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U18: Hlinka Gretzky Cup

Following this game by watching a liveblog on Hockey Canada's website, because TSN - Canada's sports leader - has the US - Germany game on its main network and the highlights of a match of a soccer tournament Canada has been eliminated from on TSN2.

Edit: My mistake, TSN2 is showing a reply of a football game.
 
That SHOULD be enough.

MeHateHe said:
Following this game by watching a liveblog on Hockey Canada's website, because TSN - Canada's sports leader - has the US - Germany game on its main network and the highlights of a match of a soccer tournament Canada has been eliminated from on TSN2.
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LOL. I love TSN but a lot of time, I have NO idea what they are doing.

Canada game is on TSN 5 - FYI.
 
Ouch. Heck of a slash.

Teams should have the option of a PP.

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I sure wish they had the shot totals.

How long until the Swiss pull the goalie?

MeHateHe said:
I have TSN and TSN2 at work and that's it.
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Fair enough. TBH, you're not missing much - minus this game which has been pretty good.

Canada up 5-0 and things are looking good.
 
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So what does USA need to have happen to advance now that they smoked Germany? If Sweden wins over Czech then three teams are 2-1 with a win and loss amongst to the others.

This is a weird tournament to be labeled "U18" when the summer timing of it such that anybody in the oldest birth year eligible born in the last 5 months of the year is still 16. So it's really like a U17.5
 
ORRFForever said:
Fair enough. TBH, you're not missing much - minus this game which has been pretty good.
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I get that this is a niche tournament in the middle of the summer, so I could see TSN relegating it to lower down in their priority list. But they're showing the US team play whack-a-mole with a weak German team instead of showing Canada's game in the same tournament? It's just a bizarre choice.
 
WarriorofTime said:
So what does USA need to have happen to advance now that they smoked Germany? If Sweden wins over Czech then three teams are 2-1 with a win and loss amongst to the others.
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Because the U.S. smoked Sweden, I am sure they will advance.

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Come on George. Hold on.
 
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MeHateHe said:
I get that this is a niche tournament in the middle of the summer, so I could see TSN relegating it to lower down in their priority list. But they're showing the US team play whack-a-mole with a weak German team instead of showing Canada's game in the same tournament? It's just a bizarre choice.
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TSN showing the USA game instead of the Canada game on their main network is a bit perplexing.
 
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WarriorofTime said:
TSN showing the USA game instead of the Canada game on their main network is a bit perplexing.
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Don't try to understand TSN. It's a waste of energy.

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I would have been happy with winning 3-0.

Thrilled with the 5-0 win.

So... Who do we play?
 
And just to insult the audience, TSN switched their main channel feed to the Canada-Swiss game with 80 seconds to go after the rout by the US over Germany was done. Who makes these decisions?

By the way, I saw a Skoda car in Canada a couple of weeks back. First time ever.
 
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I will feel awful for the Swiss if they win 2 games and get eliminated. Usually 2 wins is a ticket to semis.

I blame Finland for pissing off Canada lol
 
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MeHateHe said:
I get that this is a niche tournament in the middle of the summer, so I could see TSN relegating it to lower down in their priority list. But they're showing the US team play whack-a-mole with a weak German team instead of showing Canada's game in the same tournament? It's just a bizarre choice.
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They want to encourage people to buy all 5 channels - they punish you if you don't by putting the game on TSN 5.

Czechboy said:
I will feel awful for the Swiss if they win 2 games and get eliminated. Usually 2 wins is a ticket to semis.

I blame Finland for pissing off Canada lol
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LOL. I agree. 3 teams should advance.

Dominance said:
TSN was showing both.

Really great all-around performance from Canada. Catton is embracing being The Guy.
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Yes. Nice to see. We look... good.
 
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Big Czech Sweden game coming up... I think Sweden needs to beat us by 6. They've certainly done it before.

All 4 goals against us were bad breakdowns and the Swedes love those.

Majority of our goals have been of the pretty tic tac toe style... I can't see those working against them.

I think Sweden wins... Just not sure by how much. Imagine winning your first game by ten goals and possibly being eliminated?!
 
Czechboy said:
Big Czech Sweden game coming up... I think Sweden needs to beat us by 6. They've certainly done it before.

All 4 goals against us were bad breakdowns and the Swedes love those.

Majority of our goals have been of the pretty tic tac toe style... I can't see those working against them.

I think Sweden wins... Just not sure by how much. Imagine winning your first game by ten goals and possibly being eliminated?!
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Good luck, my friend.

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Sweden needed to keep it close against the U.S. To lose as badly as they did is a killer.
 
