HOH Top 60 Goaltenders of All Time (2024 Edition) - Voting Results

[seventieslord]

I wonder if we'll ever know who voted Tom Barrasso number one.

 

[frisco]

The Hockey News TOP 100 GOALIES OF ALL-TIME (2018)

1. Terry Sawchuk
2. Patrick Roy
3. Martin Brodeur
4. Jacques Plante
5. Dominik Hasek
6. Glenn Hall
7. Ken Dryden
8. Bill Durnan
9. George Hainsworth
10. Turk Broda
11. Bernie Parent
12. Frank Brimsek
13. Grant Fuhr
14. Georges Vezina
15. Charlie Gardiner
16. Clint Benedict
17. Tony Esposito
18. Ed Belfour
19. Billy Smith
20. Lorne Chabot
21. Tiny Thompson
22. Johnny Bower
23. Roy Worters
24. Henrik Lundqvist
25. Gump Worsley
26. Tom Barrasso
27. Carey Price
28. Harry Lumley
29. Roberto Luongo
30. Ed Giacomin
31. Alec Connell
32. Jonathan Quick
33. Rogie Vachon
34. Hap Holmes
35. Tim Thomas
36. Curtis Joseph
37. Chuck Rayner
38. Mike Vernon
39. Gerry Cheevers
40. Marc-Andre Fleury
41. Miikka Kiprusoff
42. John Vanbiesbrouck
43. Mike Richter
44. Dave Kerr
45. Ron Hextall
46. Sergei Bobrovsky
47. Mike Liut
48. Pekka Rinne
49. Al Rollins
50. John Ross Roach
51. Chris Osgood
52. Tuukka Rask
53. Ryan Miller
54. Roger Crozier
55. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
56. Evgeni Nabokov
57. Andy Moog
58. Nikolai Khabibulin
59. Pete Peeters
60. Corey Crawford
61. Bill Ranford
62. Normie Smith
63. Chico Resch
64. Olaf Kolzig
65. Braden Holtby
66. Charlie Hodge
67. Tomas Vokoun
68. Kelly Hrudey
69. Sean Burke
70. Gerry McNeil
71. Pelle Lindbergh
72. Jose Theodore
73. Dan Bouchard
74. Marty Turco
75. Gilles Meloche
76. Don Edwards
77. Felix Potvin
78. Mike Karakas
79. Jim Henry
80. Cam Ward
81. Johnny Mowers
82. Kirk McLean
83. Wilf Cude
84. Reggie Lemelin
85. Don Beaupre
86. Cesare Maniago
87. Eddie Johnston
88. Ben Bishop
89. Richard Brodeur
90. Mike Palmateer
91. Craig Anderson
92. Ilya Bryzgalov
93. Arturs Irbe
94. Guy Hebert
95. Semyon Varlamov
96. Jaroslav Halak
97. Cory Schneider
98. Earl Robertson
99. Don Simmons
100. Daren Puppa

Additional listings:

The Hockey News: TOP 10 NON-NHL GOALIES

1. Hugh Lehman
2. Percy Lesueur
3. Riley Hern
4. Paddy Moran
5. Tom Paton
6. John Bower Hutton
7. Billy Nicholson
8. Joe Daley
9. Hal Winkler
10. Bert Lindsay

The Hockey News: TOP 10 INTERNATIONAL GOALIES
1. Vladislav Tretiak
2. Jiri Holecek
3. Seth Martin
4. Peter Lindmark
5. Vladimir Dzurilla
6. Jiri Kralik
7. Viktor Konovalenko
8. Leif Holmqvist
9. Bohumil Modry
10. Urpo Ylonen

Was anyone here involved in this project?

My Best-Carey

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Was anyone here involved in this project?

Several. Three or four, I believe.

 

[GRob83]

The Hockey News TOP 100 GOALIES OF ALL-TIME (2018)

64. Olaf Kolzig
65. Braden Holtby

Was the list made before the Capitals won the 2018 Stanley Cup? There is no way Kolzig should be above Holtby and I love me some Olie Kolzig.

 

[seventieslord]

The Hockey News TOP 100 GOALIES OF ALL-TIME (2018)

64. Olaf Kolzig
65. Braden Holtby

Was the list made before the Capitals won the 2018 Stanley Cup? There is no way Kolzig should be above Holtby and I love me some Olie Kolzig.

It was after the cup.

