Post-Game Talk: Hot Croissant... Jets win 1-0!

WolfgangPuck

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I think one of reason LB got the start in Vancouver was that his family is from Surrey
I’m no lawyer but from what I read about his RFA status
Doesn’t he qualify as UFA if he play more than 28 games this season as a group 6 RFA?
Who knows?
 
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Copp, Lowry and Morrow? I don't believe any of them are on IR.

I'm assuming he means the lineup including Copp and Lowry after the break.
Maurice said that both would be players vs Calgary.

2 of Lemieux, Appleton and Petan have to sit (assuming we don't have other injuries)

My first guess is reverse order that they went into the lineup.
That would mean Petan and Lemieux out first.

To me who is the best fit to play with Perreault and Roslovic?
Copp will find his way back to the Lowry line sooner or later.

I think Appleton gets the first crack.
 

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Ok, so maybe I wasn’t quite right. Lol But do we expect Bro to get a couple extra starts after the break?

If all goes according to plan, we'll have cinched or virtually cinched our spot in the playoff picture during the middle of that crazy March (like, a game every other day for a whole month? Yikes!) and LB will likely catch up a bunch there. That'd be my estimation.
 

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But he is a RFA so under team control. He will get a raise but it will be in line with what most backups make rather the current league minimum. He will need to string a few strong seasons together as a backup to get any nibbles on the open market once he hits UFA status.

The Jets signed him as a UFA so how is he an RFA? Capfriendly agrees with you that he is RFA status but I am not sure how this works. I thought once you hit UFA status, the rest of your contracts are UFA contracts as well.
 

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I was wondering about that too
I figure he’s RFA under the Oilers and Jets made an offer that Oilers didn’t match.
Because it was under 1.3 million, Jets don’t have to compensate Oilers
Just a guess
 

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But playing spot duty in the first half season of an NHL career is beyond the usual "context". That's why I think it's a bit premature to assess Lemieux at the NHL level. He clearly has some development needed, but I'd wait a bit before putting too much stock in his stats.

Ironically you are missing all the context of each of my comments.

1) It's not premature to describe his results have been bad so far, when discussing how his results have been thus far.

It's perfectly descriptive of his performance thus far.
It's premature to say that is descriptive of how his future performance will be.
That said, sampling is continuous. You can't put too much stock in his stats now on how he will be, but you have to put some stock within.
The confidence intervals may be large, but they go both ways and the mean is very low.

2) I never said it accounts for all context.

The person made a false claim that I ignore context. The subtext is also that I blindly just go by numbers as if I don't analyze the underlying information within and combine that with my own domain knowledge, experience, and eye test.
My point was merely to refute that person's false picture painted of me and how I use these numbers.
 

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If all goes according to plan, we'll have cinched or virtually cinched our spot in the playoff picture during the middle of that crazy March (like, a game every other day for a whole month? Yikes!) and LB will likely catch up a bunch there. That'd be my estimation.
Jets really just need to play .500 hockey now to make the playoffs.
 
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The Jets signed him as a UFA so how is he an RFA? Capfriendly agrees with you that he is RFA status but I am not sure how this works. I thought once you hit UFA status, the rest of your contracts are UFA contracts as well.
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I would think if Capfriendly lists him as a RFA -- then that's what he is. In order to become an UFA -- you have to put in so much time --likely about 6 years, This is the reason why Trouba is here, as he's not reached UFA status yet. I think Trouba's been here about 6 years, and still has another year as a RFA. It's quite some time til you get UFA status.

I believe you have to do so much time, and I doubt Brossoit is close to being a UFA. It would depend on how much time he's spent with NHL clubs, and it's been very little. He was with Calgary's farm club for 6-8 mos, then with the Oilers for 6-8 months. That's not very long.

I would think Brossoit has another 4 years, at least as a RFA -which is great for the Jets. I'm not positive on this, but it only makes sense. The ruling is there to control costs on young players contracts for the NHL clubs. If that ruling wasn't in place, players would be coming and going all the time, and you could not keep a club together.
 
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The Jets signed him as a UFA so how is he an RFA? Capfriendly agrees with you that he is RFA status but I am not sure how this works. I thought once you hit UFA status, the rest of your contracts are UFA contracts as well.

I was wondering about that too
I figure he’s RFA under the Oilers and Jets made an offer that Oilers didn’t match.
Because it was under 1.3 million, Jets don’t have to compensate Oilers
Just a guess

RFA status is based on age and amount of NHL service.

If a RFA player is not signed by their team, they become UFA. If a team then signs them, what determines whether or not their RFA again reverts back to the same rules (age/service) as it would be if they were extended by their original team.

Perreault was also an example of this.
1) WSH signed him for two years, where he was RFA at the end of his term, and then he was later traded to ANA.
2) ANA decided not to sign him so Perreault went to UFA.
3) Jets signed him for 3 seasons of term, of where he would have been an RFA afterward.
4) The Jets then extended him for an additional 4 seasons, of where he will be an UFA afterward.
 
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It's amazing how big that 11 point lead on the playoff line is even with 90-ish points up for grabs for each team.
Oh you don't have to tell a Jets fan how hard those points are to gain on teams ahead of you . I remember not long ago when the Jets were just trying to make the playoffs how difficult it was to gain even a couple of points on teams above us , that loser point makes it tough to gain on the teams above you .
 
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RFA status is based on age and amount of NHL service.

If a RFA player is not signed by their team, they become UFA. If a team then signs them, what determines whether or not their RFA again reverts back to the same rules (age/service) as it would be if they were extended by their original team.

Perreault was also an example of this.
1) WSH signed him for two years, where he was RFA at the end of his term, and then he was later traded to ANA.
2) ANA decided not to sign him so Perreault went to UFA.
3) Jets signed him for 3 seasons of term, of where he would have been an RFA afterward.
4) The Jets then extended him for an additional 4 seasons, of where he will be an UFA afterward.
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I'm sure garret is quite correct here -"makes total sense."--and afterall, garret is a man that does his homework. :nod:
 

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RFA status is based on age and amount of NHL service.

If a RFA player is not signed by their team, they become UFA. If a team then signs them, what determines whether or not their RFA again reverts back to the same rules (age/service) as it would be if they were extended by their original team.

Perreault was also an example of this.
1) WSH signed him for two years, where he was RFA at the end of his term, and then he was later traded to ANA.
2) ANA decided not to sign him so Perreault went to UFA.
3) Jets signed him for 3 seasons of term, of where he would have been an RFA afterward.
4) The Jets then extended him for an additional 4 seasons, of where he will be an UFA afterward.

I believe Perreault was 25 when he initially signed, thus was headed toward UFA status.

Hutchinson is an example, though.
 

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Researching the Oilers forum and came up with this thread:
Using Petr Mrazeks development as a guide for Laurent Brossoit

One Oiler poster had high hopes for Brossoit in 2016 and compared his development to Hellybucyks
It worked out for the Jets that Oilers gave up on LB when they signed Koskinen and Montoya

I'm starting to think that the Lucic trade wasn't the biggest mistake their management made in recent memory.
 

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No might about it, he is. I think there are other factors at play but Lowry and to a lesser extent Copp are bigger pieces than some realize.

Yea those two on our 3rd line make a big difference.
 
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