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Feel free to correct me if I am wrong - I can't remember the exact scores of games and there is no website out there that is completely caught up.

U.S. lost to Czechia by 5 but beat Sweden by 5 so the U.S. is +0.
Sweden is -5 vs Czechia is +5

It's hard to imagine the U.S. not advancing unless Sweden wins by exactly 5 and another tie breaker kicks in.
 
Czechboy said:
I will feel awful for the Swiss if they win 2 games and get eliminated. Usually 2 wins is a ticket to semis.

I blame Finland for pissing off Canada lol
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Was a good tournament. That's what counts. Lots of good things and if we play vs Canada the way we played vs Finland we may not lose by more than 2. Still, I'm fine with the tournament. We won twi games rather convincingly and lost vs Canada maybe a little bit higher than necessary. Sounds like a decent tournament for Swiss standards. Young
inexperienced coach who hopefully learned his lesson. Played the wrong goaltender and went into the game with the wrong mindset. Unlike in the first two games they didn't try to make plays until it was late. They tried not to allow more than 2 goals which is a faulty strategy vs Canada. That was never gonna work. Another lesson is that you shouldn't move your best and most experienced Center to the wing. Especially vs Canada Antenen would have been important to shut down the most dangerous Canadians and control the pace of the game down the middle. But better to get these experiments out of the way now than to do that sort of stuff at the WJC18. I expect smarter coaching decisions there or I'm gonna be upset. For now I'm not.

Of course the team could still make the semis but I'm not holding my breath. The Slovaks can score and I think they'll do so today but I don't think they're anywhere solid enough to compete with Finland for 60'.
 
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Hinterland said:
Was a good tournament. That's what counts. Lots of good things and if we play vs Canada the way we played vs Finland we probably don't lose by more than 2. Still, I'm fine with the tournament. Young
inexperienced coach who hopefully learned his lesson. Played the wrong goaltender and went into the game with the wrong mindset. Unlike in the first two games they didn't try to make plays until it was late. They tried not to allow more than 2 goals which is a faulty strategy vs Canada. That was never gonna work. Another lesson is that you shouldn't move your best and most experienced Center to the wing. Especially vs Canada Antenen would have been important to shut down the most dangerous Canadians and control the pace of the game down the middle. But better to get these experiments out of the way now than to do that sort of stuff at the WJC18. I expect smarter coaching decisions there or I'm gonna be upset. For now I'm not.

Of course the team could still make the semis but I'm not holding my breath. The Slovaks can score and I think they'll do so today but I don't think they're anywhere solid enough to compete with Finland for 60'.
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Very good post.
 
First, Canada won by 5 and finished first.

Second, Emily Compagno is wearing a black pant suit on Outnumbered and she looks beautiful.

Oh, what a day...

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WarriorofTime said:
So what does USA need to have happen to advance now that they smoked Germany? If Sweden wins over Czech then three teams are 2-1 with a win and loss amongst to the others.

This is a weird tournament to be labeled "U18" when the summer timing of it such that anybody in the oldest birth year eligible born in the last 5 months of the year is still 16. So it's really like a U17.5
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Unless Sweden wins by exactly 5, the U.S. will finish 2nd and play Canada in the Semis.

If Sweden wins by exactly 5, another tie breaker kicks in and I'm not sure what that tie breaker is.

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As for your 2nd paragraph, I agree, the age requirements are "odd".
 
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ORRFForever said:
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong - I can't remember the exact scores of games and there is no website out there that is completely caught up.

U.S. lost to Czechia by 5 but beat Sweden by 5 so the U.S. is +0.
Sweden is -5 vs Czechia is +5

It's hard to imagine the U.S. not advancing unless Sweden wins by exactly 5 and another tie breaker kicks in.
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I would think the next tiebreaker would be goals scored. That's the norm in IIHF competition. So if Sweden wins 8-3 or 9-4 (as opposed to 6-1) then Sweden and the Czechs would advance and the US is eliminated. If Sweden wins 6-1 or 5-0 then the Czechs and US would advance and Sweden is eliminated.
 
MeHateHe said:
I would think the next tiebreaker would be goals scored. That's the norm in IIHF competition. So if Sweden wins 8-3 or 9-4 (as opposed to 6-1) then Sweden and the Czechs would advance and the US is eliminated. If Sweden wins 6-1 or 5-0 then the Czechs and US would advance and Sweden is eliminated.
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Your math is better than mine. Good job. :thumbu:
 
No need to break out the math, doubtful Sweden wins the game so how much they would need to win by is inconsequential.
 
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