Post-Game Talk: Hit em with the 4 like AM34. Leafs lose 4th straight game 7 to Boston: 2-1

[JKG33]

I am not blaming it on the depth, I am questioning why we went out and ignored scoring depth/D when we've had this issue every year.

If we knew that the core was coming back, why would we focus on "toughness" (which didn't matter in this series).



We got worse this year, just FYI.

Can't add depth when half the cap space is used on 4 players

 

[PromisedLand]

Like this is a big problem and they need heads to roll for this one way or another. I guess Keefe will take the majority of the heat here, but man... the players are just cursed.

ShanaCON and Dubas' stench will not be undone this easily. Have to wait out till both tavares and marner are off the cap to make this team.

We got 2 summers of patient and focused RETOOLING to be done. No other way! Period!

 

[notbias]

Can't add depth when half the cap space is used on 4 players

They had 20 million in cap space in the offseason, if you can't bring in some depth scoring for that, you shouldn't be a GM.

 

[GoonieFace]

I am not disagreeing that they were bad.

But the guys that were brought in this year (minus Domi and Lub) were not good or the answer either.

I have no clue how "snot" is the answer for scoring issues, but we can double down next year if people want.



We got no depth scoring either. I agree with you, but it isn't 100% on them.

And it’s hard to acquire consistent scoring with little cap space. Need upgrades on D as well. With Knies and McMann, there is some internal promise.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

The reality of our D is that we are never going to have a Josi or Hedman level player just fall in our laps. Slim chances we get one. But we need a Hronek type dman to come in an be a top pairing guy like Vancouver or we are never going to be successful for a long playoffs run. We need an in their prime horse back there to make a difference. Like Muzzin only he wasnt enough to be successful either.

It's not easy to upgrade these days.

 

[PromisedLand]

If we give it to him, I will honestly have to reconsider my relationship with this franchise. I know they don't care... but that would be so wrong I'm not sure I could ever get behind it.

I am with you on that. If marner is re-signed I am done being a Leafs fan. I cannot support LOSERS. Life is short for me to get emotionally involved and financially support losers who whine and never take any responsibility

 

[Gallagbi]

At the end of the day, you can probably do better than Holmberg and Jarnkrok on your 3rd line. Absolutely useless and provide no spark on the offensive end.

I said it earlier, but it felt like two 4th lines. I'm fine with how each of the Kampf and Holmberg lines played, but you're at a disadvantage when playing both since they need their time managed.

 

[rumman]

I don't hate him, but the offensive dry spell is a collective team issue, from this standpoint they all suck and it has to be addressed during offseason. This is not overeacting at all, like I said it has been 8 years.

People whine about having a team that plays the trap, but are perfectly fine watching their offensive power dry up every playoffs, I say lose some of the high priced talent and trap away boys, get some D and a goaltender and forwards who can play all three zones of the ice……..

 

[notbias]

And it’s hard to acquire consistent scoring with little cap space. Need upgrades on D as well. With Knies and McMann, there is some internal promise.

We had 20 million in cap space in the summer.

~ 17 million was spent on Klingberg, Reaves, Bert, Samsanov, and Kampf.

Next year we have a lot of space again and some cheap depth signed, I am curious how this goes.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I said it earlier, but it felt like two 4th lines. I'm fine with how each of the Kampf and Holmberg lines played, but you're at a disadvantage when playing both since they need their time managed.

Gallagbi, let me ask you this, why do the leafs lack this depth

 

[GoonieFace]

They had 20 million in cap space in the offseason, if you can't bring in some depth scoring for that, you shouldn't be a GM.

Show me the list of available players from last years UFA? Bert got 20 goals, but didn’t do much in the playoffs. Unless they are willing to make some bold trades, it will be more of the same

 

[Suntouchable13]

We had 20 million in cap space in the summer.

~ 17 million was spent on Klingberg, Reaves, Bert, Samsanov, and Kampf.

Next year we have a lot of space again and some cheap depth signed, I am curious how this goes.

Kling was a good gamble because our problem is offence in the playoffs, and his puck moving ability could have helped in the playoffs generate more O.

 

[PromisedLand]

Here we go as a template. Lots of cap space to work with:

Xxx Matthews Nylander
Knies xxx xxx
McMann Domi xxx
Holmberg Kampf Jarnkrok

Rielly xxx
Benoit McCabe
Edmundson xxx

Xxx
Woll

I would actually remove Rielly from there he is NOT good enough to be #1 pair IMO.

 

[theTTC]

I am not blaming it on the depth, I am questioning why we went out and ignored scoring depth/D when we've had this issue every year.

hahahahahaha
Bert and Domi earned first line status due to offensive creativity and output. And the Core Fore are solely supposed to be high octane scoring forwards. And "we ignored scoring depth"?

 

[Maple Leaf]

I would actually remove Rielly from there he is NOT good enough to be #1 pair IMO.

WOW 2wheeere you goijng wit this?

 

[Evilhomer]

Sure you could keep Rielly, but why? He brings pretty much nothing to the table, or are you referring to his offensive might?

Mostly I'm referring to his no trade clause.

 

[JKG33]

They had 20 million in cap space in the offseason, if you can't bring in some depth scoring for that, you shouldn't be a GM.

I'm not sure who you had in mind that'd realistically be better than Domi and Bertuzzi.

They also had a defence consisting of a #2, a #4, and a bunch of bottom pair/depth guys and only one NHL goalie. $20m doesn't go far with that many holes

 

[PromisedLand]

No toronto fan can talk to boston fans anymore...

Marner is a bum compare him to bums only

Tavares is the worst captain in leafs history

If it wasn't for the f***ing "Salutegate" that would be 100% true. I;d say he is tied with phaneuf

 

[Superstar]

Rumour is that Dubas is holding the GM spot in Pittsburgh for Pridham.

Pridham would essentially be a puppet GM in Pittsburg if he goes there, with Dubas being the real GM. He's a caps guy, not a GM.

 

[rumman]

Still thinking about that Joel Edmundson chance right after we made it 1-0.

And people want to keep Rielly, any D man can jump into the rush, Mo doesn’t have the market cornered in that regard………

 

[Evilhomer]

hey are you ok, you lost a lot of money

Depends on how you define "a lot". I don't get unless i am completely comfortable losing it all.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

Shame on you Rielly .. I was a fan until you completely misjudged Pasta's speed .. sure Mitch should have slowed him down but you are a freakin D man making too much CAP for da rookie error which cost us series .. as soon as you saw da hard shoot in you have to get on your horse and skate back fast .. you had a 4 step lead but your brain did not work fast enough to recognize da defensive threat .. you should have been 1st to that puck and moved it away from net .. that is enough for me .. sorry but my 1D can't ever play that weak .. time to move on my friend .. back to Vancouver for you

 

[PromisedLand]

WOW 2wheeere you goijng wit this?

- Rielly does not play physical
- He is not a defensive juggernaut
- He doesn't have a good point shot/slapper/wrister
- His skating has declined this season IMO

All Rielly had was his skating; and its declining. He doesn't have any other attribute that you need in a D-man to be successful in the playoffs

 

[rumman]

Mostly I'm referring to his no trade clause.

I think the belief that means your not trade able will be disproved this off season, call this my Homerish prediction …….

 

[57 Years No Cup]

If we pay Marner a penny over 9 million this franchise is done for.

I'll root for Willy, AM and Woll, but the team isn't trying to be serious.

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