HOH Top 40 Goaltenders of All Time

[Dennis Bonvie]

Don Cherrys top 40 obviously.

I'd enjoy seeing that, also.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I definitely think there is a lot more to be learned from the discussions than from the final list itself.

 

[overpass]

Also, no list based on 27 peoples opinions is ever legit, it's fun, and somewhat interesting, but far from legit, if by legit we're talking having any value.

Is 27 too few or too many to be legit?

 

[mrhockey193195]

Just wanted to say great work guys! I'm a little bummed that Richter didn't sneak his way into the top forty, but I can't argue with the effort that you guys put into this.

 

[Pominville Knows]

Just wanted to say great work guys! I'm a little bummed that Richter didn't sneak his way into the top forty, but I can't argue with the effort that you guys put into this.

He was a great clutch performer no doubt. Real important during a historical Cup run and a World Cup.

 

[mrhockey193195]

He was a great clutch performer no doubt. Real important during a historical Cup run and a World Cup.

Sorry, I'm on my phone and can't easily check the voting records...how did Mike do generally amongst the voters (curious to see how he placed compared to guys like Vernon, Osgood, and Kolzig)? If the list was extended to 50, would he get in?

 

[unknown33]

Sorry, I'm on my phone and can't easily check the voting records...how did Mike do generally amongst the voters (curious to see how he placed compared to guys like Vernon, Osgood, and Kolzig)? If the list was extended to 50, would he get in?

Round 1 voting

41 Dave Kerr 27 488 42.9
42 Mike Liut 26 483 42.4 +2
43 Vladimir Dzurilla 25 481 41.8
44 Henrik Lundqvist 22 468 39.7 +6
45 Al Rollins 25 419 44.2
46 Mike Richter 25 414 44.4
47 Miikka Kiprusoff 23 365 45.1
48 Mike Vernon 19 293 45.6
49 Riley Hern 20 289 46.6
50 John Ross Roach 22 263 49
51 Ron Hextall 17 252 46.2
52 Paddy Moran 18 223 48.6
53 Roger Crozier 17 217 48.2
54 Jiri Kralik 19 216 49.6
55 Chris Osgood 14 178 48.3
56 Normie Smith 15 178 49.1
57 John Bouse Hutton 14 165 49.2
58 Seth Martin 12 163 47.4
59 Pekka Lindmark 15 150 51
60 Chico Resch 13 134 50.7
61 Olaf Kolzig 19 133 54

 

[mrhockey193195]

Thanks. Real interesting stuff, reading the discussions in the voting threads is a ton of fun...the work you guys put into these projects is definitely appreciated!

 

[Cadienhomme]

This is the final list of the top goaltenders from all of hockey history, as determined by the History of Hockey community at HFBoards:

