Rumor: Hoglander “ Get The Trade Watch Going” - Dhaliwal

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Hoglander, 1st, 2nd has to be getting into the Andersson, Byram tier no?

Winger and a late first and 2nd isn't getting that sorry. I'd assume at the bare minimum a young #4 Dman has to go back.

 

[ayoshi]

Hoglander for N. Robertson who says no?

 

[biturbo19]

Hoglander for N. Robertson who says no?

The Canucks, easily. What on earth would they want with a useless waiver fodder Nick Robertson?

 

[CanMerc]

With the cap expected to be going up each of the next few years, 3x3 for Hoglander isn’t that big a deal…I can see GMs taking a swing on him, hoping he can repeat his totals from last year.
Now, will they be willing to pay high for him…unlikely

 

[KrisLeturnover]

Guys Ryan Graves isn’t actually that bad. Graves+ is actually a really solid haul, I swear.

 

[Peter Griffin]

devils desperately need forward depth (especially young, cost controlled forward depth) and they are inordinately rich with d prospects. The problem is, none of the devils d prospects are similar in value. Casey, Nemec and Saliyev are all worth way more than Hoglander, but nobody else in the system is worth nearly enough.

We’ll take that Kovacevic guy off your hands.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I see no reason for Hawks to waste a retention slot as 3rd party in trade just for a 5th round pick

Hawks have

2 1sts
2 2nds
2 4ths
6th
7th

In this years draft

They have no need to add a 5th round pick

If you want Hawks to retain that would require giving Hawks something of actual value

Or you could go look at what teams actually get for using a retention slot, which is about a 5th round pick.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Hoglander had 24 even strength goals last year? I’d that a real question?

Yeah but there's more to hockey than just goals. Both guys have been roughly 0.5 PPG players in their normal seasons (27 in 56 and 36 in 80 for Hoglander, 32 in 76 and 38 in 72 in the last 2 years combined for Tomasino) and both guys were viewed as fairly high upside.

Tomasino's value was lower because Nashville dunked his value, but I really struggle to see Hoglander's value being much higher right now. Tomasino brought back a 2027 4th, I'd bet that Hoglander's value is like a 2025 3rd. It's better but not substantially.

 

[Nucker42]

Yeah but there's more to hockey than just goals. Both guys have been roughly 0.5 PPG players in their normal seasons (27 in 56 and 36 in 80 for Hoglander, 32 in 76 and 38 in 72 in the last 2 years combined for Tomasino) and both guys were viewed as fairly high upside.

Tomasino's value was lower because Nashville dunked his value, but I really struggle to see Hoglander's value being much higher right now. Tomasino brought back a 2027 4th, I'd bet that Hoglander's value is like a 2025 3rd. It's better but not substantially.

Yeah I've never really agreed with the aggregate scoring like that. Much harder to do over the course of an entire season vs over two shortened seasons. If you ask any Canuck fan, Hollander was excellent last year.

I'm not sitting here saying teams are going to pay a 1st for Hollander by any means. But I do think he will get more than a 3rd or more likely be a part of a bigger package. Usually fodder type players who might only get a 4th back aren't going to generate several insider reports about teams being interested.

Friedman, Weekes and Dhaliwal have all reported several teams are interested. I actually likely Tomasino and I think he might do really well in Pitt I just see their values differently.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Yeah but there's more to hockey than just goals. Both guys have been roughly 0.5 PPG players in their normal seasons (27 in 56 and 36 in 80 for Hoglander, 32 in 76 and 38 in 72 in the last 2 years combined for Tomasino) and both guys were viewed as fairly high upside.

Tomasino's value was lower because Nashville dunked his value, but I really struggle to see Hoglander's value being much higher right now. Tomasino brought back a 2027 4th, I'd bet that Hoglander's value is like a 2025 3rd. It's better but not substantially.

If Hoglander only returns a 3rd, there’s no point trading him right now unless there’s another deal lined up where they can flip that pick for someone else.

