Hockey Cards - Part III

[Muffin]

Man when did Platinum become $250 CAD a box?

 

[varsaku]

I’m guessing it’s coming out of the box at no less than $400

It is going to be so overproduced that they will come down like a year later.

 

[Rorschach]

What's you guys prediction on Connor Bedard's Young Gun going for? 200$ USD?

I’m guessing at least $300+. Lafrieniere got $250 and he wasn’t near the hype of Bedard. I think NYR market and CHI market are p comparable.

 

[budaj guy]

It is going to be so overproduced that they will come down like a year later.

Wasn’t the McDavid year very high production as well? If Bedard lives up to the hype his YG may climb from the initial starting point, which will be no less than $400

 

[Daley Tarasenkshow]

Man when did Platinum become $250 CAD a box?

Different configuration this year, with less packs, more cards per pack, and more numbered per box. Similar to the change to SPA this year.

 

[hockeykid87]

What's you guys prediction on Connor Bedard's Young Gun going for? 200$ USD?

I think it will come out of the gate at $400+ honestly. Especially if he gets off to a strong first half before Series 2 comes out.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

What's you guys prediction on Connor Bedard's Young Gun going for? 200$ USD?

500 easy at jump.

But.....I want to point out there's 10k Connor McDavid young guns, 7k at bgs 9.5 and around 2.5k at psa 10, in high grade. And that was before a pandemic, sport card "investors", hobby "gem rate" derpy apps, and social media influencers promoting pump and dumps weekly.

Trae Young prizm rookies were once at 300 bucks in psa 10. There's over 12k of them in that condition. That's a 20 dollar card and if your paying more then that you are a fool.

Upper deck is going to print that shit for the next two years if not three. They will print that shit until people stop ordering it and even then will print more of it just in case.

Bedards YG is going to be a huge card, but I wouldn't invest in anything of his without a serial number on it. Every idiot on WhatNot is going to be breaking cases of it, pulling them, and not sending them to winners but to psa instead.

The money is going to be in the cheaper stuff. OPC, platinum, the cheaper brands.

 

[Cancuks]

McDavid's Young Gun was going for $200 USD in 2015, Kucherov's $14, and Draisaitl's about the same. Some day I'll pull up screenshots that I took of all these prices. I was flipping cards back then. Still mad that I didn't hold onto them longer.

At one time I owned the world's greatest Shea Theodore rookie collection. Here are a few of the cards I had.

 

[zeppelin1651]

Couple of cards up for auction

Connor McDavid Skybox Metal Precious Metal Gems 1/1

Alex Ovechkin Skybox Metal Precious Metal Gems Red /100

 

[Sensatauro]

Sp I used to be a large collector back in the day. But its been a decade plus since I bought cards. What are the quality card brands these days. If one was to buy a case or two what brings best bang for your buck.

The cards look pretty sharp these days and I like to try and grab me a couple of the rookies this year like many.

 

[ViD]

All you Young Guns lovers, Michkov is getting the cards prepared

 

[kaiser matias]

All you Young Guns lovers, Michkov is getting the cards prepared

Curious how the players go about that: rookies are signing literally thousands of cards, and while it is spread out over the year, do they sit down and do it all when the packages arrive, or do they sign a few at a time here and there, or what?

 

[ViD]

Curious how the players go about that: rookies are signing literally thousands of cards, and while it is spread out over the year, do they sit down and do it all when the packages arrive, or do they sign a few at a time here and there, or what?

Are they getting paid for doing it though ? They’re currently under no contract with NHLPA or other org

 

[BostonBob]

ESPN looks at the world of box breaks.

Is it gambling? Is it just good fun? Both? Either way, breaking open boxes of sports cards on camera now rules the memorabilia industry.




How box breaks took over the memorabilia industry

 

[BWJM]

Couple of my favourite.

 

[Byfield]

Why are Pasta YG’s in high grade so limited compared to other top guys?

 

[miscs75]

Why are Pasta YG’s in high grade so limited compared to other top guys?

Probably due to scarcity. Most likely not many graded.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

ESPN looks at the world of box breaks.

Is it gambling? Is it just good fun? Both? Either way, breaking open boxes of sports cards on camera now rules the memorabilia industry.