Holtby was just 28 and had played just over half the career games of Kolzig. I'm surprised there was only one spot separating them, honestly.

 

[frisco]

I wonder if we'll ever know who voted Tom Barrasso number one.

The man knows his goaltending whoever it was.

My Best-Carey

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Vote 7
18/19 voters

Goalie	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th	9th	10th	NR	Total
Hap Holmes	3	2	4	2		1	1		1	1	3	106
Curtis Joseph	4	2	2	1	1	2	1		1	3	1	106
Miikka Kiprusoff	4	1	1	2	3	1		2	1	1	2	103
John Vanbiesbrouck	2	4	1	1	1	2		2	1		4	95
Jonathan Quick	1	1	3	1	2	1	1	1	4		3	82
Tom Barrasso	2	1	3			1	1	2	2	3	3	75
Percy LeSueur		2	1	1	1	4	1	2	1	3	2	74
Gump Worsley	1		2	3	1	1	1		4		5	70
Rogie Vachon		2		1	4	2	1	2		1	5	70
Sergei Bobrovsky		1		2	3	1	2			1	8	55
Chuck Rayner		1		2	1		4	2		2	6	53
Marc-Andre Fleury		1	1	1		1	3	2	1		8	49
Alec Connell	1			1	1	1	2	2		2	8	44
Ed Giacomin								1	2	1	14	8

Top 4 going in which gets us to an even 35 (yay), another four added to the pool due to the last huge break in the aggregate coming up (yay). This week ended on a good note after looking pretty shaky on Wednesday!

Also - poor Eddie!

 

[jigglysquishy]

Wow. Everybody got a NR. Really surprised to see Connell get a first place vote.

 

[seventieslord]

When voting Giacomin 9th, I never considered for a moment that I may be giving him the second highest vote he would receive this round. Kind of surprised that just how bad this vote turned out for him.

Being high on Giacomin is quite unlike me...

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Vote 8
18/19 voters

Goalie	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th	9th	10th	NR	Total
Jonathan Quick	4	1	4			3		1		3	2	102
Percy LeSueur	3	2	2	1	1	3	1		2	1	2	101
Tom Barrasso	3	2		2	2		2	1	3	1	2	92
Rogie Vachon	2	2	2		3	2	1		3		3	92
Sergei Bobrovsky		1	1	4	4	2	1		2		3	87
Gump Worsley	3	1	1		3		2	4			4	85
Chuck Rayner		2	3	2	1	2		2		2	4	80
Pekka Rinne	1		3	2		3	1	1		2	5	72
Alec Connell		3		1	1	3	2	1	2		5	70
Marc-Andre Fleury		2	2	1			4	2			7	63
Mike Liut		2		1	1		1	2	2	2	7	47
Dave Kerr				3	1		2	2	1		9	43
Tuukka Rask	1			1	1			1		6	8	32
Ed Giacomin	1						1	1	3	1	11	24

This is the first week where there isn't a big break in voting results to give us an easy place to cut it off. Five points between 4th and 5th, as well as between 6th and 7th, isn't very much. Since we're adding six this week from the aggregate no matter what, we're going to keep it simple and just add the top six here.

Barrasso gets the tiebreak over Rogie. They were tied for finishing ahead on more ballots at 9-9, but Barrasso received more 1st place votes as well as fewer NRs, so that's my tiebreak here. They are functionally tied.

 

[jigglysquishy]

Rinne, Rask, and Giacomin all getting #1 votes. Did anyone even say anything particularly positive about them in the discussion?

Everyone getting a NR. A very big spread on views.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Yeah, that Giacomin vote is really somethin'...

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Glad to see Gump and Rogie get in.

 

[bobholly39]

Rinne, Rask, and Giacomin all getting #1 votes. Did anyone even say anything particularly positive about them in the discussion?

Everyone getting a NR. A very big spread on views.

Only 'surprising' vote from me based on results is that I gave MAF a #2 vote. But I explained the previous round why I thought his case was quite compelling.

I agree with your logic - when voters have opinions that seem to differ strongly from others, it would be a lot more valuable if they tried and made a case for said player.