 

[Empoleon8771]

If Hoglander only returns a 3rd, there’s no point trading him right now unless there’s another deal lined up where they can flip that pick for someone else.

The point of trading him is preventing him from getting even lower value and dipping into negative value territory because of how he's being used.

If this kind of play and usage from Hoglander continues, Vancouver is going to be either buying him out or paying for someone to take him once his 3x3 deal kicks in.

 

[Peter Griffin]

The point of trading him is preventing him from getting even lower value and dipping into negative value territory because of how he's being used.

If this kind of play and usage from Hoglander continues, Vancouver is going to be either buying him out or paying for someone to take him once his 3x3 deal kicks in.

His buyout is basically nothing, $500k over 6 years. I’d rather take the chance of him turning things around under Tocchet over the next 30-40 games than to just dump him for a 3rd at this point personally.

 

[dirtydanglez]

hurry up

 

[Johnsie19]

I can't speak for Flames fans, but it makes no sense for Sabres to make a deal like that.

what kind of deal would make sense?

Winger and a late first and 2nd isn't getting that sorry. I'd assume at the bare minimum a young #4 Dman has to go back.

Desjarnais or Forbert?

 

[Fjordy]

what kind of deal would make sense?

With the Canucks for Byram? Honestly, I don't see many options, we just don't need Hoglander, we have a lot of forwards, but Byram plays an important role for us in the first pair.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Hoglander to the Pens is a Deliverance rewrite...

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Very big buy low potential here, Hoglander has all the talent needed to be successful, but his play away with the puck is lacking.

Hw lost the trust of Tochett, but should still get a good player in return

Think like Viktor Arvidsson. That's his upside. Don't expect too much and you'll love him.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Two words: Ben Chiarot

 

[UrbanImpact]

hurry up

Canucks finishing up a 6 game roady tonight in Minny.

I have a strong suspicion this is Hoglander's last or 2nd to last game in a Canucks uniform.


Here's one that might be a win win for both teams... Seattle/Van

Nils Hoglander and Will Borgen as the main piece. Small add from Seattle imo to make it work for both sides.

Seattle is desperately needing to inject offence in their system. Burakovsky i believe is a healthy scratch tonight and has 1 goal in 25 games. Bjorkstrand has been in the doghouse as well. Hoglander will be able to step into that top 6/9 and create offence instantly.

Borgen is a solid solid RH. Can be a great partner for Q Hughes while Hronek is out for the next 2 months. At 6'3 He also fits the big bodies Dman prototype[e that Tochett likes. He would be an upgrade on Juulsen and Desharnais and maybe even Tyler Myers.

 

[kcunac]

Hoglander + one of Wallinder/Lekkerimaki for Rasmus Andersson

Counter: hogs + 1st. Rasmus only signed for 1 more year after this.

 

[IComeInPeace]

Desjarnais or Forbert?

Yes, seeing those 2 names would for sure make any GM jump for joy and beg to sign on the dotted line ASAP.

I think they should hold out for the carcass of Jet Woo’s potential NHL career too though.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

The Canucks, easily. What on earth would they want with a useless waiver fodder Nick Robertson?

No offense to him but I've seen hundreds of Nick Robertsons come through this league. 1% of them crack 400 games and that's probably generous.

 

[IComeInPeace]

Hoglander + one of Wallinder/Lekkerimaki for Rasmus Andersson

I’d jump at Hog and Wallinder…

…the problem is I’m not sure Detroit goes for that.

No chance I do Hog and Willander though.

I think Lekkerimaki and Hog is a fair ask and a fair trade for both sides.

It would obviously depend on how high both sides are on Lekkerimaki though.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I’d jump at Hog and Wallinder…

…the problem is I’m not sure Detroit goes for that.

No chance I do Hog and Willander though.

I think Lekkerimaki and Hog is a fair ask and a fair trade for both sides.

It would obviously depend on how high both sides are on Lekkerimaki though.

When did Detroit acquire Rasmus Andersson ?

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

Take Graves and a pick.

Pretty please

Graves and Petterson?

We’ll probably have to take salary back.