How box breaks took over the memorabilia industry

And Breakers are now getting shut down/strict limitations by Fanatics.

This article did more damage to breakers then the shady guys actually breaking, and there's alot of them out there.

The idiot bragging about making 20 million dollars obviously had no clue saying something like that wouldn't turn a few heads in the government. Anything to get that internet clout even if it means going to jail.

In what, the last few weeks there's been some underhanded crap with the best being the guy with the 1500 bounty for a pokemon card, pulls it live, then magically replaces it with a different card when everyone saw the rare card.

Breaks weren't going to last without regulations. Gambling is regulated, and anybody who didn't think the government wasn't going to look for their cut of the proceeds is foolish. There's alot of scumbags out there who took money from unsuspecting collectors AND took the cards and pretty much ruined it for the legit breakers.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

ESPN looks at the world of box breaks.

Is it gambling? Is it just good fun? Both? Either way, breaking open boxes of sports cards on camera now rules the memorabilia industry.




How box breaks took over the memorabilia industry

And Breakers are now getting shut down/strict limitations by Fanatics.

This article did more damage to breakers then the shady guys actually breaking, and there's alot of them out there.

The idiot bragging about making 20 million dollars obviously had no clue saying something like that wouldn't turn a few heads in the government.

Why are Pasta YG’s in high grade so limited compared to other top guys?

Good question.

I think alot has to do with Pasta not being a hobby darling until the pandemic and then the prices of boxes exploded to the point of not worth gambling on.

There's 400 graded on psa with 127 I think being 10's. At 127 psa 10's, that card is under valued for whatever it's selling for.

There's alot of unopened 2014. If those numbers don't change a Pasta 10 blows up to a 5k card if he ever won a cup.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

Curious how the players go about that: rookies are signing literally thousands of cards, and while it is spread out over the year, do they sit down and do it all when the packages arrive, or do they sign a few at a time here and there, or what?

This is weird considering I just saw a video on this.

Natilie Decker made a video where she gets the cards shipped to her and it's for every set she's in.

Of course there's the "omgz look at all these cards" overlay. But I didn't see an actual rep from Panini anywhere in the video.

There could have been, tho. I was looking at her ass......

 

[Satan]

Why are Pasta YG’s in high grade so limited compared to other top guys?

Three reasons:

1. I think across the board, Upper Deck printed less cards in their 2014-15 runs. There was a peak in 2013-14 thanks to the "Double Rookie Class" but the 2014-15 class didn't have a lot going for it during that season and was seen as being a weak rookie crop at the time.

2. I also think a rule of thumb is that UDS2 is printed less than UDS1. Pastrnak was in UDS2.. so double whammy.

3. People eventually recognized there was value in 14-15 UDS2 yg crop (Pastrnak, Vasilevskiy, Horvat)- and that increased the price of wax... and now less is being opened/available because it's either locked away or priced too high for people to have an appetite to gamble. I did a quick look on ebay/the usual wax sites to see if any hobby boxes were available for purchase and couldnt find any results.

 

[Cubs2024wildcard]

There's nothing limited about an upper deck print run.....

 

[Green]

What are the odds a card like this is real, I picked this up at a show a few weeks ago, I am always skeptical of the game used stuff especially from really old players but it only cost like $30 and I figured it was worth it, I mean how can they verify this was actually a game used item from Jacques Plante and not some random old gear his relatives or someone sold to Leaf and said was his game used equipment

 

[BostonBob]

What are the odds a card like this is real, I picked this up at a show a few weeks ago, I am always skeptical of the game used stuff especially from really old players but it only cost like $30 and I figured it was worth it, I mean how can they verify this was actually a game used item from Jacques Plante and not some random old gear his relatives or someone sold to Leaf and said was his game used equipment

Well to be honest - there's no way to be absolutely sure that any current memorabilia cards are 100% authentic. But I guess we can trust the major card companies about stuff like this ????

 

[ElLeetch]

after watching a lot of OPC-Plat box openings, man, its amazing to see that basically ALL the parallels are horrible off-center. Like every card that might hold value. Even 1-of-1s are bad.

terrible QC for a 'high end' product.