NOTE: Please report any errors via PM to TheDevilMadeMe

Top Goaltenders of All-Time

Rank | Player | Height | Weight | Born | Died | Career | Nationality
1| Patrick Roy |6'1"|210|1965||1985-2003|Canada
2| Dominik Hašek |6'1"|165|1965||1980-2011|Czech
3| Jacques Plante |6'0"|175|1929|1986|1952-1975|Canada
4| Glenn Hall |5'11"|190|1931||1951-1971|Canada
5| Terry Sawchuk |5'11"|190|1929|1970|1949-1970|Canada
6| Martin Brodeur |6'2"|216|1972||1991-present|Canada
7| Ken Dryden |6'4"|207|1947||1970-1979|Canada
8| Vladislav Tretiak |6'0"|200|1952||1968-1984|Russia
9| Frank Brimsek |5'9"|170|1913|1998|1938-1950|USA
10| Georges Vézina |5'6"|185|1887|1926|1910-1925|Canada
11| Charlie Gardiner |6'0|176|1904|1934|1927-1934|Canada
12| Clint Benedict |5'11"|185|1892|1976|1912-1931|Canada
13| Walter "Turk" Broda |5'9"|165|1914|1972|1935-1951|Canada
14| Bill Durnan |6'0"|190|1916|1972|1944-1950|Canada
15| Ed Belfour |6'0|215|1965||1989-2008|Canada
16| Tony Esposito |5'11"|185|1943||1967-1984|Canada
17| Bernie Parent |5'10"|170|1945||1965-1979|Canada
18| Roy Worters |5'3"|135|1900|1957|1925-1937|Canada
19| Johnny Bower |5'9|170|1924||1945-1970|Canada
20| Jiří Holeček |5'11"|163|1944||1964-1981|Czech
21| Cecil "Tiny" Thompson |5'10"|160|1903|1981|1928-1941|Canada
22| George Hainsworth |5'6"|150|1895|1950|1923-1937|Canada
23| Billy Smith |5'10'|185|1950||1971-1989|Canada
24| Hugh Lehman |5'8"|168|1885|1961|1908-1928|Canada
25| Grant Fuhr |5'10"|201|1962||1981-2000|Canada
26| Lorne "Gump" Worsley |5'7"|180|1929|2007|1952-1974|Canada
27| Harry Lumley |6'0"|195|1926|1998|1943-1960|Canada
28| Chuck Rayner |5'11"|190|1920|2002|1940-1953|Canada
29| Tom Barrasso |6'3"|210|1965||1983-2003|USA
30| Harry "Hap" Holmes |5'10"|170|1892|1941|1912-1928|Canada
31| Curtis Joseph |5'10"|182|1967||1989-2009|Canada
32| Eddie Giacomin |5'11"|180|1939|2002|1965-1978|Canada
33| Rogie Vachon |5'7"|170|1945||1967-1982|Canada
34| John Vanbiesbrouck |5'8"|175|1963||1981-2002|USA
35| Percy LeSueur |5'7"|150|1881|1962|1905-1916|Canada
36| Roberto Luongo |6'3"|180|1979||1998-present|Canada
37| Tim Thomas |5'11"|201|1974||2003-2012|USA
38| Henrik Lundqvist |6'1"|195|1982||2005-present|Sweden
39| Alec Connell |5'9"|150|1902|1958|1924-1937|Canada
40| Mike Liut |6'2"|195|1956||1977-1992|Canada

Links to all the discussion threads that went into making this list:
Round 2 Voting Results
Round 2, Vote 1 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 2 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 3 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 4 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 5 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 6 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 7 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 8 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 9 Discussion
Round 2, Vote 10 Discussion

Links to the preliminary discussion threads before voters submitted their lists:
Rules Discussion Thread
Goalies Before 1950 Research Thread
Final Preliminary Discussion Thread

Links that explain the creation of the aggregate list that formed the basis of discussion. This data was released at the end of the project:
Round 1 Voting Results (Aggregate List)
Round 1 Screening Process
Participants Survey (filled out at the end of the project)

Listed here are the individual voting records of all participants:
Bring Back Scuderi
Canadiens1958
ContrarianGoaltender
DaveG
Dennis Bonvie
Dreakmur
Hawkey Town 18
foame
intylerwetrust
Jagorim Jarg
Johnny Engine
MadArcand
Mike Farkas
MXD
Nalyd Psycho
pappyline
quoipourquoi
reckoning
seventieslord
steve141
Sturminator
Taco MacArthur
tarheelhockey
TheDevilMadeMe
tony d
VanIslander
vecens24

i admire the list but someone information is off or just playing favs. Plante should be second. Sawchuk third, Brodeur, then Hašek

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

i admire the list but someone information is off or just playing favs. Plante should be second. Sawchuk third, Brodeur, then Hašek

Clearly.

Don't know how we missed that.

 

[Cadienhomme]

Well, you didn't bother arguing when everyone else was putting together well-reasoned and sound arguments. And you probably haven't read those well-reasoned and sound arguments, either.