 

[VanIslander]

I had neither Rinne nor Rask top 3 but they were both ranked and well respected for countless great performances, Rinne with less goal support than Rask, but both impressing continually.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Vote 9
16/19 voters

Goalie	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th	9th	10th	NR	Total
Paddy Moran	8		1			2	2	1			2	109
Chuck Rayner	2	3	2	1	3	1		1	1	1	1	99
Pekka Rinne	1	3		3	2	2	2	1	2			95
Alec Connell	1	3	3	2	1	2		1		1	2	95
Mike Liut	1	3		2	3	1	1	1	1	1	2	85
Dave Kerr			1	1	3	1	5	2	1		2	66
Marc-Andre Fleury	2	1	1	2	1	1			1	4	3	63
Igor Shesterkin	1		1	3	1	1		2		1	6	57
John Ross Roach		1	1	1		1	3	2	1	3	3	52
Ed Giacomin			3	1		2	1	1		1	7	49
Mike Richter		1	1		1	1		1	5	1	5	42
Tuukka Rask		1	1			1	1	2	1	2	7	36
Lorne Chabot			1		1		1	1	2		10	25
Gerry Cheevers									1	1	14	3

Top five going in this round. Old Paddy goes through on the first try with a whopping 8 first place votes. I'm giving Rinne the tiebreak over Connell - evenly split on who was ahead on more ballots, both had a single first place vote, but Rinne was the only goalie not to receive an NR, his lowest position being 9th. Like Barrasso and Vachon last round, they are functionally tied.

Cheevers with a tough showing. I wonder if we'll get anybody with a clean 0 across the board in the last few votes?

 

[MXD]

Vote 9
16/19 voters

Goalie	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th	9th	10th	NR	Total
Paddy Moran	8		1			2	2	1			2	109
Chuck Rayner	2	3	2	1	3	1		1	1	1	1	99
Pekka Rinne	1	3		3	2	2	2	1	2			95
Alec Connell	1	3	3	2	1	2		1		1	2	95
Mike Liut	1	3		2	3	1	1	1	1	1	2	85
Dave Kerr			1	1	3	1	5	2	1		2	66
Marc-Andre Fleury	2	1	1	2	1	1			1	4	3	63
Igor Shesterkin	1		1	3	1	1		2		1	6	57
John Ross Roach		1	1	1		1	3	2	1	3	3	52
Ed Giacomin			3	1		2	1	1		1	7	49
Mike Richter		1	1		1	1		1	5	1	5	42
Tuukka Rask		1	1			1	1	2	1	2	7	36
Lorne Chabot			1		1		1	1	2		10	25
Gerry Cheevers									1	1	14	3

Top five going in this round. Old Paddy goes through on the first try with a whopping 8 first place votes. I'm giving Rinne the tiebreak over Connell - evenly split on who was ahead on more ballots, both had a single first place vote, but Rinne was the only goalie not to receive an NR, his lowest position being 9th. Like Barrasso and Vachon last round, they are functionally tied.

Cheevers with a tough showing. I wonder if we'll get anybody with a clean 0 across the board in the last few votes?

Not that it REALLY matters, but is this how things are normally settled? I would've thought Connell ahead on "countback" (first and second equals, third advantages Connell)

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Not that it REALLY matters, but is this how things are normally settled? I would've thought Connell ahead on "countback" (first and second equals, third advantages Connell)

I suppose if people prefer this way, I can reorder them when I edit the main thread. I don't know if any method is better than the other, I just figured that there being more consensus on Rinne was the higher priority for tiebreaks. That was the standard I used for Barrasso over Vachon, as Barrasso had fewer NRs.

 

[MXD]

I suppose if people prefer this way, I can reorder them when I edit the main thread. I don't know if any method is better than the other, I just figured that there being more consensus on Rinne was the higher priority for tiebreaks. That was the standard I used for Barrasso over Vachon, as Barrasso had fewer NRs.

Oh, fair enough then. I was asking because it looks like a traditional countback was used with Barrasso/Vachon too, as Barrasso also has more 1sts than Vachon, meaning there was no need to look at 2nds and 3rds (which was the case with Connell and Rinne).

 

[jigglysquishy]

I'm happy Moran got in first. He stood out in comparison to peers pretty badly.

Everyone ranked Rinne. Probably the last time that will happen.

 

[VanIslander]

I'm happy Moran got in first. He stood out in comparison to peers pretty badly.

Everyone ranked Rinne. Probably the last time that will happen.

Moran went later than should have, indeed.

Rinne usually overlooked. Gladly everyone voted him, and not a single 10th place vote, unlike poorly underrated M-A Fleury who got 4 votes in 10th place this deep into the project.