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Emperoreddy
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The way people started to act like he was bad to start 22-23 to justify his bad start this year is crazy. He was out of this world from the moment 22-23 started. He played incredible hockey. Drove play like crazy and created a f*** ton of chances. He played better hockey to start that year than he did last year. This year doesn’t even remotely compare
Because he scored. You can see on the breakdown the goal is driving most of the difference
Devils731
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I can’t speak to what he’s thinking but I think the prior thought about the spread nature is probably true.
Using the PP goal as a template of one way the PP can go. The moments sometimes have many seconds/different parts of the play so it’s not linear.
PP default “settle” position is Bratt with the puck and Hughes as far out of the play as possible to give him maximum space. Hughes also can read the ice the most.
I think if teams kept a guy closer to Hughes then they likely create a triangle of shooting between Bratt, Hamilton, and the bumper.
Hughes has the puck with lots of space. This lets him start skating downhill and read if he can go inside or if he must go outside.
When Hughes goes outside then he may get a shooting look but if not then he travels the whole outside of the rink. This will cause the defenders shape to deform and Hughes will have possible passing opportunities before the net, after the net, in the corner, at the half board, or he can just continue skating.
The team generally appears to collapse down low when Hughes goes around in an attempt to find passing lanes and to try and keep defenders from pressuring Hughes.
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So I don’t know what Han was thinking but for today the Devils PP featured skating and distance from the goal as how to create good looks and those aren’t usually how you try to create PP looks.
Definitely not remembering his start to 22/23 correctly. He was visibly rusty to start that year. The stats also back that up.
xGF% Team Ranking per game via Natural Stat Trick
2022-2023
Game 1: 12th (13th 5 v 5)
Game 2: 3rd (8th 5 v 5)
Game 3: 7th (10th 5 v 5)
Game 4: 6th (9th 5 v 5)
Game 5: 6th (3rd 5 v 5)
Game 6: 13th (17th 5 v 5) !!
1 goal, 2 assists, -2
2024-2025
Game 1: 6th (7th 5 v 5)
Game 2: 10th (6th 5 v 5)
Game 3: 1st (5th 5 v 5)
Game 4: 7th (6th 5 v 5)
Game 5: 2nd (6th 5 v 5)
0 goals, 3 assists, +3
It can be argued that had had a better start this season than 22/23
Its all semantics. Jack is an incredible player and he will get going as he always has. Way too many posters get on way too many players cases too early every season. I just never understood that.
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njdevils1982
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so nice to comeback here after missing the 2nd and 3rd to play golf and see the team shut them out....
yotes gonna yote
yotes gonna yote
Emperoreddy
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Reminder we lost twice to this team last year. The sadder version of them
Just take him off the ice after the faceoff, it's not rocket science.
Cotter?
Captain3rdLine
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Why in the world would we do this? He’s one of our best pp players.
It also takes away your man advantage away for a bit
Richer's Ghost
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SJinNewJersey
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You can take the team out of Arizona, but you can't take Arizona out of the team.
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Yeah imma yoink that as my avy for the moment.
I'm saying if that was the only reason. You don't keep a player just for their faceoff skill. That's just stupid.
Captain3rdLine
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Not as stupid as Jack Hughes continuing to take faceoffs like we couldn’t try Meier or Bratt on the draws. Feel like either of them could do better.
He definitely showed way more flashes of “vintage” Hughes this game than any other game this season. He’s still shaking off the rust, but this game was a good sign IMO
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Billdo
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JK3
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We only had one shut out all of last season and it was at the end of March.
Pretty wild we are pretty much missing our 2nd pair at the moment.
I am hoping that Nemec can continue to build off this game and find a way to get into the top 6 ahead of Kovacevic. Nemec should be the better puck mover.
I am hoping that Nemec can continue to build off this game and find a way to get into the top 6 ahead of Kovacevic. Nemec should be the better puck mover.
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That unit needed a net front presence. They aren’t shooting well enough, or even playmaking well enough, to get by without it.
Meier wasn’t that in San Jose, Hertl was.
So someone had to go to get Noesen in there.
Coaches like having someone winning face-offs so Nico gets to stay.
So it’s Bratt or Meier.
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We've allowed 1 or fewer goals in 3 of 5 games. That happened a total of 10 times in 82 games last season....
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Coaching matters!