So I wouldn't expect that you'd bother at this point.

Seriously - we worked our ***** off for this. Don't come in here and piss all over it with flippant remarks.

People playing favs instead of looking at the numbers but that fine ur choice on the list

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

People playing favs instead of looking at the numbers but that fine ur choice on the list

Clearly, everyone who doesn't agree with your exact order is just playing favorites.

 

[dzd ncnfzd]

I am afraid I have to disagree with you.

Tretiak has played loads of great games against world's most talented teams and has been terrific and dominant in most of them.

Yep, the only beef I have with the list is having Tretriak below Dryden - and I'm an "old" Montreal fan. That New Years game said it all....

Dryden was a great Goalie, perfect for that team (could stay sharp when seeing few shots - not an easy thing for most goalies) but Tretriak outplayed him.

Plante was a pioneer, hard to compare between generations as we all know...

 

[Doctor No]

Yep, the only beef I have with the list is having Tretriak below Dryden - and I'm an "old" Montreal fan. That New Years game said it all....

Dryden was a great Goalie, perfect for that team (could stay sharp when seeing few shots - not an easy thing for most goalies) but Tretriak outplayed him.

That was one game (an exhibition game, no less).

 

[Hardyvan123]

Yep, the only beef I have with the list is having Tretriak below Dryden - and I'm an "old" Montreal fan. That New Years game said it all....

Dryden was a great Goalie, perfect for that team (could stay sharp when seeing few shots - not an easy thing for most goalies) but Tretriak outplayed him.

Plante was a pioneer, hard to compare between generations as we all know...

That was one game (an exhibition game, no less).

This is my thought as well.

It's all fine and dandy if one wants to rank anyone over Dryden but they should really make a better case than a single game.

 

[Cotton]

Where is Alex Connell? no way he's not a top 40.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Where is Alex Connell? no way he's not a top 40.

39th

 

[seventieslord]

Where is Alex Connell? no way he's not a top 40.

Wish you had participated so that someone could have explained why he belongs.

 

[Theokritos]

Where is Alex Connell? no way he's not a top 40.

39th

Wish you had participated so that someone could have explained why he belongs.

Someone must have done that already... see #39.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Connell was perhaps the goalie in most need of an advocate. I'm still not clear on what specifically made him a great goalie, other than putting up great numbers.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Connell was perhaps the goalie in most need of an advocate. I'm still not clear on what specifically made him a great goalie, other than putting up great numbers.

I went in thinking I would be his advocate. Did a lot of game to game research on him...came away thinking he didn't belong. Seems very likely that he was the Osgood of his era. I'm not sold that John Ross Roach wasn't better or at least on par. Adding Connell was largely a stat grab, unfortunately.

Maybe related, maybe not, third straight year the save pct. record* has been broken...who woulda thunk it...

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I went in thinking I would be his advocate. Did a lot of game to game research on him...came away thinking he didn't belong. Seems very likely that he was the Osgood of his era. I'm not sold that John Ross Roach wasn't better or at least on par. Adding Connell was largely a stat grab, unfortunately.

Maybe related, maybe not, third straight year the save pct. record* has been broken...who woulda thunk it...

Not that its relevant, but Anderson only played 24 games this year and Elliott also played less than half his team's games the year before (38).

 

[quoipourquoi]

Hey, the next time I say something like Lundqvist isn't a top-40 goaltender, can one of you just punch me in the jaw?

 

[Plural]

i admire the list but someone information is off or just playing favs. Plante should be second. Sawchuk third, Brodeur, then Hašek

Great insight. I guess guys should change the list accordingly.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Hey, the next time I say something like Lundqvist isn't a top-40 goaltender, can one of you just punch me in the jaw?

Yeah, he's not bad. Combine this playoffs (to date) and last: 1.78 GAA, .936 save pct. and 5 shutouts in 27 games. But he's only 14-13 over that stretch. Score a goal for this man...