
Paccioretty, Lorentz are adds, depth players.
Stolarz first time starter, comes with 1 playoffs game (34.5 minutes) under his belt.

This is fair, though even still the majority of Leafs playoff losses have come down to tight series determined by a final 60min game.

The right depth acquisition could still easily make a difference.

I don't have any attachment to any of the teams future draft picks....

 

[nuck]

This is fair, though even still the majority of Leafs playoff losses have come down to tight series determined by a final 60min game.

The right depth acquisition could still easily make a difference.

I don't have any attachment to any of the teams future draft picks....

The thread is asking for posters thoughts, not what the club might do but I think my thoughts are close to theirs anyway Shanny can't afford to fail again, not just for his job security but for his legacy so he will green light if not push Treliving to spend. I suspect whatever the club has is on the table and the various reports they want assets with term says they will blow futures with the idea that it helps with a couple of playoff runs. You want someone in their prime so don't get to attached to your favorite prospect(s). I don't expect they will be giving anything away either because they aren't in goalie hell any more and that particular need makes GMs stupid.

 

[ULF_55]

This is fair, though even still the majority of Leafs playoff losses have come down to tight series determined by a final 60min game.

The right depth acquisition could still easily make a difference.

I don't have any attachment to any of the teams future draft picks....

It might make a bit of difference, but I don't think they are on the precipice of greatness, where a better 3rd. line center is going to push them over the top.

Maybe a better 3rd. pairing defender and 3rd. line center nudge them into the 2nd. round, but at what cost? Two 2nd. round picks along with 2 mediocre prospects for 2-3 extra home games?

Use the prospects or go after a player who isn't going to fall in behind the current leadership group. They need someone to slap their leadership group on the back (or across the face) and say get to it. No one who is going to take a back seat to these perennial ...

 

[TopCheeseShotta]

They need someone to slap their leadership group on the back (or across the face) and say get to it. No one who is going to take a back seat to these perennial ...

Sell the farm on Brady then!
Make them an offer they can't refuse